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Had my eye on this one for a while. There is a trailer with some interesting shots (really quick cuts).

http://bloody-disgusting.com/videos/...razy-hormones/

Forward to 1:24 for some strangeness.

Premieres at TIFF tomorrow. Anyone going?

K

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So what is she? A werewolf? Some type of snake/fish monster? The girl is gorgeous, btw.

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Those effects shots all look like they could go in a bunch of directions, but it certainly looks visceral, and that's all I need to be happy.

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yeah, for me it looked more like some lovecraftian monster... claws, tentacles and so on. Yes, you can see a tentacle out there :P.

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From the title and the imagery I'm thinking plant. If I'm not mistaken that dead bird in the bush was strangled by a vine.

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I thought that too, but something seems to have claws and fur in one shot, and tentacles in another.

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Will watch the absolute fuck out of this.

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I saw vines instead of tentacles. But who knows.

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I saw this last night at the premiere. Snake, werewolf (I think), and many other TFs. You see some great detail, mix of practical and CG. Think Before Sunrise but with a woman who changes into various animals. Anything else is spoiler territory. Enjoy guys, this is going to be a TF classic. ;)

Skalla, they are tentacles. :)

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Yeah!! One point for the guy from the south xD. Well, I swear that I had seen the suckers of the tentacles, but I am not sure.
BTW, is there some nudity, or do they use camera angles, obstacles and so on to avoid the issue?

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The implicit answer to "who knows?" was meant to be "someone who has seen the film". :) :)

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And I saw the film. Was confirming. Take it or leave it, friend. :)

As for Anakhi, who is the guy from the south? Not sure what issue you are referring to, but as the mystery of the girl's conditioned is revealed, we see more of her transformations. The first one we get a decent look at seems to be a werewolf (or some kind of dog/cat-family transformation). The directors never clarified which animals she changed into specifically in the Q&A, but they didn't like werewolves but liked the idea of them, so they put a spin on the concept with their film. I remember a werewolf, snake, scorpion, Octopus or Squid (unclear) and some were ambiguous as far as I know. I actually stopped watching for the TF and kept watching for the story. It's very unique.

There is nudity, particularly with the biggest transformation. There is also tail growth, but it is more amusing and will disappoint anyone expecting to see the tail grow.

Even if the transformation disappoints viewers on this website (or elsewhere), it's a fantastic character-driven piece worthy of multiple viewings. The girl is gorgeous and the story has humour, charm, and even scares.

If you guys don't believe that I saw it, I don't care. Wait for the film yourself. It will be a while before it's online. I won't spoil what the girl is, because it kind of ruins the mystery of the film. Telling you that she transforms into various animals is a big enough spoiler anyway. I went into this film not even knowing there would be TF. I read a vague logline and bought tickets. Was pleasantly surprised and you guys will be too. It meets the quota for all these disappointing indie films that we keep holding out hope for.

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Did they say what the release plan for the movie was?

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where did you find it? O.o

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It's me xD... At least "south of Europe :P. Anyway, in my case I watch werewolf movies even when the werewolves are male and the TF is poor or nonexistant, just because I love horror films. And I also like the "different approach" thing for these kind of movies.
And now, as you say, we will have to wait for a while to see what do we have for the "fetish thing" :).

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Well, if it's premiering at TIFF: http://twitchfilm.com/2014/09/first-...ly-creepy.html - then....still doesn't give a great on when we're going to see it. I'm guessing if we get a US theatrical release, sometime in 2015. If VOD/DVD...same timeframe - maybe an import sooner, but who knows.

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Thanks a ton for sharing, this movie sounds so promising in that description! I know you're trying to avoid spoilers but I was wondering if you might elaborate a bit more on the transformations so that I know what I'm looking forward to? Such as, are they smooth or are they painful? Unwilling or is she controlling them? Skin ripping or not? That sort of thing. If you can share any details like that I'd really appreciate it.

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Yes ditto it would be appreciated just don't spoil it!

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I saw it at TIFF (obviously, it's the world premiere, hasn't been screened anywhere else). If it gets picked up at TIFF for release, it will most likely be by Entertainment One and Canadian distribution only. Doesn't mean you can't import and I will definitely be picking up a copy.

As for the transformations, the build up to them was more "erotic" ("fetish thing," as you say) than the actual TF, but the TFs looked fucking phenomenal. People were debating in another thread about how practical is the only way to go, but the directors spent ten minutes discussing how great practical effects are, but they can only do what physicality allows them to do. CGI and practical is necessary to give us the true TFs we want, and these guys definitely delivered. One of the directors did most of the CGI himself, aside from the "biggest TF," which was the tentacle thing. I don't know what animal it was though, sorry.

The transformations are forced and painful, but "necessary" (I will not elaborate as it constitutes a spoiler). To expand on "unwilling" might ruin the film for you. There is no skin ripping but after the snake TF she moults. And they are definitely not "smooth."

For the first half, before the mystery is "solved," the transformations are mysterious, terrifying, and erotic. After it is solved, they are more humourous, and maybe a little erotic. The first few "TFs" are undetermined animals because we don't see how far she gets. It's implied that it is a different animal each time. There is also some offscreen stuff, but they don't use it as an excuse to cheap out. There is always a story-related reason for everything they choose to hide.

If you want more details, you'll have to ask specific questions. I am happy to oblige, but I need to know what you want to know. :)

EDIT: Just remembered something. Her TFs begin with her skin doing this kind of "rotting" or "crawling" thing. Sometimes she manages to stop them before they happen, and sometimes she can't. She has some kind of injected medicine to help hold off the TF, but think of it like the "cure" in "Ginger Snaps: Unleashed." It only abates the effects for a certain time before something has to give. But unlike Brigitte, she transforms back (seemingly in the morning). Oh, and she eats live animals when transformed and when transforming. I think she tries to prevent a transformation by eating a pet rabbit (almost like zombie-Sally in Being Human Syfy), but she is unsuccessful.

Also, I personally think this will go down in the fandom as this decade's "American Werewolf in London" or this decade's "The Howling" or this decade's "Ginger Snaps." It may be too early to tell but the TFs were detailed as hell when we saw them, even if we didn't see everything.

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oh my god i need to see this ;-;

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Thanks a million for this response, it's wonderful. Would you be able to explain a bit further what you mean about the build ups to the transformations being erotic?

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Well for me it was the suspense, the waiting, the knowing that the transformation is beginning. Such as when she runs away and finds a quiet place to change. Does that make sense?

EDIT: I should also clarify that while she does moult, I don't recall seeing her actually moulting, just the separated skin after the fact. I could be wrong but I don't want to get anyone's hopes up. The film as a whole was a lot to take in. I was surprisingly not focused 100% on the TF as I am with other films where the story is not nearly as fulfilling as the transformation. With this one, everything was 100% and definitely deserves numerous rewatches, not just for the TF.

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hype over 9000! when it will be released?

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GAhhhh Can't wait for this, I've been so disappointed recently that there are so many up in the air indie films with transformation elements, but to hear that one is completely confirmed and extremely good.... I literally don't know if I can wait until it's release. If anyone can dig up a photo of makeup or test material (I've tried with no luck) I would flip. :)

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The director duo's last film was screened at Tribeca in April 2012 and was released by Tribeca itself in a limited run in January 2013. It received a DVD release by Cinedigm October 2013. Given that this film probably has a few more festivals to hit, we probably won't see any kind of release until after, even if it gets picked up for distribution. Magnolia may want this one, but who knows? It's far too early to tell. My best guess is this will available to everyone by next Halloween.

EDIT: Just realized the male lead in this film was also in Jack and Diane. One thing to note: there is no male TF in the film at all.

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god, i have to wait 2 years for Silent Hills and now a year and half for this??
life is a cruel mistress

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im not gonna torture myself..im going to keep my expectations low cause u drive yourself crazy waiting for this :P

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To me that makes nothing but sense. I greatly enjoy exactly those elements of a TF as well.

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too much hype! I need infromation :(

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I can't wait to see this. Kantomaster, can you share any more info about the werewolf TF?

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Kantomaster can you pleae spoil the movie to me in a mp? *.*

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I'd also be interested in hearing a bit more about this particular TF.

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please...tell us more :(

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Kantomaster, now at least, after you've put the flea in the ear, you do in 4 pieces to try a mode to publish this movie for us, or I'll come to search you at home, I got it? ;)

I would say that I'm tired of waiting biblical times to the outputs of the autumn or winter horror fucking festivals ... :D

Come on, you're a sadist. If you know that the movie came out in 20 years not had to say ... :rolleyes:

P.S.
Anyway, the black haired or brunette girls, are the hottest of all... :rolleyes:

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I’m also very interested in the werewolf TF. I’ve numbered the questions so you can easily answer each one next to its respective number (I don’t care about spoilers for this particular part of the movie):

1) How long is it? A minute? Less? More?
2) Which parts of her body transform?
3) Is there muzzle growth?
4) You mentioned a tail growth at some point in the movie. Is it during this TF?
5) You also mentioned nudity at some point in the movie. Again, is it during this TF? If so, which parts of her body?
6) Along the lines of my last question, is there any ripped clothing during the TF, either her ripping it off herself with her hands before the TF or the clothes ripping from her changing, growing body?

That’s about it. Appreciate any info. Thanks so much for giving us the details on this gem.

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I hate to be a Debbie downer but he hasn't responded to anyone yet but you guys keep asking. I'm sure he will keep us updated he gave all the information he could and more so just RELAX because it's kinda annoying -_-

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Haha the leechers without any other contribution to the community other than to constantly demand more content or otherwise complain about how slow the content is coming out, and then the complaints after it doesn't meet their expectations... Sometimes I wish there was a community contributer-only circle jerk where content was only shared amongst those with demonstrably valuable contributions. I've done something similar with photomanipulators on dA where I have shared a bunch of WIPs and unreleased images that will never see the public light of day, same goes on ti.erazor-zone.de where I have an artist's only gallery (but I haven't updated that in ages)

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I want the spoilers...why she transforms?

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Process sort of had that back when there was a registration fee. I'm still neutral on the topic on whether rescinding it was a good or bad idea.

elrey stop spamming the thread. It looks like the film is still doing the festival circuit, as it will be at Sitges in october.

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Yeah I recall having to link my dA account to show I had something to offer and wasn't just coming here to steal and lurk

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Sorry, but I have to take offense to this comment. First of all, the man said if we had any specific questions, he’d be “happy to oblige.” Yes, I noticed that he wasn’t answering people’s questions lately, but I figured that was because they weren’t specific enough. It’s not like I wrote, “Tell me more!” and that was it. I asked extremely specific questions and then numbered them so they’d be easier for him to answer one by one.

Secondly, I’m not as much of a “leecher” as you think (and yes, I realize the word “Lurker” is under my username, which I resent). I just started a thread on Rick Baker’s aborted she-wolf design in “Cursed,” which spawned four pages of comments. I also was the first poster to alert this board to the werewolf movie “Wolves” and pointed out its she-wolf sex scene in the trailer (this movie was brought up again months later in a separate thread, but no one seemed to notice I already mentioned it), though unfortunately, the movie and its TF/sex scene were both a bust (as usual). I posted an exhaustive, in-depth review of pretty much every female werewolf TF in both movies and T.V. in an old board by Krustythesailor that sprung from this board when we were kicking around ideas to fund a she-wolf TF project, and it was almost immediately deleted, as well as the board, for some reason. I also (now we’re going waaaay back) posted a series of female werewolf TF short stories that were fairly well received by the community, albeit it was over a decade ago and on another board. And without giving away my identity, I was involved with a small-budget, short she-wolf movie that this board was recently discussing (not saying which, as it might give away too much).

Probably most important of all though, I was the first person to commission Missa for a she-wolf TF video, which, imho, was the first commissioned amateur werewolf TF that was worth a damn. As a result, it ended up being the number-one clip on Clips4Sale and inspired several other she-wolf TF videos, some of which have also hit the top spot, as well as broadened Missa’s content to more animal-themed TFs.

So why haven’t I posted more? Well, this isn’t exactly Facebook, is it? This isn’t a social media site where I have to ask, “Hey guys, how’re you doing?” If I had nothing worthwhile to post, I didn’t, as I don’t believe in wasting people’s time. Perhaps you would be happier if I posted the same message all the time about the short movie “The Dark” like Josh does. Then I wouldn’t be a “Lurker” anymore.

Anyway, to quote the immortal Cartman, "Screw you guys…I’m going home." :-)

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Howlingfan: Sorry about the board getting deleted. Turns out female TF-talk was a violation of their TOS.

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Okay, no problem. Love your stuff btw.

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Sounds needlessly elitist in a fetish that is already sparsely populated enough, and I say this as someone who has produced work for it before. Sorry if the posts here bothered you, but truly there is no need to be so rude.

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Sorry I caused you offence. I definitely had Josh in mind when I made that post (and everyone that's made an account to post a request thread outside of the TF Request Thread and then disappeared).

I believe that those that know they have contributed, shouldn't have anything to prove or take any offense from my comment. It wasn't squarely aimed at people that asked further questions of Kantomaster, but rather the people that ask when films are coming out in every single thread, when the answer would be obvious if they'd just do some of their own research

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Yeah I guess there's a reason the ignore list was invented. I should probably use it.

Depends how you look at it. Sure it's elitist, but I see it as a way of saying thanks to fellow photomanipulators and a chance to share WIPs and collate feedback prior to publishing.

I know I'm derailing the discussion here and perhaps we should take it to another thread, but if such an elitist place existed, do you think we'd see more or less content? If it was well known that it existed, would that prompt people to come out of the wookworks and try their hand at drawing or writing in an attempt to get in?

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Yeah I only meant it to those guys who just keep asking for stuff it's soooooooo annoying especially when you see they only have 3 or 4 posts so you know they don't or have probably never contributed anything here. Over at metamorphose.org it's like omg they ask for shit every 5 seconds almost like demanding it at times like wow

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You do not know to do is discuss and blaming others. No one is better than the other in this forum and we all have the same needs, more or less. But, you know what I tell you? But why not You go happily to fuck everybody, especially that boiled fish of howlingfan.


You are a forum of whiners. No one who knows how to take an initiative to create something for the community, you know just talk and say shit ...

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To me it does not seem to have written anything of annoying. I know what I have written, in this forum do not know how to do nothing but argue and get angry, all the time, what the fuck ...

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I feel that clip from Billy Madison would come in handy right about now

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sorry, I dndn't want to spam :o I will stay calm, forgive me ;)

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What movie were we discussing? I have forgotten.

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I hear what you're saying, especially in light of this Josh person's just lovely commentary, but I'm of the opinion that the community gains much more by being inclusive than it gains by being exclusive. I mean, there are a lot of folks that never "produce" content who do really helpful things like bringing content to the attention of the community. Goodness knows we won't find those little nuggets without as many hands as we can get sifting for them. And I can easily see just in Missa's thread that only a small fraction of the people who buy her clips ever say a word. These silent and non producing members of the community are still really important in my eyes, even if all they do is provide those who make works for this community with a little praise and feedback.

I think it would just be more productive to weed out problem members such as Josh, who seem to go out of their way to inflame, insult and harm those who actually come to talk. I totally agree with you that folks like that would not be missed

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Wow, I leave for a few days and this thread takes a detour. Anyway, at least it seems to be sorted out now. But how can you guys talk about exclusivity on a forum that is as exclusive as it gets?

I don't really take well to being called a sadist for being busy and having little time to come on here and help everyone replenish their wank banks (to avoid putting it lightly). I do not know when it will be released, and that is not my fault. I did not make the film, Joshy boy. However, I am more than happy to answer some questions right now, and I almost want to do it through PM because of your attitude. But I don't want to ruin this for the polite users who have been asking nicely and those who will read this thread later.

That being said, it's been a week since I saw this and I have seen a bunch of new films since. My memory might be slightly fuzzy. I only saw it once so I'll do my best.

Northwind, Cursebearer, howlingfan: I will answer the werewolf TF as best as I can, but in response to howlingfan's numbered questions (it's an easier process, please forgive me).

1. The TF is around a minute, give or take, but the focus isn't on the animal so much as the fact that she's in the bathroom transforming while her boyfriend is over for one of the first times. She thinks she's a freak and doesn't want to scare him off. I remember seeing muzzle/snout growth (a face TF, technically). I didn't even realize it was werewolf-esque until I saw that bit (which is close to the end). Remember, this isn't confirmed as a werewolf transformation. It could be a beast of any kind.

2 and 3. Refer to 1.

4. It's a scorpion tail. They are sitting on a bench and we see the stinger on the tail behind the boyfriend, and they are both oblivious to the fact that he may be stinged/killer by her tail. There is also a face TF during this scene. I don't believe there is any process in this scene.

5. We see her breasts during a sex scene early on and during the the tentacle/Snake-like TF (this is the biggest TF of the film). We might see her butt, but I don't remember.

6. I actually don't recall if there is any ripped clothing. Well, there is ripped clothing, but I don't remember if we actually see it ripping. We definitely see it after a couple TFs though.

elrey: I am not giving you spoilers. Sorry.

There is another scene in the film where she eats rabbits and does some ritual(?) to try to prevent a transformation. I may have mentioned this. We do not know what she becomes, but I thought it may have been another werewolf/beast TF. It's unclear as far as I can tell. When this film goes wide, you may have differing opinions on the film's ambiguity. Most of this TF, though, if I remember, is pain and snarling (she's trying to repress it).

Please feel free to ask questions. If I don't reply, it's because I haven't been on the forum yet. Only freak out if I post in the thread without answering questions (hahaha).

Also, what makes you guys think I am male? Just curious. ;)

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Thanks a lot for answering my questions. Sorry if they came off as annoying. Needless to say, I cannot wait for this movie.

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You're going to love it. It's different, but in a good way.

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i almost wish i hadn't read all of that... the anticipation is real

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She's probably a Manticore.

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I can confirm that this is not the case.

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Some news: http://bloody-disgusting.com/news/33...s-love-spring/

"...Drafthouse Films acquired the coming-of-age horror drama... and will release in limited theaters and on VOD in 2015."