[qzar9999]

Something I thought of today but couldn't add until now. Since I'm being called delusional and ignorant of logic, I thought I'd try a logical approach to this. Stop me if I say something incorrect...

1) Nobody here is claiming telepathy, so I think we all agree none of us can read someone else's mind. Therefore, it's impossible to really know what someone else is truly thinking.
2) We can guess at/assume what others are thinking by observing their words and actions, but that's all it is: a guess or assumption.
3) Therefore, when we observe the words or actions of another--keep up with me, here--we formulate an opinion about what we believe they're thinking. Since we can't know for sure, our hypothesis cannot be proven, so it is not and will never be a fact.

Now let's examine the argument put forth by Rachel, Warlock, etc.

"If you dislike TG people or find them unattractive, you are exhibiting homophobia."

What you're doing there is observing words or actions (the dislike of a TG person) and ascribing a motive to them, i.e. you're stating the other person's reasoning, which is what you think they're thinking. As demonstrated above, this is your opinion, and not a fact. Which was the only problem I had in the first place.

That said, you're probably right about some people; I'm sure there ARE people who dislike TG's out of homophobia. But you can't possibly presume that that applies to every single person who has some issue with TG's. Wait, sorry, you can presume it; you just can't justify it as a fact.

Oh yeah, one more thing: as far as fap/fetish material is concerned, I agree completely with HOB. If it looks, walks, talks, acts like, and claims to be a woman, it's a woman. It doesn't matter to me. But I do stand by my original contention that it DOES matter to some people (else this thread wouldn't exist) and that businesses are obligated to be honest with their customers.