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What? I don't know what leap you made to get to this, but that's not what I'm saying at all. Of course I value things. I value lots of things. But i do so from a subjective standpoint. None of the things I value has any self-generated "value" or "worth." The only value they have depends on the person doing the valuing. And self esteem IS pointless, since you're going to die alone anyway.
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Ok I see what you mean, I apologize I should have read your post more indepth. I took the meaning to be "subjective is worthless"
Well I see what you're driving towards. But why?
I understand when you take away opinions then nothing means anything. They are just a collection of equal actions and reactions with measurable values and nothing beyond that.
To that I say:
Who cares?
You want to live in a world where all we see if the base value of things and give no deeper meaning to it? Part of life is two people taking away different veiw points from the same event and then either accpeting and learning from one another or just disagreeing over it. I'm glad we have subjective values to the world because it makes it that subjective thing called fun.
So long as you still include the facts in your opinions I have no problem with the world being subjective. True there are
many times when we need to ignore opinions and work solely on facts and I should hope at least some of us are capable of that.
Now I understand you may only be making the argument that we can't say all life has meaning. And in your reasoning that is true. But thats just it,
your reasoning. Most of the people on here have the reasoning that since we value life in itself, then everyone has value just for being alive.
I reason this by seeing that life is presious because one it's gone there is nothingness. I have religious beliefs too but for the sake of argument we'll say after you die there is nothing. Compaired to nothingness, life is definitly
something and it takes a lot of balls to play god and send someone to that nothingness. Life has meaning to me becuase it has potential too. You can say Lincon's life had value because of his actions as president. But he wasn't born president and he didn't do these things till late in his life. If someone with the notion that life without action is meaningless had been given the choice to take his life before this may have ended his life before he became "valueble" and thus a great man would never have been.
So to me, the "somethingness" of life and the potential of life give it base meaning.