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:) Bigwigs, you have finished discussing the trivialities, such as children?

What happened to Anthony Brownrigg, with his Big Bad She-wolf Megan and her transformation, naked under the moon? We're still waiting for his creatures, but he seems to have blatantly escaped into the bush.

P.S.
Joe Hisaishi you are the best composer, obviously after the big Morricone...
This is for you guys...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVY1...FE6F7DA0E09083 : D

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Guys, someone to do some short film in AAWIL or The Dark (Nyle Cavazos) style, with a big bad female werewolf, maybe an hot ebony or black exotic girl or woman or not take it anymore ... :cool:

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Try not to derail the thread with.. whatever that was.

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Honestly i don't care what people think or what they predict, and according to the few private messages i got after my post i assume that's not just me. Appearently some forums here are bare because people got tired of the never-happy voices.
Also i don't know why you seem to take it personal TF-Viewer, it's not. I'm talking to everybody who can't be positive about what we got and might get in the future.

You never sounded disappointed with what the show had to offer in the first episodes, do you now? Rather, the negative comments i pointed at are mostly all these predictions, so yes precisely episodes that haven't aired. I used the word "complaints" because that's exactly what it sounds like in the end. And i don't exaggerate, just read back at how many negative predictions have been made about this show, especially by Anahki... I think we are all grown-up enough to know what to expect or not, and how high we can get our hopes.

Once again, i didn't tell you to stop complaining (i'm not your mother :p ). It's fine to express your disappointment, as long as you remember it's only a louder voice among others. So voice it if you like, but we don't really need the continuously negative input. (you're not our father ;) )

I'll just quote your own words earlier in this thread, which sounded very wise:

I feel exactly like that about predictions.
It's like commenting a sports game before it was even played. Even if you may be right in the end. If there's only negative predictions to be read (which is really the case here) it kind of shapes a negative aura around the show, which i don't think is what you guys aim.


That being said, i look forward for the next episode, and her possible change *under* a car (changing inside would be stupid since we've never seen a wolf open a car door to jump out yet ^^ though that could lead to interesting developments if she were caught like that).

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Or, you could get your panties out of a wad, and stop caring about whether or not people are critical of the show. Let them have their discussions on how they view things, and offer your opinion as well. That's what this board is here for. To be honest, your post just read as, "You guys suck for being so negative, but I don't have a problem if you want to complain, but it really sucks when you complain, but you can complain if you want to." If you like the show, here's a pat on the back. Offer up your opinion and leave it at that. Those who are not as happy with the show, same goes to you.

You want to know why the forum is largely bare? Because there is barely any damn new content out there. Simple as that. So when a show comes along that has the potential for bringing new content to the table, and it underperforms the potential people think it has, then there's a strong possibility that those people are going to be disappointed. That's where we are now. Many people feel the show underperformed, while some feel like the tfs we got are perfectly fine. It's cool to be on either side at the end of the day, and post about it. What's not cool is to come down on people for having those opinions (positive or negative)

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You are right about everything Thrillerboy, except i don't think you get my rant.

Maybe i can't speak English too well...
First, my rant is not limited to this show. It's a general attitude that has been going on for years and dulled this community into a never-happy aura, which it is not despite the same voices always being heard. Draw a TF picture, first thing you hear is "turn this into a sequence!" ; film a show with TF content, first thing you hear is "we won't get much!". Same thing.
Second, even if i didn't like this particular show, i'd still get tired of those who are always negative. They suck, i DO have a problem with that, but i am nobody to tell them to stop so i logically don't. Instead i try to make them conscious of their buzzing, hoping this can help make another voice heard for once. Read my post again.

Look at my first post on this page. I didn't come down on anybody, just said they were just making noise talking about things that haven't aired yet. Then i gave my opinion, and i got assaulted for not letting them be negative, which i did not if you read again. Awesome one-way rules. Should i should just let them make noise and say nothing, like most people who read this forum already do? In the end i will and they will talk to themselves. Oh wait, they already do.

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if you just Look TF_Viewer has always got something to say in every kind of flare up, opinions are like assholes, everyone has got one. I tend to not get involved too much because its a frekin fetish board and I appreciate anything anyone posts whether crap or no or even furry doesnt need "process". I chimed in now to stick up for you Altair cause I'm a fan of your work, please post some more :D

Back on Bitten topic, yeah I'll be happy for anything but not expecing much and dont really care either what we get

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So... I'm not the only one who can be happy for the content that's been on the show? For once it was said what oughta be said. I'm glad, but really I don't expect people to learn. Yes, it's negative but for a community that always seems to be starving for content and at times almost seemed desperate to me, it's not a wholly grateful one.

In any case, what they've done considering limits, content, context, and even visuals it's pretty fucking great. One of the best things in a long time with any focus on the event of changing into something. Come on... come on. Where are the dreamers if you wanna see the best stuff? It's already coming out and is there to see. People trying to make better movies and scenes on their own.

I wanted to make my visions come to life somehow. Regardless of how badly I treat myself when it comes to art I know a big part of why I bother to explore, express and share my stuff (hell, even sell my fucking time), it's what I set out to do. Honestly whether it comes to this show or anything else, if this is what the creators have to look forward to, then that's pretty shabby.

Enjoy it. Enjoy the fantasy. Enjoy the expression of the fantasy. I could outfight anybody about this, but frankly it's not worth the time. Hell, it's fine as long as nobody's stepping on toes. Because if that's what ends up happening then that's when things are really bad.

Urg, transformation in show good, urg... y'bastards.

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I'm sorry I even said anything. I'm not going to comment on anything anymore.

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No need for that. You were not at the core of all remarks made even though you were responded to. There were just other matters that came up and it's all about a discussion. No real need to clam up for good.

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Wow this weeks episode had a tf so awesome it left people speechless..or it was nothing..I'm leaning toward nothing:P

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It wasn't nothing. I can't speak for everyone's interests, but it certainly surpassed my all of my expectations.

I don't want to spoil it for others, but this might quiet some of the vocal haters in this thread. It's good to see that the FX budget was used up entirely before this first season was finished.

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wow, really? do i have to download the entire episode or is there a clip somewhere?

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Omg I gotta see this!

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I don't know about surpassing all of *my* expectations but there were two partial tfs. Better than what we've been getting lately! :)

-C

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Note, spoiler:

So basically they have decided not to follow the book to show just the beginning of the TF and nothing more. Funny, really funny. I mean, in the book she transforms there, but here the have made it "as we never saw it before". Yes, technically she wasn't able to stop her TF, and now she can, so this is new. It is like the guy that bought a "picture" of a XBOX, just the same.
Btw, there is the other one... ok, but with a bit of TF it could have been expectacular ;).

End of spoiler.

Needless to say, I enjoyed the show, and I'd like to watch a second season :).

What I really want to see out there is more artwork material inspired on the show, and I am thinking about deviantart, there is almost nothing save for the occasional pictures of clay-elena thing. What do you think?

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Well u might be seeing some commissions from me that involve Elena directly or indirectly soon,so that might be something. Sadly I think it's unlikely we will get a 2nd season:( hope I'm wrong

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Oh, that will be fantastic! I am sure that we will be informed... ;).
About the second season, I fear that the numbers are not high enough for a renovation, and what is worse, I suspect that even though they tried with a second one, they would not adapt the second book, as long as its tone is different than this (I mean, Stolen is by some sense a "Prison Break" with supernatural elements).

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The tfs this episode were solid, but don't set your expectations super high. The second one isn't really a tf, rather than a one-shot mid transformation. That one could have done with a little bit of process starting the change, then following up with what they already had. It's more than the big fat nothing they'd been giving us the past few episodes, but again, nothing mind-blowing (Though I was surprised that they showed that second one, compared to Elena's earlier transformations in past episodes.)

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You're right. My theory is that the actress (Eve Harlow) had less concerns about having that "appealing" on the middle form. Yep, I also feel that there is something missing, and a bit of process could have been incredible, or at least her undressing-screams-small initial FX, even without nudity or else. I assume that this moment is what they were promoting in the SyFy page. Definitely I liked it. Not to "enjoy", but a bit scary to watch... like our lovely good ol' horror movies from the 80's.

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Anyone have any clips of the episode?

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I second that notion of insatiable curiosity. ^_^ Not to be a lUrk..

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Kinda curious that 'erostransform' on dailymotion put up clips from ep 1-3 but nothing since then. If he's on this site, please put up more! :)

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I'll see what I can do.

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1. Download Holablocker for Firefox (or whichever browser you use)
2. Set it to Canada
3. Stream the episode straight from: www.space.ca
4. Enjoy!

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Probably because John Fawcett directed (he's a fan of tails), there's an offscreen tail growth in the episode for the deformed werewolf woman, right near the end. If that doesn't "count," I simply mean that she has a tail. Better than nothing, right?

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Here they are. Like anyone else said, don't get your expectations too high. There is no muzzle TF and no on-screen tail growth. But if you just love to see women halfway transformed, like me, then you might like it. :p


http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1f...tf1_shortfilms
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1f...tf2_shortfilms

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My apologies gang. I will start posting the transformations again. Real life has kept me busy.

Please stand by.

Erostransform

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The one at the end in very unappealing, she's pretty much being ripped apart and is dying.

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WuschelWolf,

And to think she was sooooo close to ripping out of at least the back of her top... Kudos for the increasing heart beat sound effect and how unwanted they portrayed (Elena) trying to fight the change. Much obliged WW. It's better than the second one, or nothing I suppose. Lol. Also a shame she didn't fully transform and destroy said outfit, but then again I am not familiar with the literature source material.

Imagine if the producers had worked in some even minor clothes rippage to her under-junk car change... This forum would have howled at the moon. ^_* Seeing her expanding and stretching her clothing during a full change, bursting out of it, brings to mind the old transformations of The Incredible Hulk 80s TV series. ;)

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Non-TF thought : Anyone else think Kane is alive somehow? My assumption was that Clay castrated him. If that wasn't the showrunners intent, the way that scene ended was strange.

Best,
-C

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Yeah the second one doesn't even count as a transformation in terms of process. I didn't like it all but the car transformation was done very well and her fighting the change was a nice touch. I don't understand why a lot of people liked the second one tho I thought it was aweful and no transformation was shown. I was thinking she was gonna turn into a werewolf not a were retard lol

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Well, while there was no actual process shown during the second TF, IMO it was somehow interesting to see a woman stuck "inbetween" two forms. Not quite wolf, but not quite human either. While not showing the actual process, it at least gave you the impression, that she was in mid-transformation (until she supposedly died, unfortunately).

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Personally, I think that it could serve as an inspiration to make some interesting artwork... and it is also a subtle reminder that there are many times when the FX guys have more to offer than what is usually shown in movies and series.

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I like the second transformation for two reasons: the first is the inclusion of a tail (thank John Fawcett for that one).

The second reason is that we now know what Elena avoided, and another clue as to why she may be a special case (aided by the fact that she is the only werewolf to ever suppress the change). The story would be finally starting to move somewhere, if only the rest of the writing was stronger.

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My biggest problem is that they really didn't make enough of a deal of her first change. It was kinda like "Ow, this hurts", "Deal with it, or you'll die", "Ow again", and it was over. I have no idea how the book described it, but the scene (ignoring the tf parts, talking strictly storywise) was underwhelming to be depicting something that was so dangerous to Elena.

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I suspect (and this is just a personal opinion) that both the director and the FX guys had in mind something a bit more expectacular, or at least something similar to what we saw in the first episode with Logan's TF. Unfortunately, Ms Vandervoort is a definitely nudity dodger, and maybe it made impossible to show certain camera angles in which the body double (the cute Kristen Pizycki) would have been quite obvious. It's a nice theory, isn't it?

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That was my problem, too, which is why I think they're trying to make up for it through other elements of the story.

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I just assumed that since we were in the lair of the bad guys that the tension of the scene was cut by how big of a sociopath Velcro is.

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I'm pretty sure they added the character of the woman who dies mid-TF in order to illustrate what Elena avoided. I don't recall her being in the book, in fact I think that entire chapter was very different.

In the book there's no abandoned factory, it takes place in a parking garage, and the transformation completes, tearing all her clothes off in the process. I don't know why the huge change in scenery or the huge jump to making it a partial TF that she wills to stop and reverse. In the book it's not a huge deal to reverse a transformation once it's started, she lets it finish because it would take longer to go back than forward because she'd crossed the halfway point.

From all the differences I'm thinking it will very soon have nothing to do with the book continuity, and way well skip ahead to elements of later books. The entire "Stolen" book might be compressed down to two episodes and finish the series at this rate.

There were only like three clothed transformations in the series, and it looks like they're not going to be doing them. Maybe it was an issue with the effects, tearing clothes is more a practical effect traditionally and they're going heavy on CG for that. I know tearing clothes can easily be done with CG but maybe they don't know how or didn't think they could so they change the whole story around that limitation... I dunno. I guess I'm just saying that I'd wish they had stuck closer to the source material.

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There's a difference between sticking to the source material and making an adaptation. If people want the source material THAT bad, that's why the source material itself exists. I don't think sticking to the source material would have saved the show in this particular case. Based on what I've read, what I've heard, and what you guys have described, the book sounds equally bad as the show.

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Nah, the books aren't bad.

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The first book wasn't bad, bit middle of road but good take on the concept.

As for the series, it seems to be taking the Dexter adaption route, first season reasonable based on the first book with lots expansion and changes to make it "more suitable for tv" before things really get different.

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I've read bits of the books, and I definitely didn't like the style in which the books are written. But I must also say that I enjoyed the content of them, so I could recommend to have a look.
About comprising Stolen into two or three episodes, it could be a good idea, but I'd also suggest that they didn't involve other "species" much in the story... for me the show works because there aren't annoying teenage look-a-like bloodsuckers, pseudo indian native shamans or ridiculous eastern demons (to name some of them). I mean, I prefer a werewolf show with werewolves in the front line.

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So, any Tf in the last episode?

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I'm personally sick of the whole "pack vs. pack" premise. The only reason Bitten gets away with it is because the source material was written before said premise became a cliche.

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Is it really a cliche yet? I'm not sure there's been enough of those done for it to be over used. Also I don't think the "mutts" even count as their own pack.

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Yep, it's more like a group of "shared interests" with no cohexion. It fact, things for Santos are getting more and more out of hand.
And about clichés, maybe the "wolfish" werewolves are becoming the mode from the last ten years, "thanks" to the success of series like True Blood or Vampire Chronicles. The tendancy I see these last years is to go towards "semi-werewolves" (read: fangs, claws and color lenses) to make a werewolf show at least as cheap as your everyday vampire soap opera, to the consequent damage to the image of our lovely good old werewolves (Howling and AWIL, you know).

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Sadly no process content in the 10th episode, but the plot thickens and it was overall a good episode to watch. ;)

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i thought the season was over. haha. how many more episodes are left?

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Three episodes. If they follow the book, there should be two TFs left, one in the next episode and another one in the last episode. I assume that one of them corresponds to the two scenes we saw in the trailer (one starting the aching and another one behind a semi-traslucent crystal). I still have some hopes on the "last one", as long as this will be the climax of the series, but it could perfectly happen exactly the same as the "hemlock grove TF fiasco" in its last episode :P.

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Before you ask this week, the resume:
1) Elena transforms into wolf. Off camera (you know, initial aching and blazer off, that's all)
2) Elena transforms back to human. The scene behind the opaque crystal was, in fact, this revert back to human... then the usual butt shot of her body double before dressing up.

As I previously said, I don't expect a TF in the next episode. There will be one in the final episode, but it can be solved off camera too. And about the Amber photos that circulated over internet, they were probably misplaced and corresponded to the episode Vengeance, so she is more than probably dead.

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Any videos of the transformation of this episode?

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As I said, no TFs to show... unless you'd like to see a blurry shadow behind an opaque crystal.

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At this point I'll take anything lol

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I'm bummed that there's only one more episode. Still no word yet on whether or not it's getting renewed. I hope it does. Since we're losing Being Human, I'd like to have at least one werewolf show on the air.

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I'd rather have a good werewolf show, but I won't be picky.

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There is something that intrigues me. Well, you all know that Freeborn is still "waiting" approval in L.A. (as it is posted in its Facebook page). Would all these cancellations give "free slot" to the show, or would the potential producers recoil as long as they consider that the show will not be successful?

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Non-TF critique : Cue my previous point : Wow. Multiple instances in this ep showing these werewolves have no sense of smell unless the plot calls for it. Why do these "people" keep getting snuck up upon and having to see things first like normal humans? Lazy writers.

Also, WTF - How are we supposed to buy Santos as a "leader of men"? He's a colossal whiny douche with an unimpressive physique. I don't get it.

Partway through watching this ep.

Edit : No TF this episode. Single finger to clawed finger doesn't count in my book.

-C

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ummm, good luck with that. I hope i have to eat my words but good luck to all you people who donated to indi-gogo for any sort of commissioned TF scene. I don't want to be mean but this is the same guy who was trying to sell his songs for $2 to keep the electricity on, I hope he comes through though. Only then will I shell out any $$ for a finished product, the same way I only buy missa clips or loco comics, when there is a preview. I'm waiting for this clown chick too whose gonna try a cat video, I'm happy to buy it but not till I see something first...