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Originally Posted by Illun
Funny thing, that. Some of us would have supported it even if it wasn't "patriotic". I'm thankful I live in a country where the people who think they know how things out to be run with little to no experience leading anything generally don't have the power to force their will on the rest of us.
There is a huge difference between supporting and being a sycophant. You can disagree with his actions all you want, but if your idea of "doing what's right" is to sit around all day calling your leader an idiot because of a southern accent and a few quotes sent around on blogs and email, half of which weren't even from him, then yes, that's where I would support him. When you complain "Oh my, he agrees with his party on hotbutton political issues, how horrible!", that's where I would support him. When he's being attacked for standing for all the things Europe, China and other nations hate about the US, that's where I would support him. And yes, when he makes a hard decision that the nation is divided on, then I sure as hell would support him.
We're not talking about unethical decisions. We're talking about things that you don't like because it doesn't suit your partisan viewpoint. Debate the action, press for change, press your agenda, but don't attack the President for simply disagreeing with you. That's not patriotic, unpatriotic or anything else but childish.
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Well, I think it's great you want to support your president no matter what as you suggested in your earlier post. Or do I? Well, I get your point that he has a hard time ahead and we should roll up our sleeves as you say.
But I think you fail to understand why a lot of people dislike W. It's not just because he's just an idiot with a southern accent or a few quotes sent around on blogs and email, which, in fact, WERE from him. (You are in major denial if you think they weren't. google "bushisms.") The major reason most people came to dislike him, (and this includes my far right republican relatives) is his incompetence, and, YES, his unethical decisions. Brimming over with unethical decisions. I think it is SUPREMELY unethical, immoral, and simply EVIL, to invade a country that was no threat to us based on cooked intel. This is simply MASS MURDER. What the heck is more unethical than mass murder? And I'm not even touching breaking the Geneva conventions or going against Constitutional protections.