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Very, very agree... :)

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:) Anahki, you are obsessed with these ripping clothes,
Enjoy this full female nudes tf, by golly!

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No no, it's not me, it's the other guys I swear! xD.

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New episode tonight, right?

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Well gang.

In episode 3 I'm sorry to inform was almost transformation free, except for a quick hand transformation. I've included the link below.

Besides the lack of transformation. What did you guys think of the episode?

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1a...ation_creation

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Pretty good, the story is getting better.

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Haven't watched the ep yet.

Does this even count as a TF this time? LOL.
Will watch the ep soon and comment further.

-C

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Just a question, does anyone know if the HBO Nordic version is the SyFy one, the Space one, or something different? I am still intrigued about the first TF of the show, really :P.

Moreover, I am very intrigued of what's behind here... : https://vimeo.com/atmospherevfx/albums

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password plz. :)

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I'm fairly certain that's what Anahki's point was, they don't have the password either.

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Cactus, password plz...

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I'd kill for the password buddy, but this is something that won't happen :P. I'm just waiting for episode 5 in 8 days.

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Nobody has the password here. There's probably nothing in it anyway.

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Has anyone just tried messaging the account holder for the password? Couldn't hurt.

UPDATE: I emailed the VFX company and politely requested the password for their FX reels. Let's see how that goes.

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You are probably right. What really amazes me is that a professional company like them were using vimeo, or youtube or something like that to share works with some people (I assume producers or external co-workers).
Anyway, I am sure that they are not going to give the password to anyone. I mean, those are confidential files, containing material that probably has not been aired yet, right?

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I happen to work in the industry and I know a lot of professional folks who use Vimeo, myself included, to upload and share their work privately and securely. It's a great video hosting site that's very Pro friendly (as long as you're one of the paid subscribers).

Side note: Still haven't heard anything from the FX company re: the password. I'm not exactly expecting to get one either. Still, fingers crossed. Nothing ventured, nothing gained, as that one guy stated in the show.

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Anyone watch the ep yet?

-C

LOL why did I think it aired Friday?

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i was gonna say... xD

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I'll check it out but I don't expect to see the so-called "first change" until next week.

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"First Change" is ep 5 i believe

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any word on TF's in the new ep?

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SPOILERS:

There are only a few off camera changes this episode. I think next week is going to be the memorable one for us.

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ugggh waiting a week is gonna kill mee

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The "off camera hell", isn't it? xD. The funniest thing is that in a series, the use of the same FX/prosthetics/make up should make the overall costs lower and lower every time... but well, as you said, in seven days we could get a serious test for the TF matters.

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In the process of watching ep4

Non-TF critique :

World building in this show doesn't make any sense. We are supposed to believe 'The Pack' with less than a dozen members has global influence (and control)? Laughable. As one skeptical reviewer of the book on Amazon put it, they wouldn't be able to control more than New York State (at best!)

Setting up Elena as the only female werewolf looks like A) a romance novel trope, as she is supposed to be the 'unique snowflake heroine' who tames the 'brutal rough man' (Clay) and B) a slap in the face to women in general - so all other women are just 'too weak' eh?

Loved the cheesy voiceover in the basement scene where they showed the 'Pack archive'.


Watching for the TFs at this point.

-C

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Yeah I didn't think this show would be any good either. But it doesn't help that I believe the book series was targeted at women, so of course storyline wise it wouldn't appeal to us.

That's ok. I still have Supernatural and Lost girl to satisfy my fantasy needs.

Any TF's that happen on Bitten I can just watch on this site lol.

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I guess i must be a weirdo..but i am enjoying the show. in other news i think the big initial tf is going to be the next episode! Whether its awesome or not is a different story..personally im leaning toward awesome..but im more forgiving then most.

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The next episode is what I predicted to have the "first change" based off the title (Bitten), and the teaser that's up is a flashback, so that's a good sign.

However, the promo for the episode is all "current", so while it appears the next episode will have a lot of flashback, it will not be all flashback. I could see a scenario where the next episode has it leading up to Elena getting bitten, and saving the change for a future episode. Which is to say, don't freak out if it isn't this episode.

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As for the plot/setting, thanks to Chiaroscuros for putting into words the nagging difficulty I'm having with it. They tried to explain some of that away with vague references to other packs in the last one, but it was forced. And at some point are they going to explain why it's cool for Logan and Pete to have their own lives outside, but they're desperate for Elena to not live in Toronto?

I know the books are basically written chick flicks, but the whole "one female character surrounded by males who worship and love her or want to protect her" and "brooding bad boy being the winner" things are killing the show for me. I really can't believe I'm saying this, but I think Being Human US may be better, and I don't think they plot out that show more than one episode in advance.

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It's been awhile since I since I read the book, but here are some explanations as I remember them.


The Pack doesn't want Elena in Toronto because she's denying the wolf in her, and that will eventually drive her into a berserk killing frenzy when it finally breaks out.

The werewolf gene is sex linked. A baby boy werewolf has to have a male werewolf father while a baby girl werewolf needs to have a werewolf mother. Natural born female werewolves disappeared at some point, so with the difficulty of surviving the infection made getting new ones really, really rare.

The number of werewolves is fairly small, so between modern transport and communications as well as The Pack's numbers they can dominate all the mutts in North America. Werewolves also have long lifespans, which helps The Pack accumulate wealth and influence.

Elena and Clay's relationship I think is actually the opposite of what people are assuming; she doesn't tame the bad boy, he unleashes the bad girl. In the later books she becomes the second scariest Pack enforcer after Clay. The books didn't feel so much like "one female character surrounded by males who worship and love her or want to protect her" as "woman breaks into a society dominated by men and kicks major ass". YMMV of course.

There are still romance elements of course, but much of the time they happen while the characters are wolves. Like in last night's episode when Elena and Clay turned into wolves and ran around, which in the book was totally a make-out scene.

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I'm curious to see what else is in store for this series after the next episode airs because about 80% of all the footage in all of the season promotional trailers have been from these first 5 episodes. Best case scenario is that there is a bit more transformation material they haven't even hinted at yet.

TF interest aside, I'm liking this series.

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And you will continue to wait politely.

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you can watch it here

http://vodlocker.com/kvo72f1wjo74

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Did it air already or is it right now?

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It aired. I just don't want to be the first to spoil it.

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That link takes me to a site full of malware-spamware install stuff :(

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It was meh...

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while not the holy grail we all wanted it to be, it was still pretty good. (: im not dissapointeed

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Interesting - only about 5 seconds more than we saw in the teasers and trailers. Hopefully this isn't the high water mark, but now I seriously wonder. Good content but not head and shoulders above what we saw in ep1.

-C

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I could say I'm disappointed but I'm really not, the closer we got to this my expectations lowered. It wasn't bad.

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Even if the actual TF content on screen is lacking at times, I find that they've been exhibiting a lot of my favorite TF scenarios. Besides, there are still a lot of episodes to go, so there could be some surprises down the road. Maybe even the addition of more female wolves.

Regardless, I've become a fan of the series and I'm looking forward to this series getting picked up again.

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TF clip available

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEbmICDIaLU

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Honestly, there's no reason to believe it's not. After how they handled things in the second episode, where they set up a similar scenario for a tf as the first episode, yet glossed over the tf (only showing the 5 second hand tf), it was obvious they would blow their load on two or three tfs, and that's it. This is supposed to be the "big" transformation, and this is what we got. It honestly started as a great scene, until they decided to just stop showing much of anything, starting with the zoom in on the eyes during the facial transformation (T_T), and not showing the feet actually transforming like they did in the first episode. Just another one in the "It's good, but could have been so much more" file...

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And you all laughed when I said that I wasn't expecting much. I don't let myself get my hopes up, it makes the crushing defeat of disappointment that much easier to bare. :P

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I had low expectations as well, I just tried to keep quiet after the uproar that happened last time people were critical of things.

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Yeah, but in this case I was also confident about the comments done by Ms Vandervoort, so I wrongly assumed that this TF was going to be "the big one". As usually, I was completely wrong and if this scene could be n.1 for anything, it is for "missed opportunity" one.
Anyway, I still suspect that there is some more for this scene that was filmed but was cut for tv release. Yes, this happens all the time, and most of the time we have no chance to ever see it, but from time to time we get nice surprises on DVD. Ehm, I suspect this is not the case, and we get a "that's all folks!" xD.

For the "I like all anyway" people, I am sure that there will be some nice off-screen and hand-face-shoulder TFs to come (<irony>even one behind a semi-transparent window!!! incredibly sexy!!!</irony>).

To end, just with a question: was it THAT difficult to make a TF like Logan's but with her instead?

Note: I have seen some reviews, and what really makes me angry are the comments saying "fortunately we didn't see much of the transformation, so the sensation of reality was clearly reinforcedm in opposition to the cheesy thansformations in the first episode". We got some anti-TF basterds out there too.

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I'm gonna take this as is and not what it could have been. After this scene wasn't in the first episode I kinda figured it was gonna let some people down. I personally wasn't. Was it the epic it could have been. No but I still like it for what it is. Besides ample opportunity to add for my "bitches" project;)

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Well don't forget they always have to worry about those pesky things called budget and ratings.

Any given show is only given a set amount to work with. this show can only use so much cgi as the budget allows for any process. As such, the number of onscreen TF's ARE going to be low, because some of the cgi time has to be used for the dogs themselves.

Ratings is also a factor. While it has a female star my understanding is this book and tv series was geared more towards women, so of course they'd want to garner to them to get the highest ratings. This means a LOT more men shown then women sadly, so you're going to have to expect them.

And lastly: Always keep in mind scifi or any public tv channel televised series will NEVER be meant for us, so there will always be a small level of disappointment from a fetish standpoint. They (series producers) have to keep the all mighty dollars in mind when dealing with ratings, so they have to pander to the widest audiences possible. This means keeping things like violence, nudity, and traumatizing transformations (to none fetishists) at a minimum.

TLDR: Keep in mind TV series aren't made for the fetish crowd and keep expectations low to avoid disappointment.

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I've had this discussion before with other people, and yes, it is true that they don't produce the TF material towards the "fetish guys out there". But that statement gives us so much importance. I mean, almost all of them even don't know that we exist at all. But that is not the fact, I mean, the "fetish factor". What I talk about is the fact that humans are attracted by things like sex, violence, and everything that could be nasty, weird or strange.
The unconscious attraction for the forbidden, for the strange and odd things, is what directors and producers (and the ads team, of course) use to build their trailers and promos, so the people would be attracted, no matter they were "fetishists" or not. Just because of the human nature. And then, of course, when the show is on, everything that could be found distasteful or not suitable for the target audience is reduced to the minimum, to the point that, as we even had in the first TF of the show, some content of the preview would be eliminated. It works this way here, but if you want more examples, you could watch the promo of the second season of being human (includes Erin's TF) or the trailer for 13 hrs, that contains the female werewolf TF even though it is a major spoil of the movie. Coincidence? I think not.

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I've dropped the whole "they're not marketing towards us" line plenty of times myself in this thread. Honestly, it's not really the point right now. The reason I say this is because when this series was still in production, the producers and some of the cast were gushing about how this wasn't just some Twilight-esque drama that panders specifically to the crowd you're mentioning. They pointed out there would be blood, sex, nudity (though this I knew wasn't going to be anything mind-blowing...it's cable), and to a lesser extent, transformations. I'm not saying they were promising us fucking AWIL, but they made a point of saying this was more than some chick show, even if that was the original target audience of the book series. Now, at this point, it seems they oversold themselves, or maybe there's cut footage that will see the light of day on a DVD/Blu-Ray. Who knows?

Budget is the likely culprit here. It seems clear that they are picking and choosing which parts of the transformations to show based on what's cheaper and easier to do. That adds to my belief that they blew their load on that first episode, which showed in how they glossed over the second. Not surprising, but disappointing. If this was a hurdle for them, why not keep one of the two tfs in your pocket from the first episode, and put more effort into the one we just got last night? To be such a key moment (the "first change"), it really felt rushed.

I know how this all goes, expectations-wise. I already went back to reading up on the other three or four projects I'm waiting on after the second episode of this. If we ever get that amazing tf scene, I think it will come from a place you'll least expect it. Or I can just start researching all the techniques and materials it takes to do it myself. (I'm not even being all that sarcastic with that last statement...)

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I feel like it was disappointing mostly because, as mentioned above, there was almost nothing in there that wasn't seen in the previews. If that had been a "fresh" transformation, it would have been considered fairly impressive, by the low standards that are female werewolf transformations. It goes to one of my entertainment pet peeves: Giving away your best stuff (whether it's your best joke, your best action scene, or, in this case, your best special effects) in previews. Just makes the viewer feel like a sucker for actually watching.

Oh, and I'll stop commenting on the quality of the series after this, because that's kind of an opinion thing, but the scene where she's bitten...I hope that was just rushed and not based on the book. "You can't have her" (5 seconds pass) "Ouch!" That may have been the single most ridiculous "infection scene" in the history of this branch of popular entertainment.

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Completely agree with you. It is what happened with the show. And yes, we enjoyed the TF and so on. I even enjoy the series, it follows the booknot exactly but almost, as long as the series had the supervision of Ms Armstrong herself.
To say a couple of words of hope, maybe we could get some other interesting TFs, as well as a not null chance of having some "director's cut" in the DVD. And there will be some other shows in the near future, or that I hope so :). The best of all is that maybe this show, if it becomes popular, could prepare the ground for more female werewolf-related stuff. What do you think?

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Trouble is no matter how many times we drop the "Not for us" line, people in general still allow themselves to believe otherwise.

That's what happened with 50ft Cheerleader. Time and again people were warned its not a fetish movie and to expect a lousy b-grade fest at best, but people were STILL disappointed because they convinced themselves it might beat out Hannah's movie or North's movie in terms of effects and sexiness.

BUT, I will say you have a point about over selling. Because again with Cheerleader, they did that quite well. It's partly why people allowed themselves to forget the "Not for us" line in the first place, and the same thing is happening now with this series.

This is why I try not to watch or read early interviews if I can help it. I'd rather watch for myself and make my own judgements later to avoid let downs.

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I just want a good tail growth. Is that too much to ask?

That said, the show did a lot of build up to this important "first change" and it didn't last long. Not that I wanted more effects, but it seemed half-assed in every regard. Like, she suffers briefly, changes pretty quickly, and boom she's back to normal? I thought this was supposed to be hard to survive for women!

The show's story is still pretty weak, hope this pack vs. pack conflict gets better, otherwise it has little going for it.

The TF we got was pretty decent for what it was, at the end of the day.

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My favorite aspect of this "first change" scene is that they were able to show the shortening of her legs into actual wolf legs. I thought that was an interesting and well done detail we don't normally get to see. I mean even AWIL didn't even provide that detail given that it was an unrealistic monster wolf to begin with. Bitten has been giving us one interesting detail of the change per TF scene, so maybe by the end of this season we'll see a tail growth. *fingers crossed*

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How people feel about tail growth on this board, I feel that way about facial changes/muzzle growth. I can't think of one female transformation that had a really, really good muzzle growth in it. This past episode really let me down, because they had every chance to do that, and just zoomed in super close to her face, not showing anything.

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Well they kinda showed a bit of muzzle growth with Logan's character in episode 1. That kinda leads me to believe they won't revisit that detail, which is a real shame. I'm a big fan of the muzzle growths.
(I was surprised they showed one during the Season 2 premiere of Being Human.)

One of the few aspects they haven't addressed is the tail. I'd even enjoy it if they addressed that during the scene where she changes in the bathroom behind the frosted glass (if indeed that is what's happening in that scene).

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TF was okay, but I also would have loved a nice muzzle & tail growth shot.

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Well, this is just my opinion, but maybe we are not going to see her face change, just because a "beauty reason". My theory is that the actress wanted her face dissociated from the werewolf, so the farthest they will go with that is that second TF where we saw her face with pointed teeth. And that's all.
About the tail... nope, just because it would imply to have a look at her bare naked bottom before the total transformation. Her ass just only will (and has been) appear seconds (or planes) away enough for the same reason we won't have her face changing.
Yes, I know that this could be a extremely twisted reason, but think about it: Miss Vandervoort is using this series to jump into better jobs (perfectly coherent), and being almost 30, she hasn't been very success (she has had just minor roles), but she still "has an image to keep" for future projects.

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There's a clear ass shot right after her revert. They don't have to show her butt from behind to show even a brief tail growth. I don't think "having an image to keep" is relevant, given all that we've seen already.