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Prinz Eugen 10-01-2020 06:05 AM

Bearchive .com down ?
 
So for 2 days now I have not been able to get in... times out .. Anyone else having trouble getting into the Breast Expansion Archive ?

Blake Isaac Gordon 10-01-2020 06:24 AM

Re: Bearchive .com down ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Prinz Eugen (Post 842708)
So for 2 days now I have not been able to get in... times out .. Anyone else having trouble getting into the Breast Expansion Archive ?

Out of curiosity I tried to go to the Plume... No dice.

makes me wonder if its just that time of year for a server upgrade or something else.

sencho 10-01-2020 07:04 AM

Re: Bearchive .com down ?
 
The scripted parts of the Addventure broke on the 26th so perhaps it’s some larger problem with their whole site?

BillPratt 10-01-2020 08:38 AM

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Been a while since I've been to the site. People still posting morphs of Jennifer Love Hewitt?

Blake Isaac Gordon 10-01-2020 05:59 PM

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The Breast Expansion Story Club site is still alive and well.

sencho 10-02-2020 07:06 AM

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And it’s back. Forum is still a bit slow but addventure seems healthy.

BillPratt 10-02-2020 08:24 AM

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Come on. The addventure's never been healthy. It's like chugging caffeine-fortified Coca-Cola by the gallon.

Metatron 10-02-2020 09:23 AM

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Yeah, I gotta agree with bill, however.
You know it’s wrong but ya keep doing it.

sencho 10-03-2020 01:12 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BillPratt (Post 842743)
Come on. The addventure's never been healthy. It's like chugging caffeine-fortified Coca-Cola by the gallon.

Well I was going for healthy by its standards which it’s not even that based on checking tonight.

So I’ll yield the point and fade back to lurking.

fredzor 10-06-2020 10:03 AM

Re: Bearchive .com down ?
 
Haven't visited since all the drama in the forums about the 1-1-1-1 rule.

Blake Isaac Gordon 10-06-2020 11:05 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by fredzor (Post 842880)
Haven't visited since all the drama in the forums about the 1-1-1-1 rule.

Oh snap I had forgotten all about that.

Can you refresh my memory, how did that rule go?

I can't even remember the reason why the site had to implement it.

Lightfoot 10-07-2020 01:27 PM

Re: Bearchive .com down ?
 
It might just be me, but it's SSOOO slow. Like click on a link and wait 15 minutes for anything to load. I don't remember it being this slow even back on dial-up.

NimrodClover 10-07-2020 05:10 PM

Re: Bearchive .com down ?
 
Hmmm. I have not tried to go there in a while. The browser is taking about 60-90 seconds to resolve. They were doing some housecleaning these last few weeks so it is possible that somebody messed something up again. I know they were trying to expunge all the Chelsea Charms content, which may make up about 10% of the site!

Blake Isaac Gordon 10-07-2020 05:14 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by NimrodClover (Post 842947)
Hmmm. I have not tried to go there in a while. The browser is taking about 60-90 seconds to resolve. They were doing some housecleaning these last few weeks so it is possible that somebody messed something up again. I know there were trying to expunge all the Chelsea Charms content, which may make up about 10% of the site!

That sounds like a killer story. I wonder why?

Hmmmm

Lightfoot 10-08-2020 12:51 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Blake Isaac Gordon (Post 842948)
That sounds like a killer story. I wonder why?

Hmmmm

She retired and asked them to remove everything. And they seem to be removing everything, even morphs.

NimrodClover 10-08-2020 03:28 PM

Re: Bearchive .com down ?
 
Yes, it is a little unprecedented in its scope and extent. Other models have requested that no copyright images be posted, or that no new content added, or that threads specific to them be removed. But in Charms' case, it appears that it goes well into derivative works, discussions, and those things related. With the forum acting the way it is, it has been a bit difficult to see what is disappearing. There was either some legal aspects involved or someone just messed up in tinkering with the forum.

Anyway, taking Charms out of the BEA is a bit like taking peanuts out of a Snickers candy bar, it can be done, but tends to mess up the bar along the way.

I still can't think of another example of this much capitulation to a person's request.

Lightfoot 10-09-2020 01:42 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by NimrodClover (Post 842984)
I still can't think of another example of this much capitulation to a person's request.

I also don't know what it accomplishes. It's not the biggest site on the internet, and there have to be pictures and stories about her everywhere. Is she going to try to take down every picture of her everywhere? I mean she had a Wikipedia page, a page on IMDB, and news stories about her on big news sites.

Do posts about her on the BEA forum matter? If you do an image search for her you find tons of pictures, none of them from the BEA. It seems a little silly considering her fame.

NimrodClover 10-09-2020 05:48 AM

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There is a bit of speculation that first appeared when the BEA mods first mentioned that the Charms mega-thread and related postings were removed or being removed per her request. This is actually about all we know. For some other reasons, Charms targeted the BEA specifically, made a request (or requests), and the Forum Masters responded to a degree far beyond what they have ever done for any other person. It essentially goes against what the site agreement says any user can expect in terms of content control. They really have given her special service by going to such lengths to remove her content at the BEA. It is unprecedented. My frustration is that in their zeal they may have damaged the forum.

It feels like they drove the truck off the road, somewhere they have never, and should never have gone, and are now stuck in the mud, only because one of the passengers said they wanted to.

There has to be some reason why the BEA was on her radar and why they have gone to such lengths to remove most anything about her. My theory is that, out of all the real world BE people out there, Charms parallels the BEA's existence. In truth, she is really just that, BE. That is all she is known for and what makes her distinct. The attention and scrutiny and critiques of her at the BEA are inexorably linked to her augmentations and are were woven through both bodies. (literally)

Now that she has had reduction or in truth removal, it does seem she is removing one of the more conspicuous sources of history, analysis, admiration, and criticism regarding that phase of her life. It is not that the BEA is rather minor on the internet it is that the BEA happens to be almost exactly what she is trying to cut out of her history.
Unlike most of the other adult sites that have her content, the BEA actually dealt specifically with the one item that made her special. Now that she has had to physically remove that, she is removing the BEA content. The two are linked.

She is not going after one of the dozens of generic porn sites that has her waggling her chest at some convention, claiming some preposterous chest size, or being titillating with some drooling fan but rather a site that has discussed in great depth her reasons, career, motivations, her ACTUAL SIZE, her personality, and changes over time. That is what the BEA does.

It may be that she has defined herself for so long by the former thin superficial that it is a little unsettling for her to know there was a long-running site that scrutinized her at a much deeper level while using the very vehicle (her chest) as the focal point. When she cut out the one she had to cut out the other.

Now it could be total coincidence that the Charms request and systematic removal of chunks of the forum (including a multi-decade thread with interspersed attachments and cross-links) just happened to coincide with one of the few major problem/crashes of the BEA forum. But, it is difficult not to remember earlier examples or get the feeling that someone just drove the the truck into the mud.

The BEA was still super slow today...

Blake Isaac Gordon 10-09-2020 07:26 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by NimrodClover (Post 843005)

...But, it is difficult not to remember earlier examples or get the feeling that someone just drove the the truck into the mud.

The BEA was still super slow today...

Mercy-- this gets better and better, thanks for the very cool read.

Prinz Eugen 10-11-2020 06:27 PM

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takes a very very long time to load...something is really wrong

BillPratt 10-11-2020 06:30 PM

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Kranix! Look! It's Unicron!

Lightfoot 10-12-2020 01:06 AM

Re: Bearchive .com down ?
 
For me, it takes 2-3 minutes for a thread to load, and then several more minutes for it to load the avatars.

It may have improved slightly, but it's still not good enough to bother visiting, or posting there anymore unless you are incredibly dedicated.

It took about 15 minutes to look around a little, and I see that most of the forum sections haven't had new posts since the 9th or before. If this isn't fixed soon, the whole forum there won't be worth continuing. It's sad because at one time it was "the place".

Blake Isaac Gordon 10-12-2020 06:15 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Lightfoot (Post 843071)
... It's sad because at one time it was "the place".

I get that feeling completely. I used to love the Plume. At one time it was a great place for writers to shuffle around ideas and themes.

Now its just a place where the only activity is when the the BE Adventure gets another update.

Its weird there is a small sliver of BE content on Amazon and Smash Words so its not like this genre has completely died out. Thus I guess most of the authors are banging away in solitude.

catfish27 10-12-2020 09:11 PM

Re: Bearchive .com down ?
 
There's a BEAddventure Discord where some of the more prolific authors hang out -- link is on the Addventure main page. (The focus isn't solely BE, though, which is true of the Addventure as well, of course.)

Underminer 10-12-2020 11:42 PM

Re: Bearchive .com down ?
 
I used to be a frequent lurker there until the big crash about 15-20 years ago. After the site came back, most of the images in the message board stopped working for me. I thought it was my dinosaur computer, but after getting a new (and hella fast) rig, the problem persisted. I stopped visiting, and eventually gave up on it. It may be just me, but the community there has also diminished to a point where new sightings, media posts, stories, etc. are getting pretty spotty.

I hate to say this, but perhaps the BEArchive has outlived its usefulness.

Blake Isaac Gordon 10-13-2020 06:10 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Underminer (Post 843100)

I hate to say this, but perhaps the BEArchive has outlived its usefulness.

Cosign...

(I thought I had something else to add but I don't, and I think its for the best.)

NimrodClover 10-13-2020 11:10 AM

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Having been at the BEA from the start I would have to say that the "usefulness" is up for debate. There have been, in general, three eras at the BEA.

The initial phase - when it was the ONLY rather comprehensive place to go, computers were slower, and the idea was more to collect and "ARCHIVE" the BE content out there. I mean, its in the name of the site! This seemed to last until the early members aged out or moved on and the nature of the internet started to provided sites with a much more interactive and "modern" feel.

The first crash - this took out much of the beginning history of the BEA and the forum which did gut much of that early feel of the place. There was some much more varied content back then. In a way it removed some of the "importance" and undermined the "archive" aspect. One should remember that the first crash was caused by the attempt to move / back-up the site in an attempt to improve the site and make it more modern.**

The latter forum and site - in more recent years and after a few other incidents the place settled into a basic chest centered soft porn site. There was just a tiny bit of actual BE and the participation was a fraction of before. There has not been much in the way of BE activity there for a long while.

I will say, that due to its long existence, it may be the closest thing to a comprehensive collection, dare we say archive, to the whole BE thing.

** There is still a theory that the first crash was precipitated by a request to have some content removed and the forum architecture did not allow for the extent of deleting and something went wrong in the process.

DrEnlarge 10-15-2020 02:00 PM

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Ahem...there was a pre-archive stage that I ‘might’ have had a hand in. :)

Blake Isaac Gordon 10-15-2020 06:42 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DrEnlarge (Post 843151)
Ahem...there was a pre-archive stage that I ‘might’ have had a hand in. :)

Yes and that site was dope. I have fond memories of those days. I believe I even contributed to the funds to better secure the animated gifs files.

NimrodClover 10-17-2020 03:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DrEnlarge (Post 843151)
Ahem...there was a pre-archive stage that I ‘might’ have had a hand in. :)

That's right. Back in June of 1997, when the BEA solidified into a distinct site much of your earlier content helped form some of the core. It has been a long time since those early years and the BEA role has shifted over time as well as its focus. Back in the day, any BE content was rare and scattered. The BEA of '97 was one of the earliest "comprehensive" sites and its consolidation anchored it and probably contributed to its longevity. It is starting to look like 23 years is going to be the "run" of the BEA.

Blake Isaac Gordon 10-17-2020 10:45 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by NimrodClover (Post 843197)
It is starting to look like 23 years is going to be the "run" of the BEA.

Sweet mercy on a whim I went over and checked the site. It looks like Pinterest now.

Do creators even still have their sections anymore?

Man o-man, this all puts things into perspective. 23 years is a long time, I'm sure many of the early adapters are in their late forties early fifties by now (like me).

Now that people have PornHub (I despise that place) I guess there is no need for BE.

BillPratt 10-18-2020 12:04 PM

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Pornhub's BE content is pretty much useless, so there is still an underserved market out there. The trick is to find a way to make good, live action BE.

Lightfoot 10-20-2020 01:33 AM

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Just an update, the BEA forum seems to be fixed. Who knows if it will hold though.

fredzor 10-20-2020 05:47 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Blake Isaac Gordon (Post 842881)
Oh snap I had forgotten all about that.

Can you refresh my memory, how did that rule go?

I can't even remember the reason why the site had to implement it.

So, I believe you were permitted to post one image, in one post, on one thread, in a single day.

The conflict stemmed from moderators who would literally power trip over this stupid rule, and it ultimately led to some content creators being banned and/or leaving the site.

On top of that, that's when they started to force content creators to go behind the paywall to post their content. Subscription numbers actually plummeted.

NimrodClover 10-20-2020 05:28 PM

Re: Bearchive .com down ?
 
Yes, the BEA forum appears to be closer to its previous responsiveness.

Yes, when the BEA shifted more items (some previously free) to behind pay walls there was an impact.

Yes, the early BEA was rather different than what one sees today. Much more BE than now. Also, much less support and discussion of all manner of BE.

I will say that the whole 1-image, 1-post, 1-day thing has never seemed to be a real problem as the VAST MAJORITY (like 93.75%) of users do not post any images.

Well, now that it appears to be working a bit better. Let's go see if we can make it a bit more like the good-old-days. :)

BillPratt 10-20-2020 08:17 PM

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I posted an image once. An animated breast expansion morph. This was right about when I learned I wasn't very good at it.

Stuck to writing after that.

Prinz Eugen 10-21-2020 01:43 PM

Re: Bearchive .com down ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NimrodClover (Post 843281)
Yes, the BEA forum appears to be closer to its previous responsiveness.

Yes, when the BEA shifted more items (some previously free) to behind pay walls there was an impact.

Yes, the early BEA was rather different than what one sees today. Much more BE than now. Also, much less support and discussion of all manner of BE.

I will say that the whole 1-image, 1-post, 1-day thing has never seemed to be a real problem as the VAST MAJORITY (like 93.75%) of users do not post any images.

Well, now that it appears to be working a bit better. Let's go see if we can make it a bit more like the good-old-days. :)

I have always maintained some of my work over there... Then they messed up my membership...sigh.... I fondly remember the good old days..

fredzor 10-21-2020 02:31 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by NimrodClover (Post 843281)
Yes, the BEA forum appears to be closer to its previous responsiveness.

Yes, when the BEA shifted more items (some previously free) to behind pay walls there was an impact.

Yes, the early BEA was rather different than what one sees today. Much more BE than now. Also, much less support and discussion of all manner of BE.

I will say that the whole 1-image, 1-post, 1-day thing has never seemed to be a real problem as the VAST MAJORITY (like 93.75%) of users do not post any images.

Well, now that it appears to be working a bit better. Let's go see if we can make it a bit more like the good-old-days. :)

I agree that not many people were affected by the rule, and the issues didn't really stem from the rule at all, just how it was enforced. It honestly should have been a software/server side restriction and not something that needed to be policed by real people. The way the mods would aggressively go after people who also were the biggest content providers was kind of insane.

Blake Isaac Gordon 10-23-2020 04:22 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by fredzor (Post 843308)
...The way the mods would aggressively go after people who also were the biggest content providers was kind of insane.

I was curious has the Moderator scene at the Bearchive calmed down? I heard they could be swarm at a moments notice.

But in all seriousness, I remember some time ago where a 'disagreement' from there followed someone else to another BE type forum.

When I was still active I had a silly little habit of checking out the 'Banned' section on the general forum. Some of the reads were quite epic.

BillPratt 10-23-2020 09:36 PM

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You couldn't pay me to moderate a porn forum again. It went to shit on day 2 and got worse from there.

But you couldn't pay me to moderate any forum. Humans are just too fucking stupid to be believed. The sooner we exterminate the lot of them, the better.

Bareon 11-08-2020 01:19 PM

Re: Bearchive .com down ?
 
Well... if the old venues of content are going down... what do you think the next venues will be?
VR? Cause a lot of stuff can easily be done with toggles there.

NimrodClover 01-10-2021 01:51 AM

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Seems the forum is running super slow again around JAN 8th 2021 or just broken... hard to tell. Again - this is why I keep telling people to save any content that is significant or historic.

Blake Isaac Gordon 01-11-2021 07:29 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by NimrodClover (Post 845242)
Seems the forum is running super slow again around JAN 8th 2021 or just broken... hard to tell. Again - this is why I keep telling people to save any content that is significant or historic.

This makes we wonder if the site is still profitable? Is their rev stream to the point they can't do upkeep on the server(s)?

BustArtist 01-11-2021 07:42 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by NimrodClover (Post 845242)
Seems the forum is running super slow again around JAN 8th 2021 or just broken... hard to tell. Again - this is why I keep telling people to save any content that is significant or historic.

Took me a long time to make a post the other day. Click forum (wait a minute), enter password (wait a minute or 2), click New post (wait a minute), write post and submit (wait a few minutes)

Lightfoot 01-13-2021 03:06 AM

Re: Bearchive .com down ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Blake Isaac Gordon (Post 845293)
This makes we wonder if the site is still profitable? Is their rev stream to the point they can't do upkeep on the server(s)?

I didn't check this time, but last time it was only the forum that was slow. The rest of the site was fine. That would seem like it's a problem with the forum. Last time it seemed like it started when they purged all of the Chelsea Charms content, and it went away eventually.

I'd wonder if it's a software problem, unless it's a forum-only server that needs to be restarted every once in a while. It was something that appeared suddenly, and then went away suddenly.

Prinz Eugen 01-13-2021 06:13 AM

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I wondered what was going on again.... So sad

BillPratt 01-13-2021 07:51 PM

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Me, I've never been able to figure out what all this had to do with bears or chives.

Guard 01-13-2021 09:22 PM

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forums have largely been abandoned, so. makes sense

catfish27 01-13-2021 11:14 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BillPratt (Post 845403)
Me, I've never been able to figure out what all this had to do with bears or chives.

No, no, it's "Be Arc Hive," the premier site for people who want to transform into round houses for bees.

100Proof 01-14-2021 12:29 AM

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Speaking of which, does anyone know what happened to Palomine? I stopped posting there years ago put Palo was a good dude and he apparently just ghosted at some point. Do any of you old heads no where he went? Just hoping he's okay.

NimrodClover 01-15-2021 06:34 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Guard (Post 845405)
forums have largely been abandoned, so. makes sense

Actually Facebook, Reddit, and Instagram are all, by definition and set-up, FORUMS. So you may not know what you are using, but they are forums.

As of 2020:
Facebook had 1.69 billion users
Instagram had 1.0 billion users
Reddit had 330 million active users

forums have not been abandoned at all, people have just forgotten what they are and think what they are posting to are something else.

Sort of like saying, "I don't have a dog, but I do have a Pug."

Twitter, Snapchat, and Pintrest are not forums by definition. The first two are messaging applications and the last is a billboard service. All that leaves are feeds and static pages to round out what you encounter on-line.

Tugboatcap 01-15-2021 08:32 AM

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With all of the talk of the early BEA, I can't help but get all nostalgic and started thinking about Anthony Cotto's FTP site way back even before the BEA was nothing but a newsletter.

Yup. I'm old as dirt...LOL!

Buster Paxden 02-05-2021 08:27 PM

Re: Bearchive .com down ?
 
Are there features to the BEA that aren't present here on the Process Forum?

TheZookie007 09-05-2021 01:55 PM

Re: Bearchive .com down ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tugboatcap (Post 845520)
With all of the talk of the early BEA, I can't help but get all nostalgic and started thinking about Anthony Cotto's FTP site way back even before the BEA was nothing but a newsletter.

Yup. I'm old as dirt...LOL!

Good times...good times...

TheZookie007 09-05-2021 02:01 PM

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1 Attachment(s)
By the way, is the Be Arc Hive down for everyone or is it just me? For the past week and a half at least, I keep getting this:

catfish27 09-06-2021 10:09 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheZookie007 (Post 850628)
By the way, is the Be Arc Hive down for everyone or is it just me? For the past week and a half at least, I keep getting this:

They're moving some parts of the site to a new server, and they're apparently having particular issues with the Plume forum.

The Addventure has been (mostly) successfully moved, and it's now located here: https://addventure.bearchive.com/~addventure/

TheZookie007 09-07-2021 02:35 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by catfish27 (Post 850636)
They're moving some parts of the site to a new server, and they're apparently having particular issues with the Plume forum.

The Addventure has been (mostly) successfully moved, and it's now located here: https://addventure.bearchive.com/~addventure/

Thanks for the update!

OhZone 09-10-2021 10:24 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by catfish27 (Post 850636)
They're moving some parts of the site to a new server, and they're apparently having particular issues with the Plume forum.

The Addventure has been (mostly) successfully moved, and it's now located here: https://addventure.bearchive.com/~addventure/

Thank you for the new link. There is so much SW gold there believe it or not!

But it's gonna be hard to find stuff now.

I search google like this -
shrinking raspberry site:bearchive.com

And it gives an entry like this -
Search Results

Web results


Mitch's Blueberry: Jenna's Raspberry: Honestly Shrinking Rae

http://old.bearchive.com › ~addventure › game1 › docs

Nov 30, 2019 — Mitch's Blueberry: Jenna's Raspberry: Honestly Shrinking Rae. Unending BE - episode 1352728. Tags: height shr real Edit Tags.




But clicking that gets -

Not Found

The requested URL was not found on this server.


















But now I'll have to convert it to -
https :// addventure .bearchive.com

https://addventure.bearchive.com/~ad...2/1352728.html



Quote:

Originally Posted by BillPratt (Post 845403)
Me, I've never been able to figure out what all this had to do with bears or chives.


Ha. I just noticed this. You remind me of my new pun-ishing friend.

Anyway, that's kinda how I remember the url. Let me check bear chive.

catfish27 09-11-2021 10:09 PM

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Google should update the links... eventually.

OhZone 09-13-2021 12:10 PM

Re: Bearchive .com down ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by catfish27 (Post 850740)
Google should update the links... eventually.


google aint doing too well yet. yandex and duckduckgo are slightly better.

Or you can try the tag search. Good luck.

http://addventure.bearchive.com/~add...e1/docs?search


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