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DalekSec · 10-18-2009

Not a MATTER of "Law" but philosophy I admit. Remember, once upon a time, a human with dark skin had no "Rights" and was considered not quite human.

My point is that words mean things and ideas matter. While I am not a Christian, Jew or Muslim (Or much else than a confused possible Pagan or Militant Amish PERHAPS), the removal of the divine has consequences. One of which is to remove the very source (As the Founding Father recognized it and TERMED it) of all the rights we enjoy. Yes, one can rightly argue that codified law is codified law and even if we remove all references to the divine, or outlaw religion all together, it is still, codified law. However, what is that codified law regarding rights based on at that point? Aside from our desire to believe we still enjoy rights endowed to us by nothing in particular.

Lastly, and here is where it gets rather icky for many, once you remove “Creator” from the equation, the only possible sources of our rights are nature (Which tends to be silent) and Govt. (Which tends to be not so silent) . You have then, replaced the Creator (God) with Govt. Spooky don’t you think?

10-18-2009	#120
DalekSec Goliath is Online. Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Skaro Posts: 1,998	Re: Conservatives Hate Obama More Than They Love America Not a MATTER of "Law" but philosophy I admit. Remember, once upon a time, a human with dark skin had no "Rights" and was considered not quite human. My point is that words mean things and ideas matter. While I am not a Christian, Jew or Muslim (Or much else than a confused possible Pagan or Militant Amish PERHAPS), the removal of the divine has consequences. One of which is to remove the very source (As the Founding Father recognized it and TERMED it) of all the rights we enjoy. Yes, one can rightly argue that codified law is codified law and even if we remove all references to the divine, or outlaw religion all together, it is still, codified law. However, what is that codified law regarding rights based on at that point? Aside from our desire to believe we still enjoy rights endowed to us by nothing in particular. Lastly, and here is where it gets rather icky for many, once you remove “Creator” from the equation, the only possible sources of our rights are nature (Which tends to be silent) and Govt. (Which tends to be not so silent) . You have then, replaced the Creator (God) with Govt. Spooky don’t you think? __________________