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Re: Mary Jane Meets The Moon Sequence

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What do you mean 'failed to deliver even a hint of the paid for product'? We can clearly see he completed at least 5 full pages of it. That's well more than a hint.
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Ranzab took the money, and - assuming that each commission was independently funded on a completion basis - failed to deliver the paid-for product.
I call out the relevant portion there. Substantial completion "of the whole" is irrelevant if each piece was independently commissioned.
This is a well-known aspect of contract law, and isn't really a battle worth fighting; after all, define "the whole" in this scenario. If the pieces were individually commissioned, there's no way of knowing or proving that definition.

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Apparently no one has heard from Ranzab in 2 years, he may not even be alive at this point. How about you hold off on the accusations of fraud until you can prove the guy didn't just die unexpectedly years ago?
I'd love to assume the worst, because it makes what he did excusable. It's cold and it's heartless, but it's also the truth. Right now, I'm siding with Occam's Razor; that being, that the number of scam artists jacking people's cash for their own slight gain, far outnumbers the number of artists vanishing from the Internet due to whatever physical ailment they suffer. I'm also siding with onus probandi, which will be the FIRST thing established at any trial. Again, cold and heartless. That's our legal system, to a "T".

Of course, if something untoward DID happen to Raznab, I'd feel terrible about these posts, and wish that evidence were brought to light sooner. Discovery's a real bitch, sometimes. That being said, I cannot assume that he's dead, either; that makes it too easy to write off a potential wrong.
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Again ill reinstate my reference to the whole pilot scenario. Also, considering the fact that nolaf openly stated his leaving the community and his reasons, I can only surmise that Tanzania befell a similar, if not, much more grim situation.

While it is completely wrong of him to have abandoned the community completely without a trace, I believe we should also observe this issue with a speculative appeal.
Do me a HUGE favor here. Don't defend him on that one point. Refunding the payment is a simple matter.

I'm all for an artist packing his bags whenever he's tired, or scared, or progressing, or whatever reason they want to give.
Jacking the cash and refusing delivery IS NOT the same thing.
I'll say it again, because it bears repeating. It is FRAUD. It is A CRIME. It hurts REAL. FUCKING. PEOPLE.

If you're really onboard with someone taking the money and running, I'd like to let you know that I'd be happy to sell you a Lamborghini for $100, payable immediately to my PayPal account, sight unseen.
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