[insomniac]

It's quite a simple question. Yet, as we delve deeper into the meaning of the terms Age Regression and Age Progression, we find everything becomes, well, not so simple.

Age Regression, it seems to this community, is the process in which a female becomes a younger version of herself. The amount of age lost is a large variable. Most of the time, it seems to be more than ten years of age. An average ending age isn't too definable other than "before puberty."

Mentally, most of the pictures created by users have the woman still retaining her adult mind, making the act of regressing often a sad, scary affair. Other times, her mind also regresses, removing most, if not all, of the old memories she once had.

Sex with a regressed woman, I think, should be put right along as part of the AR issue. Whether it is in the pictures or not, even if it is suggested or not.

The reason it should be right along with it is because even the other people on this forum can clearly see the pedophilic lines drawn with every image and manga submitted.

To have these images here is a mixed feeling in my mind. I have AR stored on my computer. Every time I browse past that folder, I ask myself, should I really have that folder? Why am I really looking at these images? Is there some subconscious part of me that wants to have sex with those now-underaged women? I'd like to think not.


Age Progression, as it seems to this community, is taking a young woman, usually before puberty or before she is of the average legal age of 18, and turning the clock forward until she is usually in her prime, most sexually ripe stage.

Often, clothes are ripped because only her physical body is changed. Nudity ensues. She often does not mentally progress as well. She may have wanted these changes for various reasons, and now she is going to achieve whatever goal she had in mind with this new older body, whatever that goal may be.

When the woman does mentally progress, it is often to the extent that she no longer is unknowing of what many real-world things are. In a lot of mangas, she knows what sex is now. She knows what to do in various situations. Some times, she might even be slightly concerned about finances, for cripes sake.

The issue here is two fold. The first is, is it okay because she is now mentally and physically older? Is this not the same as regular sex, because she is now a woman in every sense of the word? But if that were the case, if you take the AP out, are you left with just a picture of a woman, and not a girl?

The other issue is if she isn't older in her mind. Is this okay, because her body is not young even though her mind is? If you were to remove whatever element to suggest she is still young in her mind, would you be able to tell she was once, for instance, a 10 year old girl?


I'm not sure if this thread will spark a debate and I don't want to turn this into a flame war. I'm not calling out a single person. I just want to deeply, humanely, thoughtfully, and honestly discuss the issues related to AR/AP, and as a whole maybe come to some conclusion as to whether or not we should have it here. I know that this is not my site. It's Lorekeep's. But I also know that we as a whole are a community. I want to see this site continue just as much as Lorekeep does. I want to see content that I'm interested in. We all do. This is not a call to end AR/AP on the internet. I've tried to lay out some questions we should ask ourselves, but I encourage everyone to find more angles than what I have. I'm sure there are more that I haven't thought of. We need to all understand what AR/AP is and come to a conclusion about it.


From here on in this post, this is my opinion on the matter.

To put it bluntly, this is because someone posted a link to some cub porn that is at FurAffinity. To those who do not know, cub porn is essentially sex (or suggestive pictures of) with underage furry characters. The sequence posted depicted a woman having sex with her son, and regressing throughout the sequence.

I don't want to call out that single sequence, however. I don't want to call out that poster either. It made me look at AR and AP as a whole.

In the end I have to say that I don't want AR and AP here. I know I can't change that. I'm not a mod and I'm not Lorekeep. I know that he doesn't have to listen to me.

I know for a fact that any AR image can instantly make someone think you are a pedophile. I've seen it happen. To be honest, I don't blame them. Most of the things posted are, no matter how we try to dodge around it, are pedophilic. I have AR and AP on my computer. I have honestly come to the conclusion, after nearly 10 years of looking at it, that I don't want it and I'm going to stop. It's not worth the risk of someone finding it. Be it a family member, or hell, a law enforcement official.

By now you're saying "well dumbass, if you don't want it, don't look at it." Quite true. Whether or not this discussion leads to the deletion of the AR/AP section, I won't look at it anymore. But, I really don't want any of those nasty things to happen to any of us. Just one image can ruin a marriage. It can expose someone and downright ruin their lives.

Those who look at AR and AP will often tell you that it's okay because none of those people are real. They are just pixels on a screen. It's harmless because none of it involves real people.

So, along those lines, can I make a picture of a ton of underage, regressed girls having sex with each other and you'd tell me it's okay because in no way would I ever think about those girls being real, right? I mean, as long as they are mentally over the age of 18, it's okay, right? Or is it okay too if they are not over 18 in their minds because even though the image doesn't suggest it they will be adults again soon?

Nevermind the sex. Lets just talk about a woman going up or down in age. Is it really okay if she was underage and got older? Just because she is 25 now, it's okay to look at her even though not five minutes ago she was thinking about playing with barbies and having a sleepover?

Personally, I want to see the AR/AP section go because I'm worried that something is going to happen with the AR/AP community as a whole and this site will simply join a long list that gets paraded around as a bunch of freaking pedophiles and it would only be a matter of time before all of us, whether we look at the AR/AP section or not, are revealed and labeled as a bunch of child molesting freaks. I don't even blame anyone here for having the fetish. You like it and that's fine. I thought I liked it, but not any more. I don't want to see all of us go down.

Think of it this way. An underage girl enters a bar. Maybe some of them know she's just a little underage. Someone takes her upstairs and has sex with her. Then, the cops bust in. At some point, they are all going to have to deal with the fact that <i>they let it happen.</i> They will all be thrown in front of the cameras, with everyone thinking that they are all part of some freakish child porn ring. Sure, you can say, who cares what other people think. But really, it does matter when you lose your job a few weeks later over some bullshit reason, but deep down you know why. You could be completely innocent, but you were there, and you let it happen.

I'm not going to say this won't happen. It has every probability that some day it will. I truly and honestly just don't want to see us get caught up in it when it does happen. At the least we could say, we got rid of that. We stopped it. We don't have to flame and ban and abandon everyone on the AR/AP board. Just kindly ask them to post elsewhere.