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Re: Cautionary message about Amazon Eve
I don't hate fat people, but I won't get into a personal relationship with them because no, it's not in my personal preferences. And I will not say my personal preferences are wrong, what I am argueing against is You (Rachel) and Warlock being incredibly derogatory to anyone with a different opinion. And this isn't an essay, I'm not citing my sources, look up wikipedia or dictionary.com and you'll come close enough. Non attraction is not aversion, irrational fear, or even discrimination. Like I said, you can laud the merits of someone being attractive without WANTING a physical relationship, there is nothing wrong with this.
I find it amusing you point out you irrationally stereotype fat people, I do no such thing, nor do I stereotype TGs or anything else. I just don't feel like having a personal intimate relationship with one, much like several other factors which may not preclude friendship, some physical attraction, does stop me from wanting an intimate relationship. But this is falling into opinion again, and argueing against it is pointless, I don't see it as bad, because I do not harp on them or insult them, and am perfectly fine with how they want to live.
Irrational lack of attraction is just an odd term, especially on these forums, and I don't think that can really be bandied about, I'm not attracted to FMG, or dragoons artwork, I'm sure others would say "WHY NOT? ITS SEXY", but thats all opinion junk. If someone is accepting of homosexuals or TGs or anything else, but does not want to have a physical relationship, this kind of argument may actually push someone to DISLIKE them all together, simply because someone is being offensive about what they may or may not like. I also find it interesting you keep mentioning homophobe, because amusingly, if you go all the way with what some people preach, they were never male in the FIRST place, they were female, and merely adjusted themselves biologically, so they are women liking men. Gay men might not actually always like a TG'd person because they look female, nor does it require being gay to appreciate someone who is a TG. An interesting secondary discussion!
So are gay men also discrimatory? Are straight men being gay? TG crosses all kinds of lines, and makes it hard to define, so no, I still refuse your constant assertions that it is homophobia. I also find your extreme terms "overwhelming lack of attraction", or "strong attraction prior" is a very, very specific circumstance, and that WOULD probably imply homophobia of some sort if they act out on it.
Also don't tell me to cite sources after you don't either, amusingly warlock cited the same source that I used to write my post, your own attempt to force your opinions on others has done nothing but incite anger at your own strawman preaching. And you both have fallen into the trap of hurling out personal insults on a whim, which I responded to in kind, which turned Warlock's last post into a straight troll by calling us all 13 year olds who aren't mature.
Editted to add: According to liveordie's definition of phobia, if you fit into that criteria, it certainly doesn't seem to be possible to be accepting or generally have friends with that community if you have a phobia of them. As a side note, Ranma-chan fanfiction is my favorite kind, been reading it for years and years, noticed the links in liveordie's stuff, not enough good Ranma-chan work out there. Not really related to anything, but yer!
Last edited by CandyKing; 01-30-2010 at 12:18 PM.
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