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wolfman-al 12-06-2015 10:39 AM

Nutcracker - Russian Animation
 
IŽm back. And I bear gifts.
In the spirit of the christmas season, here is a old russian cartoon basing on Tschaikowskys ballet "The Nutcracker".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yequaAxBysg
If you want to skip to the shrinking scene skip to ca. 13:50 (IŽd watch the whole thing thou, its beautifully animated).

Prof_Sai 12-08-2015 02:41 PM

Re: Nutcracker - Russian Animation
 
Such a crude art style. Very depersonalized and hard to look at.

LK 12-08-2015 03:08 PM

Re: Nutcracker - Russian Animation
 
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Originally Posted by Prof_Sai (Post 762150)
Such a crude art style. Very depersonalized and hard to look at.

Hah.

Prof_Sai 12-08-2015 03:21 PM

Re: Nutcracker - Russian Animation
 
I could be a communist cartoonist! If only I was living in Moscow in the 1970s and was the best friend of some bureaucrat who was giving out the jobs. And could keep my mouth shut. Or maybe not.

qzar9999 12-08-2015 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Prof_Sai (Post 762154)
I could be a communist cartoonist! If only I was living in Moscow in the 1970s and was the best friend of some bureaucrat who was giving out the jobs. And could keep my mouth shut. Or maybe not.

In Soviet Russia, cartoon draws YOU.

OhZone 12-08-2015 07:46 PM

Re: Nutcracker - Russian Animation
 
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Originally Posted by wolfman-al (Post 761983)
IŽm back. And I bear gifts.
In the spirit of the christmas season, here is a old russian cartoon basing on Tschaikowskys ballet "The Nutcracker".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yequaAxBysg
If you want to skip to the shrinking scene skip to ca. 13:50 (IŽd watch the whole thing thou, its beautifully animated).

Yay! Thanks for posting and glad to see you under your old user! :)

danielsangeo 12-08-2015 10:13 PM

Re: Nutcracker - Russian Animation
 
Then there's this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bX6iYzDxrZ4

(Not Russian)

wolfman-al 12-08-2015 11:05 PM

Re: Nutcracker - Russian Animation
 
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Originally Posted by Prof_Sai (Post 762150)
Such a crude art style. Very depersonalized and hard to look at.

I disagree, if you look closely youŽll see how fluent the animation is. Just because you are unfamiliar with the art style and you canŽt wank to it doesnŽt make it crude.
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Originally Posted by Prof_Sai (Post 762150)
I could be a communist cartoonist! If only I was living in Moscow in the 1970s and was the best friend of some bureaucrat who was giving out the jobs. And could keep my mouth shut. Or maybe not.

Your ignorance is showing. In the Soviet Union and other eastern block states cartoons and illustrations of children books were one of the few areas of art were artist enjoyed very little restriction by censorship and were creativity could flourish (possible more than in the west where creativity was restricted by target groups and sales), so there (and are still some) were some incredible illustrators out there.

Twilight_Roxas 12-08-2015 11:59 PM

Re: Nutcracker - Russian Animation
 
Was this made by the same Russian animated studio that made the Snow Queen in the 1950s?

Prof_Sai 12-09-2015 04:12 AM

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Originally Posted by wolfman-al (Post 762183)
I disagree, if you look closely youŽll see how fluent the animation is. Just because you are unfamiliar with the art style and you canŽt wank to it doesnŽt make it crude.

I DID look closely - it's quite necessary due to the lack of close ups. The most inbetweens seem to go where they are easy, rather than where they are useful. Clara's leg is fully animated when she kicks the mice's ladder down, but her face is just one ambiguous drawing when she should be reacting in amazement.

Clara shrinks and the camera cuts away for a full 10 seconds before we get to see her react, and then it's such a distant shot we can hardly get a reading. She is supposed to be the viewpoint character so how she feels about this is vital. (Compare with danielsangeo's clip.) In the russian version the mice are much better drawn and more emotionally comprehensible then Clara despite being the bad guys. It's a struggle to get any emotion out of what is going on.

vincent_richter 12-09-2015 04:24 AM

Re: Nutcracker - Russian Animation
 
It's possible that Clara isn't the focus. ;)

Prof_Sai 12-09-2015 04:36 AM

Re: Nutcracker - Russian Animation
 
Yes she is. "Audience surrogate" is another name for this. She is in every scene (except for when the prince is telling her a story) It's a standard structure in storytelling.

I watched some more of it and she does get some facial animation at first. But not too much. The king gets more, and he is only in a flashback.


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