The MILF: To be or not to be?
 

Hi there,


As in the past - as familiar forum members will note - I may have to explain the meaning of the thread title, just a bit, as the theme may be a little vague :o.


Recently, and among others in the past few months, I have noticed that the concept of transformations surrounding the idea of MILFs (ie. a mother I'd like to fuck, an attractive middle aged woman, a sometimes domestic, suburban woman between 40 and their 50's etc) has become nascent and quietly popular - the idea floated, conflating with TG/Were-Woman tropes, not long ago in http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/22821a6d24/weremilf , as just one example.


Reflecting on this for a while, and noting that though a fairly niche concept, it does offer some fertile ground for examination; a sentiment stoked by one artist's, by the name of blackshirtboy, recent work on the subject: a young woman donning a string of pearls to undergo a transformation into a shapely, older but amorous persona.


http://blackshirtboy.deviantart.com/...arls-456847758


Struck by the vividness and a little inspired myself, I would like to open the floor to a wider discussion on the concept, its potential for exploration and how others may look upon it.


Thanks again,


Alchemical Night.

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Thank you, no really because this is what I want to see when I look at age progression or increased beauty threads. A plain looking woman turning into a sexy milf, or a nerdy girl turning into an extremely attractive older woman. Don`t really have any other examples but I approve to carry this thread along.

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I approve of this.

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Ah, I was also struck by this particular sequence! Though, I initially thought it might be a TG (since I saw the thumbnail first). Actually, I'd like it even more if it was a TG.

I suppose this concept is somewhat interesting. I mean, one of the initial things to consider is this: if someone (male or female) is turned into a MILF, do they suddenly have children as well, or have they been transformed into a woman that they know who is already a mother, or are they supposed to become pregnant and with child as a result of the transformation? (If memory serves, an older woman with a sexual appetite for younger men is commonly known as a cougar. Does that mean that those older women without children are cougars and those with children are MILFs?)

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I'm really glad that Milf TFs have been getting more and more popular lately, it's been far too scarce for too long! I myself have written a couple of stories set around this.
The MILF Machine
The MILF Machine: A Day in the Life
MILF Machine Lite

I've always seen milf TFs as a primarily physical or aesthetic transformation, rather than a literal milf. I think most people define milf as interchangeable with cougar. However, I think that a story with your concept would be pretty neat.

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I must say that I'm thrilled to see MILF tfs (MILFification?) catching the imagination of posters and growing in popularity.

I especially enjoy seeing well-established younger characters presented as MILFs. I've noticed that the Sailor Senshi seem to be a particularly popular target for this.

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Is this just a standalone pic, or is there a full doujin?

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Hi again,


It does bring a smile to see this topic beginning to take off, and that others can resonate with the concept too, on different levels. Taking a look at Ficfactor's post and Zettik's query, I have taken to some research and with interesting results.


To put that pic in context, it's actually a coloured page from not simply a single work, but from a series of them; each one dedicated to the respective post-heroic lives of the Sailor Senshi (ie. Usagi, Ami, Rei, Makoto and Mina) at the age of 30.


This particular page was taken from Mina's story; this, as are all five, penned by the artist, or group, known as "Jyura" or Jack-Pot.


Following some thought, I have come to a few conclusions. As a application of the "milf" concept, this is interesting, though maybe a bit of a semantic stretch to classify a woman at age 30 as a classic "milf". Still, otherwise, some of what transpires does fit the bill, at least as far as it might where hentai is involved :o.


In the second - and of particular importance to the forum - would be the tone of these works - not to mention some dubious material. In all, these do employ the classic tropes of hentai and it's sub-genres in all their occasionally preposterous, absurd glory. Though, anyone wishing for some light hearted fun may be disappointed; these stories being almost uniformly subdued, depressing and often mean in their mode - the senshi at age 30 all having to struggle with mundane issues which devolve into the unsavoury, possibly leaving a reader rather... deflated, by the end.


The exception to this would be Rei Hino's story (aka. Sailor Mars). She does turning things around in her own stubborn, inimitable way, though it remains that this story itself is very, very dubious due to some taboo issues found therein.


I can't stress enough that this story would only be for the curious with a strong constitution and threshold for some very unpleasant material, even by the standards of some irreverent hentai.


Otherwise, these stories of the senshi at age 30 can be found here at Pururin.com http://pururin.com/browse/848/10/jack-pot.html .


Thanks,


Alchemical Night.

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Well I've got a few concepts along these lines that I'm interested in developing further...direct MILF or TG concepts, etc. Got a TG piece coming from AutumnNatural that explores a few looks a little more too - whether in period clothing/etc...

It's kind of interesting to see exactly where the age concepts break out - between something like a 30ish MILF or something older like the portrayals in bamtfartist's work. There was also a story I found on fictionmania a few weeks ago (can't remember the title now) but it involved a younger guy going for a sex change operation with additional physical changes to make him resemble an older woman as well....like his mother's age or even older. A little different.

There's also something like the story "Payback's a Cougar" - http://www.mcstories.com/PaybackIsACougar/index.html

I've been considering getting that one illustrated...or a similar transformation progression sequence.

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As Alchemical Night intimated, it's one page from a doujin, which is itself part of a series detailing post-heroic lives of the Sailor Senshi. That panel is coloured because I requested it in a drawthread on /a/.

While I enjoy both the MILF tf and TG, I find that I don't enjoy them together. Or rather, the TG supersedes the MILFification, and it becomes a pure TG pic to me. I find a similar problem with bimbofication and racial change images. I love FtF, but MtF makes any other changes (age/build/race/species!) into secondary ones.

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In most of the porn I've seen (real-life not hentai) milf 100% of the time means Mom I'd Like to Fuck, not that 40s, 50s definition you've got going on there. Woman could be 18 and be a milf. Women in their 40s or 50s are typically referred to as "matures" from what I've seen.

BSB left a comment on "Milf Pearls" that he mainly meant the sequence to show a woman getting older/curvier, not becoming a mother, which was disappointing to me.

Anyway, I'm definitely going to commission a sequence of this in the future, although the emphasis is going to be on the 'mom' part, not on the middle-aged part.

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I agree. The type of woman people seem to be thinking of is a courgar: An older, attractive woman who looks for younger men. It just so happens that many MILFs are cougars. Much like Soren, I prefer AP of younger and/or nerdy/"plain" girl/young woman turn into a hot older woman and enjoy her new found sexiness. Sames goes for AR of a much older woman into a cougar or increased beauty of a mid-aged woman into what would be considered a cougar. Wish comics (series, one-shot, or single page) of these types of transformation were easier to find.

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Another slang term for an older woman who is looking for some action and/or attractive is Cougar without specification to the status of having produced off spring. Semi relevant to the topic I suppose.

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I have actually been working on a good amount of pics that are milf transformation.

Behold, my Miflshake pics. Basically a whole lot of before and after transformations where the subjects turn into Milfs.
Here is the list of works so far.

1. First one involving friends OC Vem in an after pic http://www.hentai-foundry.com/pictur...or-Milf-shakes

2. Before http://www.hentai-foundry.com/pictur...te-Test-part-1 and after http://www.hentai-foundry.com/pictur...te-Test-part-2 the commissioners OC going through the transformation

3. Nocturnal the deadric prince going through the transformation before http://www.hentai-foundry.com/pictur...lfshake-potion after http://www.hentai-foundry.com/pictur...e-potion-after

4. Fenoxo's Urta going through a horde themed milf transformation (warning fury and futa involved) before http://www.hentai-foundry.com/pictur...en-joins-Horde after http://www.hentai-foundry.com/pictur...s-Horde-part-2

5. Transformation of some corruption of champions characters (Futa warning) Transformation http://www.hentai-foundry.com/pictur...Milfshake-Time and after sex http://www.hentai-foundry.com/pictur...ke-Time-part-2

6. Mey Mey going through the transformation concept http://www.hentai-foundry.com/pictur...275723/MilfMey and transformation sequence (warning, starts a futa and transforms into woman) http://www.hentai-foundry.com/pictur...MilfMey-part-1

I sitll have more commissions coming in for Milfshake inspired transformations and milfshakes will be appearing as an item in Trails of Tainted space. Hope you guys enjoy the pics.

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I think this one was linked in one of the CYOA threads, but it's relevant here.

Yukiko from Persona 4 turns into a SSing milf.
Warning: SS.

http://www.bearchive.com/~addventure...52/752220.html

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Really liked that one. Good find! It reminds me of another MILF Yukiko pic by CaptainCummission. Is this a trend, or just a coincidence? (Warning, their gallery has some questionable content, browse at your own advisory)

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Hi again,


In the first, I am continuously intrigued and affirmed in that this thread has proven so compelling, and for so many too :). Also, in passing, my thanks to those who brought their own perspectives and material to this subject, as it has proven a fascinating thing - the varying interpretations being quite tasty to chew over :).


Interestingly enough, and relative to Ficfactor's perspective, I have encountered something which may resonate fittingly enough, and perhaps for all concerned. Early this year, I happened upon a forum dealing with anime role play. In this - the topic diverging towards postulated futures for the senshi - the subject of the senshi as milfs in their forties was raised and discussed, varyingly.


The thread can be found here http://forum.rpg.net/showthread.php?...e-world/page88 .


Of more particular note, it raised the issue of a certain art work, seeming to depict the senshi as milfs/middle aged; a later investigation revealing that there is an actual fan game based on this concept. Certainly, standing among the eroge genre, the game's title is given as "Sailor fuku Bijin Tsuma Senshi Aheahe Moon" and concerns the seemingly tedious, post-heroic lives of the senshi being excited by affairs with the player.


Also, I have to again say for those intending to investigate this game further, some of the material is taboo and questionable, in the very least.


Still, the senshi as, arguably, milfs can be found here below; both in and out of uniform, though the latter is a little explicit :o.


http://g.e-hentai.org/s/d5852d0223/359342-263


http://g.e-hentai.org/s/c88fc1ef24/359342-264


Thanks again,


Alchemical Night.

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I know in a somewhat mildly related note that a writer in a thead on 4chan's D- Alternative Hentai board has taken it upon expand on (no pun intended) a concept of body suits allowing someone to transform into a MILF- which is heavily based on the Nitrotitan/ModeSeven image series depicting such.

The writer's Pastebin (story still in developement): http://pastebin.com/u/FranBranc

And likewise, to peruse /d/ will yield a "MILF, MILF BODYSUIT" thread at the time of this writing, but given the transient nature of the board, I am loath to post a link when the thread has been going on for a while.

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The topic of MILFification has also come up in /d/'s drawthreads on occasion:

http://deviants-despository.booru.or...milf-ification

Perusing the regular MILF tag also turns up some examples of MILF versions of various characters.

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Hi there,


In a interesting coincidence which conflates the theme of this thread and wider events, I happened upon something rather curious...


While browsing 4chan, and a particular thread, I happened upon a purported "milfication" of the sailor senshi - seemingly older, and fuller figured with varying reactions to being back in their respective uniforms. With reactions to the new series building, it would seem that someone in the fandom turned their pen towards this particular subject, and with some talent too.


Thanks,


Alchemical Night.

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There happens to be an original hentai manga (multi-chaptered) that was based on the theme of the post-heroic lives of several magical girls (one even being a magical girl from the evil forces) in their late 20s to early 30s. The title was "Snow Knight Whitey (30)" and you can find it on Ex Hentai.

WARNING: THE MANGA IS ALL STRAIGHT-SHOTA.

With that disclaimer out of the way, there are I believe two actual MILFs in the group of mature women in the comic (3 if you count the adopted mother of the lead male who raised him but she never became pregnant in life). The interesting aspect was that it had flashbacks of the mature women as they were in their youth as tween and teen magical girls, full of righteous fury and energy fighting the bad guys, then panned to the present with them as housewives, clerks, mothers, etc. dealing with 'normal' struggles typical of the mature/MILF archetypes (with added humorous hentai content and their longings to don their magical uniforms once again to relive their glory days).

The part I liked in particular that wasn't porn-related was how the manga tries to act like it's an epilogue of an actual magical girl series. Almost makes it a frame story to that end.