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Unread 03-19-2008   #94
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Re: BE Story Club Presents: Spells R Us #4

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I’m not going to sit and let this thread end 'as is'… For those new to this thread. I will now talk some 'smack'. If you do not like 'smack' or if 'smack' is not approved by the sites Admins... Please ignore/fix this post...

Story wise, eh... not my cup of tea.

See this comment right here… I’m gonna call BS. Gabe you are the Story Club Director. You have to defer to Taylor’s final decision, but you are the Director. Anything the BESC releases is a DIRECT reflection of the BESC. SRU Dream Girl is not a COMPLETE 'black hole' of sexual derangement... it has moments. SRU Dream girl had conflict galore. Even on issue four the parents arrived and comforted their little girl. BUT you, Gabe, need to take responsibility for it. I can pardon Prophet Ten, for he never saw a script, but you did. You gave it the green light, this is your suit- wear it.
And how did he not just take responsibility? He explained his reasons for why he put the story out, and I for one agree with him. At the very least, this will serve as a lesson for future works. If people feel gypped, they should have gotten Unstable Assets #1 on the same month of subscription. So maybe those cancel each other out. But there's still all the other content on the website that makes it worth to subscribe at least for a month.

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…it bothers me to see people accusing the Story Club staff (including our editor Prophet) as being misogynists.

Its funny you should say that. BE by its very nature places women in a somewhat ‘Objectification role.’ It doesn’t take much to put things into a real bad light. For BESC defense I have not talked with Anonymoose, or seen a SRU Dream Girl script, or even understand what the whole SRU ‘story collective’ is, but I need to make a point. Just because your customer base demands it does not mean you have to do it. If you put out a bunch of stories where the various characters consisting of Minority Women have the basic line of: “I sure luv cock! All I want to do is…” and then you have numerous female blond characters being CEOs, engineers, scientists, and other intellectual heroes saving the day and fighting evil while having respectable sexual relations… People are going to start to read between the lines. So don’t try and explain things away with such a tidy paragraph answer. BESC is what it publishes. (PS I've read some of Ten's stories... I know what he stands for...)
Just like I'm reading between the lines of what you write. I think you're reading *way* too much into this. Shall they start putting a disclaimer on their work "the views expressed by this comic are not representative of those of the BESC."? They were pressured to release Spells R' Us #4, and the circumstances of the situation dictated it go out like this. But I'm hoping it is more representative of the BESC the stuff I produce for them and they publish.

BTW, if you've read Tenebrae's stories, then did you enjoy them? If not, why? Please do not use "I didn't agree with the views expressed in the work of fiction by the author." That's a really damned good starting point.

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I mentioned Laelia fiction because his work has class. Everyone one of his characters has depth, motivations, and strong sexual urges. And I bet there wouldn't be... lets say... Nazis... And if there where the main female hero would use her 'Nipples of Justice' to defeat the Third Reich.
That's twice you've inferred Nazis. So either you're Republican or a guest commentator on Fox News. In any case it's never cool to so casually toss around such a insult. Might I recommend a better example of who to avoid? Ike Turner.

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If you don't like a story you have every right to bash it, it actually helps me find authors who cater to the general consensus and find themes members will enjoy. But why turn it into a personal vendetta?

I’ll tell you why I have a vendetta. I submitted ‘Magic Chocolate Drink’ for the BESC story contest. I won third and I believe that my entry would have 9 images… Guess what- there are only five… Where the heck are the other four? It’s a WOW story and it has no WOW images. I really cannot say I want to submit anything to BESC again for that very reason. It boils down to how things are run. Leviathan was the fist BESC editor...but in time he bailed. I cannot give a direct quote, but from what I head he said it was the communication... I'll tell you right now, by my perception, the BE author pool is drying up. Either take steps of 'conservation' or learn to do without.
Oh ho ho! It's personal! That just colors everything you wrote and adds that certain air of authenticity and bullshit. I wouldn't want you to submit anything to BESC anyway if you can't even come up with an original concept for a story on there and have to use someone else's I.P. As far as a lack of authors, I don't really think that is the problem. Not as bad as a lack of artists.

BTW, what you believe and what was said would be done are two very different things, and is also private business you should be taking up with the involved parties instead of spewing personally-motivated hate speech on my forum.

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BESC is a COMMERCIAL WEB site... it gets $$$ from people who pay to see content. Gabe, take responsibility for such content. I know I will take responsibility for mine.
Yeah Gabe, take responsibility for my content.

And, what content are you taking responsibility for? This rant? Shit.
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