Things that you really dont like to see in a transformation.
 

Here's one for you lot.

what things dont you like seeing in a transformation?

lazy done "poof" where it just happens?

the sailor moon style with sparkly effects?

gore like skin and body parts coming off?(yeah really dont like Jeff Goldbum's fly tf)

breaking the laws of mass?(you cant just grow new body parts from thin air)

maybe you dont like the idea of someone losing their human mind as the change?

someone changing into something that isnt real.?(some folks really like mythical amimals. others cant get enough of pokémon tf's)


you dont like the way someone transforms?(rememer being asked to make the feet change but not have them bare.)


your thoughts? opinions?

*gets out Black book*

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Clothes changing with the person's body, or clothes that were destroyed during the transformation magically reappearing intact after the person returns to normal. A poof TF doesn't bother me if the clothes fall off in the same instant and end up on the floor, then they poof back naked later.

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There are many of them:
-The overuse of change of camera planes to artificially hide the TF. Fortunately we have here some relentless fellows (thank you to all of you) who are able to fix it and make a video reassembling the mess.
-Use of furniture/obstacles/whatever to hide the TF. Also, similar crap with no solution.
And my favourite:
-The trailer of an upcoming werewolf movie/series shows 5 seconds of a supposedly amazing werewolf TF. The show contains exactly five seconds of werewolf TF.

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Poof TFs, overly gory/bloody TFs (including skin ripping), clothes that magically reappear after the transformee regains human shape, 100% CGI TFs that look like they used computers from the early ‘90s, etc. Also, if I never hear or read a TF character ask, “What’s happening to me?” again, I’ll die a happy man.

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It depends, but I have a number of things I don't like; some of which aren't exclusive to TF but also apply to AR and SW:

-Clothes changing with the victim. I can be OK with poof TFs as long as the victim's clothes don't change with her and become oversized/torn, but if her clothes change with her, then it just becomes lazy.

-More often than not, gore and blood. Only on rare occasions can I tolerate it.

-Hiding the TF via various means; like furniture, camera changing, and stuff like that; it's so frustrating to not be able to see the TF.

-Any kind of permanency and other dark/bad stuff. That's not to say I dislike serious transformations (Though I much prefer light-hearted stuff), but it really bothers me when, to cite an example, an innocent person is transformed into a monster and then killed, or when the change is permanent.

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I have a few things that I don't like.

1: Instantaneous or poof TFs, I can understand these being in shows that the target audience is kids but in more adult stuff it just looks silly.

2: When the targets are under 18 years of age, nothing makes me nope out of there faster than seeing something like that among a bunch of images with naked adults in.

3: When things start going down the gross route, this where I group things like blood, gore and toilet stuff. this is actually one of my biggest issues with FA I could simply search donkey transformation and wind up seeing some dude turning donkey while also going to the bathroom sitting in the search results with no warning thumbnail in place.

4: Mind alterations, I hate this with a passion, when a person who transforms loses their mind completely that is when I shut off, that crap depresses me so much.

5: Feral Animals, I can't stand this either, when a story starts going down that route I back out.

6: Permanency really isn't for me either.

7: When a TF is blocked or obscured

8: When characters decide to narrate what we can see things like "My feet are changing" when we can see them changing, unless it's done in a documentation type of style having someone just narrate the changes after something causes them to change when they weren't expecting it feels silly

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1.) Complete mental changes, for me I need the character to, at the very least, be aware of the changes happening to them.

2.) Ending the story immediately after the transformation. This is a real pet peeve of mine and it always strikes me as a little lazy on the authors part. A characters post tf reaction to their new circumstances is a money dynamic and when it's summarized in the last paragraph as something like "and so-and-so remained a cow for the rest of their life..." that's what bugs me.

3.) Consensual TF's. Like... this is just me and I can understand the other point of view, but I really need the character to not want or enjoy being transformed.

I actually don't mind poof tf's at all as long as the newly transformed person has a good reaction to their new body.

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Yeah, this is my pet peeve.

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Skin ripping is an absolute nope.

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I feel most of my thoughts are similar to everyone, minus one big one:

• Poof TFs are just lazy. There's no other way to describe it. You don't have to drag the scene out for five whole minutes, but a 2-5 second poof is just a total waste.
• Partial TFs for the most part are just as much of a waste.
• I personally have never cared for much of anything anthro. That Killing Bites anime was particularly dissapointing as it had a ton of partial tfs and/or anthro tfs.
• Obstructing the TF with furniture, scenery, lighting, camera jumps, etc.
• TFs that lack a facial transformation (specifically muzzle growth). This one is massively a personal taste, as muzzle TFs are my absolute favorite aspect of a transformation
• Lack of sound. I want to hear bone cracking, moaning in pain, etc. It's just as much a part of the experience as anything

I'm actually in the minority in enjoying skin rip/gory transformations. Granted, I enjoy my TF material in general to be on the darker/horror side. I loved the Hemlock Grove transformation style, though I'll never forgive them for glossing over Christina's transformation, especially after how much they built it up. Also, Were-World on DeviantArt has been my favorite follow with his art style.

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What I usually don't like to see in a transformation:

- poof transformations without showing any real process

- slime/goo/paint/costume transformations (so, transformations where a person is changed by putting on a costume [e.g. a girl putting on a fursuit and turning into the suit she is wearing] or changed by goo/paint that is covering their body, etc.)

- like Tf-Viewer said: clothes that change with the body during a TF

- like Jbrey said: gross things that belong into the bathroom

- like Anahki said: TFs where the actual TF is hidden by camera angle/objects etc (usually applies to movies/TV shows and mainstream comics. Not art and stories of course)

- I'm not a big fan of Taur or Naga TFs either. Usually I prefer the subjects to keep 4 limbs. Though fish, whale or snake Tfs are okay for me.

- cheap and simple "claws & fangs & eyes" werewolfs. At least give them a short muzzle and some fur covering their face and arms, etc.

- TFs where the subject changing is already an anthro/animal (e.g an anthro wolf turning into an anthro sheep, etc.). I prefer the subjects to be human at the start of their transformation

What I like to see:

- detailled TFs showing the actual process (not poof or obscured)

- torn clothes or clothes sliding down the person’s body (if the person is shrinking during the TF)

- both: transformations into feral animals and anthros

- both: transformations with and without mental changes

- usually I prefer TFs where the person changing is not willingly changing (so, I prefer when people are transformed by a curse or by accident or by someone who wants to get their revenge on them, etc.). I enjoy seeing them struggle at first.

- I love muzzle, tail and fur/scale growth during a TF

- I mostly enjoy seeing people turning into mammals & dragons (though fish, whales and other reptiles are okay too)


I'm indifferent about skin ripping, though. I don't hate it if a TF shows it (it's better than no TF at all or a simple poof IMO), but it's nothing I'm hyped about either.

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one other thing I forgot that I just remembered that I don't like is reality alterations that seriously kills every fun aspect of a TF it removes all the interactions that come with a TF such as questions about what happened and finding excuses to explain the changes.

I hate it when a character witnesses a change and then just shrugs it all off as normal

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Just to echo a few other posts:

- Clothing that changes with the TF and that repairs itself during the revert. That said, there are exceptions. If clothing magically transforms into a new outfit, I'm okay with that.
- Skin rippage in which someone's outer layer of skin rips to reveal fur underneath. Fur should grow from hair follicles, as far as I'm concerned. However, I'm not entirely against skin rippage depending on the species. For example, arthropods tend to molt, so skin rippage seems kind of appropriate with arthropod TFs.
- Inanimate TFs. Doesn't appeal to me as a fetish. I won't say I _dislike_ them because they might work well as a plot element in a story, but I wouldn't be interested in a TF comic where that's the main feature.
- Scat/urine/farts, etc... Not sexy. To me anyway. To each their own, I guess.
- Underage subjects. I'd even go further to say, the "barely legal" category also creeps me out.

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My pet peeves about transformation media in general

#1 Werewolf or were creature characters in post transformation form and stay in that form (scooby-doo's school for ghoul and hotel Transylvanian)

#2 Characters that only have transforming body parts: hands, feet, tail, ears (Princess Resurrection)

#3 Lack of creativity in cartoon and animation! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BU41WngBYW0 when an flash game create better transform sequences using still images and sound effects than an very elaborate and expense cartoon than you have problems.

#4 ignoring an certain fan base! Shows and movies will cater more to people who into feet, weight gain, muscles growth,etc than furry and transform fetishes!

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Poof tf ,animal heads on humans, reversed knees and furry tf of one furry into another.

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Human ears and animal ears at the same time

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a good tail growth with detail is very welcome XD

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Re-read the thread topic, please.

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As others have opined, *Poof!* TFs are lazy and boring 95% of the time. It's only in very rare occasions where the effortlessness (or comedic value) of the TF is being played up that they're acceptable.

I'm not big into arbitrary "popular" TF aspects being shoehorned in, either. "Futa's popular? I guess I'll add a dick to the TF for no reason!"

Edit:
Rather than making a new post, I'll add that TFs that are implied to be self-inserts when they really have no reason to be are grating.

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-Poofs (nuff said).

-Extreme gore (Talking Mortal Kombat X fatality levels of gore here. Im ok with some blood and even in some degree with skin rip).

-Extreme muscle gain (Unless it is a creature meant to be like that, such as FF Behemoths)

-Extreme weight gain (Talking Blob from Xmen comics levels of fat here)

-Inanimated TFs (Boring).

-Clothing that changes with the TF without any explanation and/or later reappears as if nothing happened (unless its for SFW reasons and obvious "well come on man..." cases like Hulk and his amazing indestructable shorts!).

-Anything Pregancy-related (... AvP2 left me traumatized).

-Goo-slime-rubber type TFs (hey Venom is awesome but not as a TF appeal).

-Fursuit-merge kind of TFs (Unless it is extremely well detailed I guess?).

-Extremely weird TFs that I am not sure if they count as Inanimated TFs ("Oh no, the full moon is out! Guess I will turn into a WereCar! beep beep!" or "Welp, time to become a giant floppy detached penis with balls thing now!").

-Melting-Death TFs (If they can even be called TFs).

-COCKROACH TFS. FUCK COCKROACHES. NO. BAD TF, BAD!

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• *POOF!*/Obscuring Mist effects. I’d take a silhouette shot any day; at least you can see SOMETHING there.
• Clothing magically accomodating to the individual during the TF/revert process under non-magical means. (80s Hulk & She-Hulk, Nanami Kiryuu...maybe.)
• Skin-ripping TF. Not so much for the gore, mind you; I just don’t think “wolf-in-sheep’s-clothing” should be taken so literally. “Trick ‘R Treat” might be one of the few exceptions to this.
• Sudden mental/psychological shift. “When in Rome...” shouldn’t be your go-to excuse. :p
• Reversed joints.
• Sudden, massive, and near-instantaneous increase/decrease in mass with no explanation. RE6’s Derek Simmons is an excelent example for this, transforming from a humanoid form into larger, complex creatures in a matter of seconds in a universe where TFs were (usually) one-way monstrousity trips and reversing it took longer than a few seconds.
• This, particularly the head TF (everything else was fine): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvmaiPK-rmU

Never seen many TFs that do this, but it's still quite confusing on its own.

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Omg this one annoys me, sequences that start with a human and the very next picture is an almost fully transformed anthro and then it’s another 3 images of that anthro ��

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oop sorry hehe.
i hate poofs and offscreen tfs and tfs that dont show all FX and miss some parts like ears and tails :)

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Echoing a lot of what's been said already, poofs and excessive gore. A willed or understood transformation also just isn't my thing, I'm in it for that sense of alienation and confusion (honestly, the whole "what's happening to me?" shtick is what I live for). I'm also not a fan of designs and art that don't seem to understand the basic anatomy of the subjects involved, I really don't get how skin rips are even supposed to work.

Mental changes are another thing, personally, I like the subjects to be cognizant of their own changes and to realize something's amiss. There are certain exceptions to this rule-- I'm particularly a fan of this board's very own LycanDope, whose stories usually feature characters who are busy enough doing other things that they can't really respond to how their changing effectively, but they certainly know that something is off.

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I hate when the process is inconsistent or illogical. Like her body is completely changed but her face isnt. Having fast changes and then it slows down. Like in that lost girl
Cat episode.


Also when they put the actress in hours of makeup for 2 seconds of a shot

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Skin ripping, teeth/nails falling out with lots of blood. I can't stand it.

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Merging legs together to make a snake. That's anatomically baffling, although if you've got a bondage kink, I get the appeal. Also applies to mermaids, even if there's no canonical mermaid anatomy I just think it's inelegant.

Also TF into a primate. I just think it's boring, we're already monkeys.

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Too much gore, or grotesqueness.

Completely or almost completely animal/whatever head on a body that is otherwise a mid-range mix of human and other form, I'm looking at you, 90% of werewolves and anthros. (Altered Beast gets a pass, because it's Altered Beast https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzC7jzA1nwc ).

Forms that are extremely non-humanoid, loss of hands, arms etc, though sometimes some lower-body is acceptable, mermaids, nagas, drider etc. There are other exceptions, especially for comedic effect.

A lack of any mental changes. I always feel like the mind should be influenced to some degree by the transformation. There are exceptions.

Complete mental change with no trace of previous identity remaining. (Personality, memories, awareness of previous state, continuity of consciousness of self, if nothing of these remains the transformation seems pointless to me).

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In a written TF scene, too many adverbs can ruin it and weaken the language. Instead a stronger verb should be used.

For example, instead of saying: "Danielle's feet slowly grew to twice their length; It was very painful," say "Danielle's feet stretched to twice their length; the pain was excruciating."

I also think "suddenly" is one of the most overused adverbs in all of TF fiction. "Suddenly, the pain hit her," or "suddenly the changes stopped." It's not needed.

I'll also be the first to admit I'm a horrible offender when it comes to this. So from here on out, no more adverbs in TFs.

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Not a popular opinion around here, but strong focus on the feet is a massive turn-off for me.

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A strong focus on feet? Now who wpuld.do a thing like that?:p

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I have some things that immediately take me out of a transformation.

#1: Feet. I can understand including them in the description for completion's sake, but they don't appeal to me in the least. I can deal with hooves or paws, but just a quick shift description is all I need. I prefer it even more if the "burst out of the shoes" method is used (I'm the one Jimbo was referring to earlier). This might be part of the reason why I don't care for tauric creatures.

#2: Werecreatures who know what they are and forget when the full moon is. "Oh no, I forgot it was a full moon tonight!" I don't care what else you have going on in your life, the instant you realize that you turn into a mythical beast person three nights every month, those three nights become the pivotal points of your schedule. Get someone else to cover your shift at Burger King or sub for the freakin' bowling league. Please, shift responsibly.

#3: In a similar vein, werecreatures that are described as "turning into a were(whatever)." I could see this description applying the first time they've ever shifted, but after that, I've always looked at it as "they stopped being human the instant they were infected." I prefer to say they "changed forms" or "returned to (werecreature/human) shape." I also don't care for werecreatures who don't at least have some reflections in their human form (better senses/reflexes, a taste for raw meat, etc).

#4: Skin ripping, nails and teeth splitting or falling out, hair falling out, blood and gore, etc.

#5: The phrase "reversed knees." They are not reversed knees, they are risen ankles. Xavier: Renegade Angel had reversed knees.

#6: Goo, paint, or suit TF's (exception: If the victim is becoming a slime or goo creature, then goo as the impetus is perfect).

#7: Furries/aliens/general non-humans as TF subjects (elves are an exception for me). The whole idea of TF to me is to make humans something more special. Furries/etc are already something unique, why change them?

#8: In TF video games, any automatic TF that happens solely because you went in the wrong direction. I'm not afraid to admit that I'll Save Scum to avoid becoming a creature I don't like. I didn't like dying by simply moving onto the construction site in Deja Vu, either.

#9: Poof TF's, and TF's shown entirely in shadow. Show, don't tell.

#10: Anthro animal TF's without muzzles or tails. This also includes things like werewolves that have the eyes, ears, claws, and fangs, and call it a day. Teen Wolves, basically. If you're going to do it, commit.

There's probably a couple things I've forgotten at the moment. I'm sure they'll spring back to mind as soon as I see them.

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1. Gore - I'm for the changes not the body horror.
2. Immobility - Part of the TF for me is what's done after the transformation. An immobile object does nothing.
3. Attribute theft - After a TF I went there to be more of something unusual, not a musical chairs of unusual
4 . Too high a ratio of animal to human - For animal TFs I don't like when the subject is less than two-thirds human. I much prefer an animalistic human than an animal with some human traits.

One thing a few folks mentioned not liking that I do like is transformation of clothes along with the body transformation. It's goofy but I really enjoy it.

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I definitely agree with poof or offscreen tfs. Its even worse when they tease a tf scenario, only for the subject to be tf'd when we next see them (I'm looking at you, Simpson's Halloween special that parodied the Island of Dr Moreau).

I also am annoyed with the 'shopping list' mode of writing (his tail grew, then his muzzle grew, etc). It feels lazy and rushed and sucks the eroticism out of the change.

I personally like personality changes, but not if it comes at the cost of killing the previous identity and treated as a happy ending. If its two personalities sharing the one body, or the new identity is sort of the subconscious persona thats been suppressed, then I find it less offensive.

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Really well done, detailed, long drawn out tfs of men. It's 100% a personal thing but it always bums me out that they couldn't put this much effort into a woman transforming.

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Not just me then.

I swear some TF stories have so much focus on the feet that the werewolf aspect seems secondary to it.

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Yeah, I guess that's another turn off. For me, anyway - totally a matter of taste.

And on that note, any sort of fetish that isn't one of mine tends to be a turn-off. I'm not into pregnancy, age progression/regression, TG, latex and a whole host of other things. Some things, like a focus on feet or lactation can be a turn-off but I can ignore them if I like the other aspects of the TF.

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Haha, yeah. It's a shame because you're a really excellent writer but I'm usually unable to get into your stories for the above reason. Not that that's a problem for me, of course! Different strokes for different folks and it's good that the foot guys are getting catered to.

I am surprised though to see that a decent chunk of people seem to agree with me. There's so much foot focused stuff around that I tend to assume I'm a small, small minority. It's honestly why I wrote what I did; I basically couldn't find stuff that I wanted, so I started to make it. Unfortunately though my own stories probably aren't as enjoyable for me as they are for everyone else who's into them.

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Count me in too. Sometimes people push things to a level that is off-putting.

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Oh, boy.

-Futanari. I really hate when you end up with a wolfgirl with breasts the size of cantaloupes and a dick that could put a horse to shame.
-Skin rippage. It's cheap.
-Poof TFs.
-Monstergirl TFs. Give me terrifying monsters, don't give me anime girls with accessory tails or spider legs.
-Quick TFs without context. It's a pet peeve of mine, adding context and fluff to stories. I hate reading something like "here's Mary, now she's a werewolf with huge tits, done!"
-When a character doesn't go through mental changes. I mean, they're transforming into something that's not human, they should adopt at least some predatory, animalistic or territorial traits in the process.
-TFs with weird, exaggerated anime expressions.

I'm pretty cool with male TFs, identity loss and reality alteration, tho.

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...We can't be friends.:(

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Agreed on latex and pregnancy, can't believe I forgot those. Maybe I've tried harder than I thought to put them out of my mind.

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I get cringing with the skin coming off when transforming. I couldn't even watch my favorite film Trick R' Treat without seeing the werewolf transformation scene.

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I don't like skin ripping or shedding either.

In addition to the grossness, it reduces the sense of actual transformation for me. It's like something else is bursting out from the inside, rather than someone being altered and remolded.

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Here's one I don't like: 99% feral transformation with still human breasts.

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Heh, I have a story that almost has that problem, but then doesn't.
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/23429936/

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When I'm making feet or hands change in my sequence I try to make it happen in 4 to 8 panels.(shoe getting too small for the foot, the shoe splits or pops open. then the foot takes on the characteristics of said creature) feet are important to humans. suddenly having hooves or paws lots of the time leads to them falling over if they are standing or dont have something to lean on. it needs to be shown.

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By that logic you should spend most of your time focusing on the shoulder blades and pelvis. That's where most of the major structural change happens between humans and animals.

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There isn't a word for this yet but i'm going to say intelligence draining, specifically it's basically mind change only your intelligence dwindles as you either turn into a bimbo or a dumb-brute, especially when it's forced like in the case of Bluman08's RPs. Also i'm a stickler for accuracy when it comes to Pokemon related transformations and what really irks me me is what I call mismatched Poke-pairings which is two Pokemon that aren't even the same type or not even in the same egg group being shipped, like for example Machamp and Charizard. Yeah, one of those two is a flying type or at least half flying, that relationship isn't going to last well. Also cloning transformations that involve muscular anthro dudes turning people into their clones, and just about anything involving Puro...but that's basically just the kind of transformations I dislike.

Also the dreaded world domination ending, especially if it's a character we're supposed to route for, this is especially a pain in the ass if the character is the one the person is playing as in an RP because in a way it contradicts everything you've learned about this character. We've been supposedly attempting to relate to this guy only for this guy to decide 'screw humanity i'm going to be evil' and doom everyone into being non-human forever?