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Unread 10-26-2009   #216
kia252
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Re: Conservatives Hate Obama More Than They Love America

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Originally Posted by Lord T Hawkeye View Post
No, it's not a problem with the constitution, it's the problem of the judicial branch doing what it is not authorized to do. The constitution does cover this as well.

As the lecture series pointed out, it is the people who are the ultimate arbiters, not the courts.
"The video says it's wrong, so it must be wrong" is a wonderful argument! I have explained that he cut short the actual process to claim false finality with the people, meaning they are arbiters, but not ultimate arbiters.
Yes, the Constitution does cover that the Supreme Court's power "shall extend to all Cases, in Law and Equity, arising under this Constitution, the Laws of the United States..." (Article 3, Section 2) and that the Law is "This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the contrary notwithstanding." (Article VI, paragraph 2) which determines the Supreme Court's power is to enforce the Constitution as the highest law in preemption of all others. That was the foundation of the Marbury v. Madison ruling that such was their authority and duty through the basic reading of their enumerated powers and clarified duties as judges. Whereas they are given authority to rule in all cases of law, and the foremost law is the Constitution, which they are oath-bound to uphold (Articel VI, paragraph 3), then they must, by duty and authority, be able to rule when the Constitution preempts other law. That is far and away different from any sort of "because I say so."

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I'm sure they tell themselves that and maybe even come to believe it but deceiving yourself doesn't make deceiving others okay.

But if these people are really that clueless about the constitution, what are they doing working in government in the first place?
Why does there have to be deceit? Because they disagree with you? God forbid anyone ever genuinely disagree with you. No, we are all but thieves and liars before your truth.

This is not about people being deceitful or clueless, it is about them understanding something differently for any number of reasons. They can be wrong, but that in no way suggests they are clueless or deceitful.
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