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Mikhail
Since y'all are too chicken and barricated yourselves with radically left-wing ideology to even bother, a person in the CYOC forums had the liberty to give me his collection of Mikhail artwork
Here's my Photobucket of his stuff Let your left-wing ideological mouths drop and drool, starting...now! |
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Bit of a sausage party in there, no?
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True, I saw maybe 4 ladies in 6 pages of pictures.
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"radically left-wing ideology" Holy Sh*t Glen Beck is CyberFox!!
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Forget Glenn Beck, we are treading in Ron Paul territory now.
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Radical left wing ideology? What? Someone needs to fill me in on the backstory here, because I have no idea what's going on.
In the meantime, I'll guess: it seems that Mikhail took down his artwork and people on this forum thought it was unethical to distribute it without his permission. If so, it seems like basic decency to me - something that I'd expect most left or right wingers to agree on. |
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Its... crap. Any generic search on furaffinity gives you 90% better art than that.
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@CyberFox: Would you post the zip here please? I LOVE mikhails art. :) |
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The problem here is your posting in the wrong category, since the majority of the gallery is male Tfs it belongs in the Everything Else category where tfs that don't fit the main theme of the forum go. That Theme again is Transformation of Females, divided into sub categories. the Everything Else category was added so any tf art that didn't fit one of the sub categories or the main theme could be posted.
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We miss his work, We don't want them fade into obscurity DEAL WITH IT! |
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This brings up the whole issue of "If an artist publishes their work (or in this case, puts it on an online gallery), is the work still theirs? Legally it is, but they no longer have free rein over it if they want to remove it. Once something's been put out there for copying (or in this case, saving), somebody's going to hold on to it, and it's unlikely to completely vanish.
In addition, even in the case of the most respected artists, their opinion doesn't necessarily match that of the public. Moreover, one person's trash is another person's treasure: the artist may hate a piece, but the public may love it. Who's to say which viewpoint is right? Now, with Mikhail's work: some people obviously like his stuff. It seems a shame to deprive them of it. It's one thing to remove your work and not want it to be redistributed - but trying to enforce that is not only impractical, it's unfair to those who enjoy it. I mean, it'd been AGES since I saw that transforming rat woman! |
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Actually Seadog it's ONLY impractical, it's fully fair that a artist decides to remove copy righted work for him to expect that it will be removed and not distributed. It is not how ever practical to the artist to expect that the removal will result in the art not being posted or distributed. The question of the moment, does Mikhail object to his art being posted in other places?
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Even though it was great to see some TFs that I never saw before made by this guy and even see most of them again. It's still pretty wrong to do that with someone's art without their permission (like what we have been doing with comics lately) especially when they're trying to disappear from the net. I remember it was against the rules and there was a fatal warning from the Transformation Board before it got shut down that anyone who posted his work here would be banned from the site for still persisting in doing that after they received their only warning. Maybe we should enforce that here.
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Legal/ethical issues aside ...
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1. Mikhail disappeared w/o a trace thus it's impossible to find him to ask for permission 2. Transformation Board went under after some assclown hacked it |
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Also why is the OP sprouting political non-sense? And why is he posting male transformations here? This thread is terrible and should be deleted. |
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Mikhail objected at that time in the past, the same time when it all got taken off the net, and there's no reason whatsoever to assume he has changed his mind since.
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I'm sorry to say the only way I see this action is some kind of bringing up attention to yourself before the artist itself "Just look what I did, be thankful for what I brought to you" (If your actions could have some words...). And with that you're being disrespectful to the artist's work. See ya. |
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came to posting stuff that cranked his motor,he generally just smiled and looked the other way. As for the rest,impression I have is that just as long as you're not in it for commercial gain,creatives will just smile and look the other way. |
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You don't want newcomers to the TF community to say "Mikhail? Who the fuck is Mikhail?" now do ya? |
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You do not have permission to re-post Mikhail's work. Period. There is no justification you can give that makes this okay. You can want it all you like, it doesn't change the fact that you are doing is wrong. How do you not see this? Your excuses are nonsensical and selfish....You have to get his permission (and it doesn't matter how impossible that is) before you re-post his work. You're begging for a ban-hammer here..... |
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Why hasn't this topic been moved to the correct sub forum yet? It' already lost all transformation related content, and didn't belong in the Transformation sub forum to start.
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in a year or so and the Soviets or the Chinese launched a rocket into deep space with the best Mankind had to offer future alien visitors on our extinct races achievments,the only tf artist whose work I'd allow aboard the Archive rocket would be that by Hack Machine.The rest of them I'd allow the exploding Sun to smelter. Hence imagine Gorg the Tentacled Fanboi jerking off to Hack Machine art in 51,000,000 AD. |
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So is there any relevance to any of this crap? I'm still looking for a link to whatever the art is. So is say either post a link to the art, or send this stupid thread to Flame and Bullshit. Because it certainly seems like the latter.
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Link was taken down, as stated above. The internet is the place where everything is available to those who can look, copyright or no. It becomes a touchier subject for smaller communities, particularly those with very... specific focus and artists that can have a massive boom followed by sharp withdrawal to a more enclosed state (pisipisi anyone?) or occasional complete removal from the scene.
It being taken down from the forum does not surprise me in any way, once it was clear that the original artist had retired. Not my thing, so I'm not personally going hunting for it, but a googling session and perhaps a look in the right archives and pm(s) to the right people and everything is findable. As an on/off artist it is a sad feeling to lose control of where your work goes, but everything online WILL be reposted without permission somewhere, because people are jerks like that, particuarly if the want is high and repercussions minor. It's still foolish to act as a whole like it's a right to demand other people's work though, particularly here. |
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