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Unread 10-22-2009   #158
Rachel Bronwyn
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Re: Conservatives Hate Obama More Than They Love America

You two are fucking hilarious. Seriously. I won't side with either of you or even participate in your discussion but watching you two communicate is hysterical. Neither is capable of not pushing the other's buttons.

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Originally Posted by kia252 View Post
Humor aside, what's you standard for what "matters." I hope I'm not out of line pulling from your context to think you mean military and economic power are what makes a nation "matter." While this is not to say that those are not important, certainly there has been tremendous social, cultural, and scientific progress in many countries that rival the U.S. even if they may not have military might or wealth we do. If we're such a great nation, then a little humility and respect for others shouldn't be beyond our grasp
Well said, my friend. It's the attitudes that have resulted in the US being universally hated. Most nations maintain friendly relations with them for economic purposes. Aside from that though, it's countries like Canada that stay as fucking far away as possible from the American model.

I'm not even going to touch on the notion the United States is an accepting nation because it's delusional to think as much.

Ever thought that the United States might just not matter to the rest of the world either? Sure, an embrago on all things American would send Canada for a loop intially. That's what's great about not being the most hated nation in the world though; we have other wealthy, progressive allies that would back us up. The world would keep spinning without "y'all", believe it or not. That's another reason the United States are universally hated - they believe otherwise.

European nations may not "matter" to the United States economically, but you'll find dissention if you say as much around a American pancreatic cancer survivor who only found effective treatment in Switzerland. The concept the United States is a particularly innovative nation is crap. It's a country with enough people annd wealth to fund a lot of experimentation so conceptual output is huge. In comparison to the human progress seen elsewhere to scale though, the United States falls real short on new, effective ideas.

The idea the United States is a particularly generous nation is... hilarious. Look at American national debt. The United States is happy to take far more than it gives. The fact they have the finances to be helpful and occasionally chose to make a kerfuffle out of doing so ("Look, guys! We're nice!") does not equate to generosity. It equates to really a big PR problem with the rest of the world. But I guess we're just jealous! That's the real reason the rest of the world hates the US. Can someone teach me how to be American? Please? (That was me pretending to have my head up my ass.)

It's to any nation's detriment to deem smaller, less wealthy nations without merit or unimportant. I have a very mild accent. The difference in how people behave towards me in Europe when I have a Canadian flag pinned to my backpack or not speaks to this.

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