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Ilparazzo 01-25-2009 09:12 PM

Re: Evil conversion(for the lack for better term)
 
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Originally Posted by Archanfel (Post 257903)
Couple of pictures from Crooked Navel.

Posted that devil Louise few pages back, really would wish Crooked Navel would few other characters from Zero no Tsukaima besides her.

DrMoreau 01-25-2009 09:34 PM

Re: Evil conversion(for the lack for better term)
 
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Originally Posted by singory (Post 257837)
two pages of Crystar Comic
an old Marvel series

from the first issue comes

I remember that comic and that scene.

I also remember it facinating me for reasons I didn't understand then.

Antaris 01-26-2009 03:50 AM

Re: Evil conversion(for the lack for better term)
 
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Originally Posted by Ficfactor (Post 257949)
I've been wondering this for a while, but how in god's name do you register for that place?

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=8551398

This tutorial should work.

Just one thing: PLEASE don't comment in English. It's not Youtube, and it's Japanese-based, some people simply do not want to see foreign languages. (Close-minded? Well, imagine some foreigners step into your home, start watching your TV and talk gibberish. That's kind of how they feel like.)

However, if you can communicate in Mandarin, Spanish, or German, you may do so over here:

http://tw.nicovideo.jp/ - Mandarin
http://es.nicovideo.jp/ - Spanish
http://de.nicovideo.jp/ - German

No English service. Weird, right?

Mitchell 01-26-2009 06:22 AM

Re: Evil conversion(for the lack for better term)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by singory (Post 257837)
two pages of Crystar Comic
an old Marvel series

from the first issue comes

I sense an Aesop coming on...

Ilparazzo 01-26-2009 10:27 AM

Re: Evil conversion(for the lack for better term)
 
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Originally Posted by Antaris (Post 258005)

Actually the word is that if they had opened up an english portal for nicovideo, the whole service might have been overwhelmed and I can fully imagine that.

Ficfactor 01-26-2009 10:59 AM

Re: Evil conversion(for the lack for better term)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Antaris (Post 258005)
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=8551398

This tutorial should work.

Just one thing: PLEASE don't comment in English. It's not Youtube, and it's Japanese-based, some people simply do not want to see foreign languages. (Close-minded? Well, imagine some foreigners step into your home, start watching your TV and talk gibberish. That's kind of how they feel like.)

However, if you can communicate in Mandarin, Spanish, or German, you may do so over here:

http://tw.nicovideo.jp/ - Mandarin
http://es.nicovideo.jp/ - Spanish
http://de.nicovideo.jp/ - German

No English service. Weird, right?

Thanks mate. Consider yourself owed one!

cpt soban 01-26-2009 12:54 PM

Re: Evil conversion(for the lack for better term)
 
I would comment that the japanese do post in english youtube, in japanese. So I guess a bunch of foreigners did come into my home and start speaking gibberish.

Xanderfox 01-26-2009 06:06 PM

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It maybe that Japanese people do that Soban, but is it fair to punish one group of foreigners for the crimes of a different group because they happen to be from the same country?

Antaris 01-26-2009 06:49 PM

Re: Evil conversion(for the lack for better term)
 
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Originally Posted by cpt soban (Post 258113)
I would comment that the japanese do post in english youtube, in japanese. So I guess a bunch of foreigners did come into my home and start speaking gibberish.

Totally understandable.

But another thing is, when there are Japanese posts on Youtube, chances are that Japanese post comments on jp.youtube.com, where only the interface language changes, comments from all over the world simply go into one giant column. On the other hand, the foreign language services on nico have comments completely separate from each other.

Many has already complained about niconico not having English service, even if it's more commonly spoken than German or Spanish. So what Ilparazzo mentioned may just be the truth. :rolleyes:

WildSide 01-26-2009 08:32 PM

Re: Evil conversion(for the lack for better term)
 
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Originally Posted by Antaris (Post 258226)
Many has already complained about niconico not having English service, even if it's more commonly spoken than German or Spanish.

Not so. Spanish is the third-most widely spoken language in the world. English is fourth.

And personally, I think the explanation is the intrinsic prejudice and xenophobia in Japanese culture.

Blax12 01-27-2009 02:06 AM

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rb9: One problem faced when creating a game like that is making sure 'what your playerbase wants' and 'what the game rewards' line up.

Best way to describe this is via a flash game I recently played that was very well done but failed completely in this regard. The player had to navigate to avoid objects that floated towards and past the player at increasing speeds. If the player was hit they lost life and got semiraped by a wild assortment of tentacle appendages.

'What the player wanted' was to see some tentacle action, but 'what the game rewarded' was avoiding getting tentacled up. This creates the problem where the player has to choose between winning the game and avoiding the payoff, or purposefully attempting to lose the game to get what they're after. What this creates is a state where the entire 'game' concept goes out the window, and the author may as well of just of created a noninteractive slideshow of tentacle positions.

In order for a game to be a valid medium for what you're trying to do you must make game mechanics and desire line up. A perfect way to do this would be (as you suggested) have the player play as the seducer (or even multiple seducers) rather than the seduced.

An example would be a female character who has been cursed with a lust spell, that can only be lessened by infecting/corrupting other females. She walks in to a town with a gauge/timer gives the player a sense of tension.

rb9 01-27-2009 02:58 AM

Re: Evil conversion(for the lack for better term)
 
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Originally Posted by Blax12 (Post 258325)
rb9: One problem faced when creating a game like that is making sure 'what your playerbase wants' and 'what the game rewards' line up.

Best way to describe this is via a flash game I recently played that was very well done but failed completely in this regard. The player had to navigate to avoid objects that floated towards and past the player at increasing speeds. If the player was hit they lost life and got semiraped by a wild assortment of tentacle appendages.

'What the player wanted' was to see some tentacle action, but 'what the game rewarded' was avoiding getting tentacled up. This creates the problem where the player has to choose between winning the game and avoiding the payoff, or purposefully attempting to lose the game to get what they're after. What this creates is a state where the entire 'game' concept goes out the window, and the author may as well of just of created a noninteractive slideshow of tentacle positions.

In order for a game to be a valid medium for what you're trying to do you must make game mechanics and desire line up. A perfect way to do this would be (as you suggested) have the player play as the seducer (or even multiple seducers) rather than the seduced.

An example would be a female character who has been cursed with a lust spell, that can only be lessened by infecting/corrupting other females. She walks in to a town with a gauge/timer gives the player a sense of tension.

Yeah, you raise a good philosophical point. However, the audience in this case, and the corruption group, does want to see bad endings. I'm attempting to mitigate the whole 'game over' = 'play over' issue by introducing endings where you play as a mind controlled heroine. Once the plot thickens more, the gameplay will be much more non-linear and several paths can be taken to complete the game (including permanently becoming evil).


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