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Check out the new Netflix series The Order. I've only watched the first couple of episodes but there is some male werewolf process that's not bad. I'm waiting to see the female werewolf character change but so far no luck... The show itself is meh, but there's at least some chance of a female tf so I'll stick around for a few more episodes :)

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I actually managed to dig up "Blue Moon" if it's the one by Martyn Pick. I don't remember where I found it or how I watched it, but the TF in it is nonexistent. You see everything in the trailer where the woman falls to all fours, there aren't even off-screen sound effects or anything like that while she's changing. Focus shifts to them being stalked and everything about her change is implied.

A shame too, because the girl was gorgeous and the cleavage scene when she falls over was very promising.

EDIT: Here's a link! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXEOp9Yg5V8

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So, I know this kind of question usually gets sent to the request thread, but since we're talking about things that finally turn up.... Did anyone ever find 'Howl of a Good Time'?

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Yep, I am also doing some scouting work from time to time. Vimeo is a good place to have a look at, but as you can see, the budget constraints are a big issue that directly make the directors to discard TFs or reduce them to the minimum.
To add something useful, the guy who was teasing a movie that was going to be named "plain sight" is currently showing some teasing images (soulmarch in Deviantart) of what he wants to do for the movie (I don't know with a different name). It seems to be that the bugdet will be also small but at least he will try something. Don't expect too much, though.

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1. No, the male process is bad. Low budget CGI of a couple body parts.
2. There are no female werewolf TFs.
3. The show is a thoroughly wasted opportunity for TFs of any kind.

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So, our "everyday" werewolf show, isn't it?:D:D

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well, that sucks.

I suppose my expectations are so low for TV show TF that I thought the ones in the first couple of episodes could be far worse...

It really sucks if there is no female werewolf TF since they have such a small "pack".

Guess I won't bother with the rest of the episodes since it wasn't very interesting to begin with... :mad:

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Yep. You can notice that in almost every TV with werewolves the females get transformed less, off camera, and they are also killed more frequently than their male counterparts. And it is not "randomly" done... my theory is that it is easier to make male TFs, they need less work, you can show more skin without enraging the censors, the actresses usually don't want their images get "damaged" or "bestialized", and the everyday watcher is more accoustomed to male werewolves (look, that big bearded guy with the lumberjack shirt, I bet that he's the beast). Lots of reasons to have less female werewolf TFs...

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It may or may not be true but IMDB says Howl of good time is part of the anthology charlotte on amazon prime..whether it is or if its any good remains to be seen but i shall investigate further

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i can confirm it is a complete waste..carry on..atleast it didnt cost me anything :P

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Well, it wasn't amazing, but I wouldn't call it a complete waste. Whichever, thank you so much for finding... I'd only been looking for about three years.

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Anyone have a link to Howl of a Good Time? I wanna see if it's better than Betsy.

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Oh, I just watched it on amazon. It's not worth a damn. It's part of a collection of super low budget, poorly written shorts that came out a few years ago. Betsy was at least a film unto itself and not a 5 minute segment of an overall terrible collection. Betsy also had nudity, and that one scene where she rips her shirt open. But this other thing... no. Halloween costumes and a ridiculous 'twist ending' .

Everything that's turned up lately has been pretty bad. Might be time to find some normal stuff, cuz this werewolf stuff just ain't gettin' any better I tells ya.

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Yeah there’s been a drought for years, then people like missa came along and helped a bit but a quality mainstream TF has been almost non existent For a while

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Speaking of mainstream TF’s, what do you guys expect to see in the new Wonder Woman sequel? Set clips show Kristen Wiig (the cheetah) wearing everyday clothes jumping across buildings. I think her TF will be gradual throughout the movie. The director says she will have a tail.

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can you link the article or tweet or whatever that says she will?

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To cheer up some folks here, and help alleviate the current female-werewolf drought we’re all experiencing, I recently discovered there’s a good chance the original NSFW “Betsy” teaser trailer is included in the horror anthology sequel “60 Seconds 2 Die (60 Seconds to Die 2),” which is currently available on Amazon Prime. I haven’t seen either movie, but apparently, this anthology series features horror shorts with 1-minute countdowns to the death scene. According to IMDb, the original actress who was supposed to play Betsy in the movie plays Betsy in THIS movie during the segment “Room 125,” which was the room number in the teaser trailer I saw. Also, the director of “Betsy” directed this short. It would make sense that this would be the teaser I saw since it was also only a minute long. (Again, this anthology features 1-minute death scenes; hence the title “60 Seconds to Die.”)

For those who don’t know, the original version of “Betsy” was going to be an extremely erotic take on the female werewolf. Betsy was originally a prostitute who offed her clients as a werewolf, and the movie was going to feature multiple, full-body transformations with graphic nudity, but then the original actress left for reasons I’m not going to disclose here, and her replacement, Kelci C. Magel, was less willing to show full nudity, so the script had to be rewritten. (Even after I threw money at this project, the most she was willing to do was remove her shirt.) Also, because Kelci lived in California and the film shot in Ohio, they spent a lot of money flying her back and forth (the original actress was local), so this left the production less money for the transformation special effects and also less time to film the TF scene, which is why the final result looks so rushed and incomplete (not to mention disappointing).

Because I was a producer on “Betsy,” I was able to see the original NSFW teaser trailer. For those who haven’t read my description before, I’m copying it below:

“It begins with a shot of Betsy on the floor of a motel room. She’s lying on her side, breathing heavily, and completely nude. Interestingly, the camera’s POV is partially obscured by an open door, almost as if we’re witnessing something we’re not supposed to see. Then we see the full moon rise, and it cuts back to Betsy on the floor. She rolls over on her back, grimacing, and begins feeling herself up and down. It appears she already knows she’s a werewolf (she isn’t shocked at what’s happening) and is preparing her body for the change. Another shot of the moon getting higher in the sky, and we’re back in the motel with Betsy on her side again, panting heavily. She moans and raises her rear in the air, and then we hear the sounds of her transformation. Cut to her front as she whips her hair around and reveals growing fangs. Then she grabs the countertop in front of her with one hand, and her nails begin to grow into claws. Cut to a shot outside of a guy entering the motel. (I’m assuming he’s one of her Johns.) He finds Betsy’s motel room and enters it, and we see Betsy’s head in the foreground but covered in shadow. She then opens her eyes, and they are shining yellow. Then she growls and quickly turns around to attack him, and we get the title card. That’s it. The whole scene is about 1 minute long. Even though Betsy only has fangs, claws, and yellow eyes in this scene, the writer-director stressed that it’s not the final look of the werewolf but one of the incremental stages.”

Full disclosure: I no longer have the teaser because it was on a password-protected Vimeo link that expired after 2 weeks. I don’t have Amazon Prime, so for anyone who does, feel free to check out the movie and let us know if the original “Betsy” teaser is in there. It’s also possible the version included in “60 Seconds 2 Die” is the SFW version (there were two versions filmed, but I only saw the NSFW one), but since this movie is being advertised as “hardcore grindhouse exploitation,” it would make sense they included the NSFW one.


TLDR: It’s possible the NSFW original “Betsy” teaser trailer is included in the movie “60 Seconds 2 Die (60 Seconds to Die 2)” on Amazon Prime. For those who have access, please check it out and let us know if that’s true. Thanks.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/deta...ref=atv_dl_rdr

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I rented it, she just stabs the guy she is having sex with in room 125.

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Damn. Okay, thanks for taking the plunge for us.

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Talk to your boys about releasing the teaser on some clips4sale type site?

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They’re not “my boys.” I was simply an Indiegogo contributor who went above and beyond what was expected of the investors, based on what I was promised. Because what was promised was clearly not delivered (namely, a detailed TF with process), we had a semi-falling out, and I haven’t spoken to them since the film was released. The semi-bright news is that I know the writer-director wants to do a sequel to “Betsy” that is more in-line with his original vision, but that would include getting the original actress back. I can’t go into why she left the project in the first place, but needless to say, it will be tricky bringing her back onboard for the sequel. If by some stroke of luck that happens, they already have at least two TFs in the can (I only saw the one I already mentioned), so my hope is that the writer-director is saving this material for a future project. Anyway, if I was him, I wouldn’t want all that work to go to waste, and the fact that he didn’t include it in the “60 Seconds 2 Die” horror anthology like I thought he would gives me some hope that he IS saving his good stuff for his own film. The bad news is that he’s got at least two more movies that are coming out before this happens: “Don’t F&*k in the Woods 2” and “Stranded,” which was just announced.

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Among The Shadows (the lindsay lohan werewolf movie) has nothing to offer if it hasnt been already reported. Public service announcement

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99.99% expected, but thank you, you have saved our time. This is real public service :).

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You got a source on that?

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I dunno if anybody has posted this or not, but if it has been, feel free to disregard. But Were-World is currently in the process of a redux of their "A girl named Sue" comic werewolf transformation. Currently there are 19 pages and it's probably the best drawn werewolf transformation i've ever seen.

https://www.deviantart.com/were-world

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I usually promote his work in this forum, as some people here (me included) are real fans of his work. He's got a Patreon also where you could find some extra stuff :D.

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I love that she's Asian. It's unusual to have another ethnicity. And unlike even pro artists, she looks consistently Asian and not like a white girl with dark hair and an Asian name.

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Hey guys. I just shot a "werewolf tease clip that is now up on TMC. It's quick and simple with no practical effects but there is a preview trailer that you can check out to see if it's your cup of tea.
I am hoping to get decent sales out of this one, because that means that I could then justify buying props and effects to do a true werewolf TF clip. With ears, teeth, claws, fur etc.

https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca88...KB4mkqGSgwnWlw

you can purchase in the index here:

https://vidown.com/cgi/store2.pl?sit...rmadeclips.com

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Not my style... but im going to support because if you start a new wave of werewolf transformations videos with fur, claws... i will be very satisfied. Cheers.

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Thanks for the support! Much appreciated.

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Does anyone have a download link to the full version of this? https://vimeo.com/189447560
It looks promising.

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https://www.facebook.com/thehuntedshortfilm/

That's a link to the official Facebook for it. Looks like the film is still doing the festival circuit. Don't get too excited though, her final werewolf form looks like this:

https://scontent.ffcm1-2.fna.fbcdn.n...fc&oe=5D09F05A

So the transformation probably isn't much to write home about.

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Actually it's not bad for what it is.... but she could be turning into anything... a hag, a troll... Really I don't get these "indie" werewolf productions that often center female transformations and always fail utterly to deliver. The cheesiest horrors of the 40s, 50s and 60s could do werewolves that were more convincing... and the simplest of "dissolve" transformation effects could be done in computer today... werewolves involve some degree of labor intensive effort. Why even bother?

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lol she looks like crabby old lady! hope she grows a tail in here XD

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Looks like another fine example of that modern horror makeup artists don't seem to have any concept of canine anatomy when making werewolves, so far this year we have had a goat/lizard werewolf, this russian hag look, and a couple of glued on wig hair for sideburn looks. Even watching face-off reruns those contestants with only a few hours to design and apply did better work

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Preach. I’ve been “in the game” awhile now, and I can’t tell you how many times an independent werewolf movie claimed they ran out of time and/or money for the transformation scene. IMO, if you couldn’t properly film at least a semi-decent TF scene in your werewolf movie, then you probably shouldn’t have bothered to make a werewolf movie.

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I believe also that the talent and will to take the time to learn practical effects makeup is a lost art. A lot of people will find it too time consuming to sit down and sculpt out busts and props for 8-10 hours when instead it just takes a couple of mouse clicks and a few hours time to do everything CGI.

I've always loved Werewolf and monster movies since I was a kid. My parents back when I was around 5 years old used to have night jobs cleaning movie theaters and they would take me because they couldn't afford a sitter. I got to watch all the classic horror movies in the theater where there was no CGI, all practical effects. Looking back, if I could choose to restart life, I might have gone down the Rick Baker career line. But alas...I suck at drawing and have no patience lol.

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yea, the tf scene is the money shot of the movie, if one scene should look good then it's this. e.g awol have just two good scenes, the tf one and the scene on the street at the end and enything else are just a bunch of 08/15 characters with a choppy ending and a comedic zombie friends who is just there to fill a plot hole (without him the main character would think that he is just a sleepwalker) but precisely because of this two scene we remember it still today... or without them the movie were just as lame like every other werewolf movie of today.

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Guess that most horror movie writers and directors have no access to furaffinity or deviant art, there are over a dozen artists on there that I can image would love to get paid to consult on a movie, artists like liminalbean, were world, fullmoonmaster to name a few that have literally drawn entire tf sequences. All the makeup artist /fx person has to do is copy it off the image

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I imagine if they know about those sites at all its as jokes about how they're full of Sonic the Hedgehog porn. Doubtful they would ever want to have to admit in an interview that any of the design inspiration came from fetishists.

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https://youtu.be/9ccTqM6TiHw actually pretty good. From a Dc show legends of tomorroq

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That was actually really excellent. Probably the best female werewolf transformation i've personally seen on TV since the Being Human ones. Although the final look of the werewolf was a little less to be desired. Combine that with the actress being a little cutie and it's a pretty well done scene.

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Perhaps we have seen a different scene, because I've just seen some typical cgi morphing, minimum rippage and a final ugly trogodyte form instead of a threatening beast. Yes, the girl is cute, and we all have something for the asian girls, but it is not enough for considering this good. On the contrary, in mainstream productions I expect much more than this... if this had been done by some near-to-zero-budget guys, I've had praised it for being over the top (considering that, I mean), but in this case is pretty underwhelming.
After saying this, and anyway, I still encourage you to keep on searching stuff (as I try to do too), and say thank you for the finding :).

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To each their own. I'd rather see this any day than having it be a poof or off screen transformation though.

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nice find! its not great but its alot better then alot of stuff we see

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A plus is that she's a season regular and we will be getting a good bit of other material on her at least.

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I would like to see some behind the scenes makeup at the least. Thought it was decent

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better than usual at least

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Here to help :)

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Does anyone happen to know where I can find a full version of this? I think it used to be on Vimeo before getting removed. Maybe an Openload link? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSHFd1D5DaQ

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It was called ‘M is for Moon’. It was part of a series I think. It was taken down by the content owner for their own good reasons.

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Your not missing much

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Did anyone happen to save it? I at least wanna check it out.

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https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-g...w?usp=drivesdk

You’re in luck!

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Okay, yeah. Not very exciting. What about this? Does anyone have this? https://vimeo.com/154990999

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I've followed it some time (years) ago. It seem that the project went directly to developments' hell, if I'm not mistaken... I've forgotten it completely :P

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Anyone happen to know about this? It looks like its more about symbolism than an actual TF, but looks promising. If there's a full version and anyone's downloaded it, send me the link. https://vimeo.com/98478206

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Yep, I have been following it since its "release", but the truth is that it was unreleased. The (old) news is that the short participated in a few festivals and disappeared afterwards.
I haven't seen it, but it could be probably be as you say: no TF, or abysmal effects reduced to fake hair, mask/makeup and some long naiis, our usual crap around here :P.
You can try to contact the producers if you are interested, I don't know.

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Some stories ARE better left untold.

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I find some random clips on twitter with some processing!
The twitter is from an artist named temmie who is better know as the artist for undertale and deltarune! These videos are base on an character from her Rpgmaker game: Escaped Chasm.

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