Not looking to flame you just stating my opinion on why I'm not getting angry at this. I never invest what I'm not willing to loose weather its with a kick starter or a real life investment. So I look at the few clips I did receive and what clips at those lengths cost and I weigh them against my investment. And in my case I came out a bit ahead. I know this is not the case for you but that's my opinion on the matter. Good luck friend