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Originally Posted by polarkrackin
My extreme example of what? I left it open ended. I said if we put someone in a situation where they had to make a choice I predicted they would make the same choice over and over if they could not add to their history. So just to spell it out to you, it could be innocuous and simple. Three playing cards laying face down. We ask him to pick one. He picks the middle one. We replicate the situation to the perfect degree and ask him once his history is control for, and ask him again. If he does again and again and again... what does that mean? The level of control required is the only thing that is extreme. For me to say that I can create an environment in which he will absorb his environment the same way over and over sure is questionable. Let's imagine he is about to make his choice. He looks at me, he looks at the cards, he looks at me again, then chooses. Then the next time, he looks at me and then the cards and picks without looking at me again. Suddenly I realize a portion of the control has been lost.
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Then I will leave you with this. You are basing your "experiment" on the belief that free will is choosing something different. (Picking the same card would be proof to you) but as I continue to inform you over and over and over again THAT.... IS.....NOT...... FREE WILL. Free will is the ability to do so your experiment wouldn't determine anything whether or not the subject picked the same card four hundred times or a different one four hundred times. That would be merely showing the out come of free will or a lack there of if you decide to falsely believe. To actually see if free will exists you would have to find out if they have the ability to pick a different card and that is quite impossible.
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The Qur'an is horrifying, as are the New and Old Testement. Otherwise good people can be made to condone and perform heinous acts in the name of religion.
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Oh do tell the new Testament has horrifying parts in it? Please post these horrible parts as you have a tendency to come up with some pretty wacky posts without actually reading the bit your commenting on.
Edit: My money is on either Revelations or the letters of Paul. Mentioning either will betray your ignorance of the Bible.