Re: Harem Protagonist - Dating Sim With BE (Last Kickstarter Days!)
 

It's a damn shame really. The promise this had was immense...

Re: Harem Protagonist - Dating Sim With BE (Last Kickstarter Days!)
 

That sucks dude :( hopefully he comes around, seems like he is taking a lot of heat and it might be getting to him, especially as he did say that with the funding it received he had to relegate it to side project status. Either way, I'm glad you got paid at least.

Re: Harem Protagonist - Dating Sim With BE (Last Kickstarter Days!)
 

Oh wait, when did he say that? i missed that. the game got PLENTY of funding. but cuddle blew several thousand on it flying to America and back for a con to promote the game when almost no progress had been made on it, as well as spending some to replace his personal laptop. Also, we lost €15k in taxes according to the bank statements he showed us, but i have a feeling that could have been avoided if cuddle hadn't drug his feet so much about getting work done... sorry... I'm just a tad bitter. had so many hopes for this game. I dedicated 2 years of my life to it. then to be treated like trash by cuddle and see him pretty much throw the potential of the game in the dumpster just destroys me.

Re: Harem Protagonist - Dating Sim With BE (Last Kickstarter Days!)
 

I hope this doesn't turn out like his other project that took years (for a simple flash game) by himself. I backed this at the start and have yet to ask for a refund mostly in hope that everything works out but that hope is nearly 0 now as is my hope for a timely refund. if the project goes belly up. at least you got paid.

Re: Harem Protagonist - Dating Sim With BE (Last Kickstarter Days!)
 

15,000 EUROs in taxes??? (This just sunk in for me)... Doing a little research the HMRC (The U.K. equivalent of the IRS) states Fund Raised projects revenue is considered as donations and are taxed at 20%.

Doing math then that would mean...

The game was funded at close to: €75,000? that's almost 90,000$ which is more than enough to cover an experienced game coder's salary (for one year).

Either way after thinking about this something clearly does not add up. I am not saying the above statement is FALSE, far from it, but that is truly messed up of Cuddle just pocketed close to €75K for delivering nothing.

Is he even active on any forums. I'd love to get his opinion on this fact.

Re: Harem Protagonist - Dating Sim With BE (Last Kickstarter Days!)
 

Cuddle isn't active, period.

Re: Harem Protagonist - Dating Sim With BE (Last Kickstarter Days!)
 

Mmmhm,

I guess he's a-chill-in on a pile of Euros... Who knows maybe he made himself a fort or something.


Does anyone have a link to the Kick Starter or is that gone as well?

Re: Harem Protagonist - Dating Sim With BE (Last Kickstarter Days!)
 

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects...st/description

maybe I'm miss-remembering but i think that was what it looked like from the bank statement he showed us. I'm sure if I dug around, I could find it.

Re: Harem Protagonist - Dating Sim With BE (Last Kickstarter Days!)
 

First thank you for the link, second d-damn!


1,805 backers pledged €62,701 to help bring this project to life.

This story is getting super super interesting, even more so than the defaulted 3-D printer scandal.

https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-36271249

The messed up thing is I believe that the project imploded and no one (especially the guy who took the money) suffered any consequences.

I really doubt that Cuddle ran off with all the cash. I think the project was a huge success and he had no concept on how to implement such a project and burned through the cash due to poor decisions.

(Who knows maybe he did hire a staff to do X, Y, Z and the individuals took the money and left)

BUT

Is a creator legally obligated to fulfill the promises of their project?

Yes. Kickstarter's Terms of Use require creators to fulfill all rewards of their project or refund any backer whose reward they do not or cannot fulfill. (This is what creators see before they launch.) We crafted these terms to create a legal requirement for creators to follow through on their projects, and to give backers a recourse if they don't. We hope that backers will consider using this provision only in cases where they feel that a creator has not made a good faith effort to complete the project and fulfill.

Either way this is an amazing story, and I am curious to learn more.

AND I cannot fathom the possibility that Kickstarter lacks any information (Real Name, DOB, ID info, address, Bank accounts) involving the identity of Mr. Cuddles.

This is a perfect example for Kickstarter to step up. If Cuddles is MIA have Kickstarter update the project page with a Legal Action Tab where people can get in contact with the legal team investigating said project.

Ah man, this is messed up, best off luck to all of those who seeming got taken. I hope you all gain restitution.

Re: Harem Protagonist - Dating Sim With BE (Last Kickstarter Days!)
 

It really is a shame- Harem Protagonist had potential out the wazoo...

Re: Harem Protagonist - Dating Sim With BE (Last Kickstarter Days!)
 

I've lost big on a Kickstarter before... I backed Prodos Games' AvP boardgame. They promised to deliver for yeeeeeeeeeeeeears. Nope. Never. Never could figure out how to get my money back from them. Which stinks 'cause their game has been very successful.

Best of luck to any who want to fight lost rewards/cash.

Re: Harem Protagonist - Dating Sim With BE (Last Kickstarter Days!)
 

I kind wanna share my scenes here as I know y'all would appreciate them, but I guess the dreamer in me still has that smallest glimmer of hope that Cuddle will stop being a butt and actually use my scenes in the game.... but then again, for that to matter, he would actually need to MAKE the damn game.