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Originally Posted by Hellstromm, Son of Satan
I am wondering exactly WHEN does budthedog think the war will end...
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I'm wondering when you'll open your eyes and takes facts into account before jumping on extreme bandwagons and reciting baseless claims of overly optimistic outcomes that you can't predict because you failed the first step in doing so which was taking facts into consideration.
Facts:
Politicians tell you what you want to hear in cleverly worded statements that allow them for wiggle room so they can say what everyone wants, then do something similar but not quite the same and say it was the only way, or that [insert scapegoat here] wouldn't allow them to keep their promise due to pressure.
The war in Iraq is far from over, many more will die, many more will still lose their lives fighting in place of the over paid Iraqi government which is reluctant to take control of their own country. Some troops will return home yes but they will not all be shipped back on January 21 the day after Obama takes office. Many will remain to maintain the peace in that country until the government there takes their place with their own soldiers which will take quite some time I'm sure.
The war in Afghanistan has also got a long ways to go. As in Iraq, terrorists and militant groups are seizing control of many areas and preaching general violence against the rest of the world. It's that sad truth that these groups are taking innocent young men and wiping them into a frenzy directing all their misplaced anger on people these groups claim to be their religious enemies. They have them believe their causes are pure and just holy missions meaning their fighters aren't just some "evil bad guy" these are young men who won't just sit back after the American and NATO troops leave but rather continue to take out their aggression on the rest of the world after we withdraw as the people who got them so worked up in the first place send them out into the "world of the infidels" to carry on the holy mission. Until these people are stopped from warping the young minds of any country there will be a need for troops in these countries.
Obama's policies and ideas for stimulating this economy are risky some of which seem a little to optimistic. He was still a better choice than McCain (opinion not fact) But that doesn't mean he's the "right choice". He is in the precarious situation of being the first black president, a fact that he needs to overcome. In the end he needs to be remembered for his actions in office first and the fact he was the first black president second. It would be a sad state of affairs if the first thing the history books refer to him as "the first black president" as apposed to some accomplishment he pioneered in office.
To call him true change or a new era for the white house is also going to far. He may have different beginnings but he shares many similarities with McCain and all other politicians. He was in Skull and Cross Bones, he's played the politics game for years, he's the figure head, the democratic face his party picked based more on his charm and appeal rather than who he is as a person.
Most presidential elections are like being offered fruit, you can't have the fruit you want but you can pick from the two they offer you.
I peg you as the kind of person who called bush evil or said he's only in it for the oil. Fact (opinion) is Bush was a dumb patsy figure head acting in Cheney's, his father's, and numerous members of the republican party's place. Calling him evil just makes you the kind of mindless nutcase who has few opinions of their own and just repeat the popular shouts of others in your party/ political niche.
I'm sorry for coming off as insulting here but your blind following of popular opinion and over reaction to people disagreeing with you by labling them as generic republican slander is the reason this country is in bad shape, same goes for republicans who do it to the left and democrats. We're becomign a nation of Rush Limbaugh's who just spout nonsense and call it hard evidence then shut our ears to anyone who tries to disagree with us.
If you want to argue with me on any of these points feel free but leave the slander out of it and please don't just give me optimistic outcomes of Obama being president.