D20 Netbook of Expansion

[thepencilandpaperguy]

As some of you may be aware, The Artificer and I have been working on a document with the above title for some time, however, with the upcomming release of D&D 4e (HISS! BOO!) we're reconsidering our release date based on if the general expansion community wants it formatted to 4e or to remain 3.5.

Sample of 3.5 (current text):

Constriction

Now, obviously, if the directions which expansion can occur in become limited, the remaining direction expands much more rapidly, causing uneven stress on the skin, and thus, for each direction that the expansion is restricted from, the rate at which the subject reaches a point where they become unstable enough to burst increases, thus, the size that can be attained before making popping rolls is reduced by 1/6 for each direction that expansion is restricted in. If they are already making rolls, increase the difficulty by 10%.

Note: In a sealed room, having no doors or other openings, the subject will not burst, unless spikes of some other form of trap which deals damage is present, due to the fact that the expansion will occupy all available space and begin applying pressure to the surrounding walls. However, the subject of the expansion will also be the subject of that pressure, which will deal 1d6 points of subdual damage per turn to them (and the walls) until they have taken damage equal to their total maximum hit points, at which time they begin to take regular damage.
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[microme125]

On a related side note, I feel that I should inform those of you who are not already aware of a D20(now Ex D20 due to its content) supplement book called "The Book of Erotic Fantasy". It is a 3rd party book that uses D20 rules for implementing, what other then Sex into D&D. I have the book, and to its credit it is actually Very well written. And I dont mean the naked pictures or any thing, but rather that it is rather serious about what it is attempting to do, enhancing and spicing up the D&D experience with the introduction of sex. The book covers all the bases in a very well rounded manner. from Rules on skills, items, races/monsters, to Spells. Yes spells, all of which pertain to sex(some of which are actually quite handy for things other then sex or related things). It is on that note that I bring up the most prominently related matter to this thread, that is a certain spell that appears in the book called, "Liars Curse". In short, If the subject lies the selected part of their anatomy grows, and the only way to remove the curse is via a powerful spell such as limited wish, remove curse, miracle, etc. Now in the description of the spell it first specifies it works on noses and male genitalia, however this book is very old, can be considered "out of date", and As a DM you control the rules used in your game so if you wish to have it apply to other things, there is no stopping you. Sadly(but understandably) WotC withdrew the rights of the company to classify it as a licensed D20 book and to my knowledge is no longer in print. Never the less you could probably find it on Amazon.com or something.

[thepencilandpaperguy]

I dunno: BoEF wasn't all that great. It suffered from poor production values and, getting back to the point of this thread, had very little expansion content. This netbook was and is supposed to e about expanding your character by inflation, etc, and providing rules for said.

[microme125]

I was just throwing that out there, and since Liar's Curse has always sounded like fun to use on someone(reenactment of Pinocchio anyone?). Anywho, that aside, I am curious will the netbook cover just the rules of expansion in general(like used above ie damage, area, status effects) and nothing more, or will it talk about other things pertaining to it such as methods(spells, Items, abilities, etc.), Types(water, air, inject, forced, etc.), and other assorted material?

As for the reformating bit for 4E, it really depends. How much have you done, and if complete, would you be willing to edit it after 4E came out? I have heard that they have already released 3 or 4 sample-premade characters that are in 4E form along with a short adventure but my Internet is so slow and my labtop is a piece of junk.

[Wildcat]

I think 3.5 is good in D&D but if WotC are bringing out 4e then I think it would work out better if you make your book 4e as well. But over all I think it is a wait and see if 4e crashes, lol, I'm don't really know what kind of rules are going to go with 4e and with the amount of books 3e has I am hoping that it wont be to much different. I hope this helped you with your deside.

[Clickme]

Nah, I think keeping the 3.5 is the better way to go.

[Huzzus]

O_o, wut?

[jiryha]

Palladium Books has some stuff on this too. Not anything that gets into actual sex mind you, but it's not hard to see the applications. There's a class in nightbane called the flesh sculpter that is basically a magic plastic surgeon that can make any change they like. There's a class that originated in Rifter 9 1/2 called the ludicris mage which has been expanded and has the entire class with spells in their best of rifter. Everything from Alter Physical Feature, Metamorph: Opposite Sex, blubber boy (for the wg lovers) ect.

[Katt]

Originally Posted by Huzzus

O_o, wut?

100% agree'd What's going on here?! Where are the bewbs!

P.S. Love the avatar OP.

[benei2]

*cough* Yay first post <_<

There was also a book called Nymphology, which dealt with erotic magic (called Blue Magic), produced by Mongoose Publishing. The details include where Blue Magic came from (wizards fed up with all the fighters getting the girls), spells (including Hypnotic Rump and Enlarge Bosom [sorry, limited to two cup-sizes]), and the Plane of Lust. If you're running an erotic campaign, I'd suggest it... or if you want a good laugh.

As for 3.5e vs 4e, I stopped buying books when WotC stopped actually putting work into them, especially in terms of game balance (i.e. Scout, Swashbuckler, and Powerword: Pain - the level 1 spell that can deal 106 damage). They're trying to do one of two things with 4e, which would be either trying to milk DnD for all it's worth by releasing another new edition and forcing players to buy all new core books, or they're trying to salvage the franchise from the whore they turned it into. (Side Note: I thought the update to 3.5e from 3.0e was good. They fixed things in that.)

From what I know about 4e, they've slaughtered the alignment system. There's only a Good vs Evil axis, and you have a "faction" or something like that (woodlands, city, etc.). Also, they're streamlining character creation; instead of skill points, you just pick an amount of skills you're good at (kinda like the starting packages in 3.5e). Here's the worst part: They got rid of bards. Okay, so maybe you guys (and gals) don't like bards too much, but I'm incredibly partial to the class.

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Back on topic - I say continue your efforts of expansion in 3.5e and leave it to the DM to update as necessary (or player if the DM is lazy). Sounds like you've already done plenty of work with 3.5e, and if you wait for 4e, then you'll first have to learn the new system and how to manipulate it before you even begin reworking all that you have. As someone once told me, don't proofread until you finish, otherwise you'll never get done.

[thepencilandpaperguy]

Originally Posted by Katt

100% agree'd What's going on here?! Where are the bewbs!

P.S. Love the avatar OP.

The original plan was to make a Netbook of Breast Expansion but after a while it was decided that was too limiting... Since there really wasn't anyplace I noticed ot put a general expansion post, I put it here since most of the completed material was BE themed.

(BTW: they didn't just get rid of bards, they got rid of Gnomes, too!)


A little more preview (from section on calculating encumberance from BE):


"So, let’s have an example, shall we? We have Cleo, our nymph sorceress, and our snotty drow barmaid, Tizzt. On round one, Cleo is insulted by said barmaid, after a comment on her under developed state. Using a bloat spell, Cleo opens two small portals to the plane of water in Tizzt’s breasts, causing them to instantly feel very full. By the end of the first round, Tizzt has doubled in cup size, while gaining an extra sixteen pounds of weight. While Cleo starts moving to the door, Tizzt has expanded further, and is now pressing heavily against her corset. Her chest now weighs a whopping thirty-two pounds, and isn’t done yet. By the time Cleo reaches the door and turns to observe her handiwork, Tizzt has gained sixty-four pounds of tit, and is realizing that she is in trouble, and carrying a medium load. Making the two five foot movements to the door chasing Cleo, she expands further, to a massive 128 pounds of breast! That’s sixty four pounds per breast and she is heavily encumbered and cannot move. At this point Cleo may either make her escape, or maintain the spell for another round. Tizzt is obviously going no-where for a while, but can speak with authority on the smallness of other women’s chests."

[SexyJin]

So there is a Netbook book based around the d20 system of D&D in production? or is it already out?

I understand that the question is "should we go 4e" but i can't see to tell if the 3.5 version is already out and ready to be read.