What do you guys think of my art ?

[opailopai]

No no, seriously. My signature has a deviant art link which I hope you guys will peruse, I've got an open requests thread in the requests forum(sorry I'm pretty much full for now), but there's a decent amount of tg/be related content and while I'm not sure what the busiest part of the forum is I figured I'd ask here simply because a good chunk of my art has BE involved (TG is the majority but by nature all TG is also BE).

3 of my most recent drawings are closer to my full ability than the majority of the gallery is and I'm curious on an artistic level , am I any good ? I just get the feeling I might get better criticism here rather than the fav-a-minute lifestyle that is DA.

It's not that I think I suck really, I realize I rush too much of my artwork but I'm still open to some discussion. Also , input on how to do better breasts exploding from clothes shots, I'm fond of those but due to my often rushed artwork I'm noticing an over-reliance on poses that must be burned into my head.

Thanks for any comments.

1st higher quality pic
2nd higher quality pic
3rd higher quality pic

[Amazeroth]

I can't say any negative about your work. It is your style

[Jumba]

I think you've reached the point you can with your current style. I'd guess your coming online here for criticism as you feel you could do "more" rather than "better". What you are currently do is good, infact I enjoyed glancing over things.

However I cannot comment on what "more" can be done. I'm far from an artist and never presume to think otherwise. I can barely doodle a stick man without breaking it. So with this in mind please speak with other such artists. Allow them to express how they went from one point to another.

I could of course be missing the mark on this one. But its how I see things

[Spero Mcgee]

Originally Posted by Jumba

I think you've reached the point you can with your current style. I'd guess your coming online here for criticism as you feel you could do "more" rather than "better". What you are currently do is good, infact I enjoyed glancing over things.

However I cannot comment on what "more" can be done. I'm far from an artist and never presume to think otherwise. I can barely doodle a stick man without breaking it. So with this in mind please speak with other such artists. Allow them to express how they went from one point to another.

I could of course be missing the mark on this one. But its how I see things

Aye, I agree with Jumba on this one. Art is a subjective thing at best so saying it could better is all up to you as the artist. Most of us here can't even draw like that so we can't really say much about it.

[Kojiro Highwind]

From what i can tell from those 3 pictures, you should slow down. the lines looked rushed and im only guessing but maybe you are holding your pen too hard which tends to make some jagged line strokes sometimes.

[PyroWildcat]

Originally Posted by Spero Mcgee

Art is a subjective thing at best so saying it could better is all up to you as the artist.

Oh Good God, I hate, hate, hate this argument. I was in a poetry class some time back, and in one session, some girl was bitching out our professor for trying to give her advice, basically citing this as the reason; I mean it's not like the guy spent years upon years studying the ins and out of poetry so as to give more informed critique on the subject or anything.

Of course, the kicker is what she finished it off with: "If Oprah went and wrote some poetry like this, you wouldn't be criticizing her about it, would you?" Took every fiber of my being not to yell out "Yes I fucking would!"

Yes, art is largely subjective, and a number of decisions are best left up to the artist. However, skill is also a factor, and I, personally, am completely opposed to artists remaining stagnant because they're not willing to take advice. Even worse in this case, since Opaigamer wants advice.

[opailopai]

Thanks Pyro and Kojiro, I do find that I typically draw a bit too quickly. I picture something in my head and want to see it on the page fast so I don't give it the time it needs. You mention "holding the pen to hard" and it's kind of funny in a way, I do something most artists probably stray away from, that is, some people use blue pencils or just draw lightly with an HB. I chose to use lighter pencils which has had the side effect of forcing me to draw a little harder. Instead of leaving that harshness to the lighter pencils where it doesn't actually make much of a difference it carried over to regular pencil work and inking.

So it's actually refreshing to see someone point that out to me. My bigger worry is the stagnation of my style. I use 2 styles, the opailopai account at DA primarily focuses on 1 of those styles. I'll refer to it has my anime style, I don't think it's particularly unique or anything but that's what it is. I spent years looking at anime art as a whole but that method of learning was a bit backwards, I only tried to get better at anatomy after learning how to draw an anime face and so, if you look through my gallery 9 times out of 10 , it'll be essentially the same face. The same angle and spacing as the avatar I just turned on for this forum. Head slightly tilted , facing forward.

The second style I utilize is perhaps my "real" style. It is one far more heavily influenced by 90's nicktoons. There is no structure to it, very cartoony looking and freeform. It does not suit doing artwork involving fetish based transformation though, at least not unless I'm doing something that is supposed to be funny.

To all those who've commented but are unsure about saying anything bad because they can't draw themselves. Compare my art to some of your favorite deviants. Outside of coloring , what are ways you think I can improve? I'm not asking anyone to be an asshole, just want some thoughts on what would make you think my art is as good as your favorite stuff.

Thanks for the comments so far.

[sergeant-major]

Not the least bit silly. I like it.

[Chaos Echo]

I'm not really good at critiquing, so I'll just say the same thing I did over at DeviantART: I think it's good, but if you think you need to slow down, then do so.

[Matsu-sensei]

My suggestion: ask /co/ (with some board-suitable pics of course). Lots of drawbros in there.

[Marmalade-Beat]

I do agree that at this point, your style itself doesn't get much better, but that's exactly why you should be at the point where ripping traits and styles off will add than subtract.

But for now, the obvious things.
Round out your lines and practice more anatomy daily.
It uses a lot of paper, but yeaaah.
For something specific, I'd say your jaws. They sometimes have zero depth, so it gives the impression of them being literally sharp. You're improving from those what I see of those three though.

Make your shading and inking simpler.
A good "unlearning" to take from would be the simple no line styles of peachifruit (hard to find outside her fancomics since she deactivated her DA.) and Takehito Harada (Of Disgaea Fame)

As for bursting breasts, remember the pull in gravity and the natural slope a breast has.
Such as a squeezing expansion will warp the bottom half of the breasts towards the free area and then plop down when it breaks apart.

I have a good (though not translated) diagram off pixiv for the general idea.
Its just a matter of how much weight, fullness, and slope you want to put into it.
Personally I like teenager like fullness but with realistic slope.

Or if you don't mind having to learn a different pen style, which honestly shouldn't be much of a problem, investing in a Bamboo tablet would eliminate most of the secondary problems with trial and error.

[Spero Mcgee]

Originally Posted by PyroWildcat

Oh Good God, I hate, hate, hate this argument. I was in a poetry class some time back, and in one session, some girl was bitching out our professor for trying to give her advice, basically citing this as the reason; I mean it's not like the guy spent years upon years studying the ins and out of poetry so as to give more informed critique on the subject or anything.

Of course, the kicker is what she finished it off with: "If Oprah went and wrote some poetry like this, you wouldn't be criticizing her about it, would you?" Took every fiber of my being not to yell out "Yes I fucking would!"

Yes, art is largely subjective, and a number of decisions are best left up to the artist. However, skill is also a factor, and I, personally, am completely opposed to artists remaining stagnant because they're not willing to take advice. Even worse in this case, since Opaigamer wants advice.

Ow don't misunderstand me, I fully agree with you if the advice giver is an expert on said topic like in your example. When it comes down to giving advice, you shouldn't be giving advice on matters that you don't fully understand. That is what I sort of was aiming at.
Especially things like art or making music or whatever are things that not exactly everyone can do. It's very easy to say good/great about a skill that you yourself have absolutely no experience with. Aka being impressed even though it's already been done before. As such it's my humble opinion that you can make suggestions, but to give advice we know too little about art to say anything about that.

Originally Posted by Opaigamer

To all those who've commented but are unsure about saying anything bad because they can't draw themselves. Compare my art to some of your favorite deviants. Outside of coloring , what are ways you think I can improve? I'm not asking anyone to be an asshole, just want some thoughts on what would make you think my art is as good as your favorite stuff.

Thanks for the comments so far.

Comparing always feels painfull to me especially if the gap in level is big. But generally if you could draw anywhere like any artist from pixiv really, you could be a favorite. I do not have any favorite deviants. I got dozens of pixiv artists saved though.
I regularly check rabid on furaffinity but that's it. I could suggest using a tablet like what was mentioned and getting certain programmes that help with the process of art, photoshop and adobe something. It still would take quite alot of practise with said tools to get anywhere near as good.

Off-topic: To Pyro, what exactly did the teacher say to that girl? I'm kind of curious how one would teach poetry. Since isn't the basic idea with poetry that one writes down one's thoughts/feelings at a time. It may or may not have to ryhme, but I thought the main thing is conveying something. Unless you're going for a certain ryhme sheme/haiku form. Otherwise does it really matter how one writes it down?