Subs vs. Dubs

tghawk555 · 02-02-2013

I would have put this in F&BS, but I'm actually interested in having a semblance of a focused conversation.

Which is better? Is one better than the other? In the end, if both are available to you, does it really make that big of a difference?

Personally, I prefer dubs to subs, but I recognize the quality of the subs. I tend to prefer dubs is because they use my primary language. That makes it easier to follow them (and imitate them, in some cases), for the most part. Not to mention the fact that I like to multitask. If I'm watching a subbed anime, I have to watch the screen the entire time so that I don't miss anything, which limits my multitasking. Still, one of the other advantages of subs is that I can eat crunchy things without having to worry about not catching what someone said.

Clickme · 02-02-2013

I perfer dubs in /most/ cases. I will watch horribly dubbed anime I like in subs, and I have no issue watching subs online when I'm looking for a new show to get into. I perfer dubs, because I dont speak Japanese ;p Even when I do finally get that under my belt, I have some favorite voice actors who's work I love hearing ^_^

Most anime now are faithfully translated and keep with the original in concept. I'm not talking about hte horribly fucked stuff like yu-gi-oh and all the 4kidz splicing. I'm talking about the anime like Fullmetal Alchemist.

tghawk555 · 02-02-2013

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Originally Posted by Clickme

I perfer dubs in /most/ cases. I will watch horribly dubbed anime I like in subs, and I have no issue watching subs online when I'm looking for a new show to get into. I perfer dubs, because I dont speak Japanese ;p Even when I do finally get that under my belt, I have some favorite voice actors who's work I love hearing ^_^

Most anime now are faithfully translated and keep with the original in concept. I'm not talking about hte horribly fucked stuff like yu-gi-oh and all the 4kidz splicing. I'm talking about the anime like Fullmetal Alchemist.

Ah yeah, I almost forgot to mention the favorite voice actors part! But yeah, companies are getting much better at dubbing than they have been. Still, you've gotta admit that the Yu-Gi-Oh dub was pretty decent by the end of the series.

TF-Viewer · 02-02-2013

Depends on the anime I suppose. There are some that even though I have the option of watching the subs I don't because I grew up watching the dubbed version, and it just wouldn't seem right to change it after all that. Then there are some I started watching in subs but after hearing a clip or two dubbed I found it had some of my favorite English VAs so I watched the rest dubbed.

Examples would be anything that was on Cartoon Network's Toonami block or Adult Swim I will watch dubbed because that's what I grew up with. And even though I started watching Index subs I found I enjoyed the English VAs from earlier stuff like Soul Eater so I switched halfway through the series to watching the dubs. I think Funimation's got some decent English VAs. Good enough to get me through season 1 of Fairy Tail (everyone was good except Natsu, his every word was stupid and cliche.. but maybe he's written that way).

Xanderfox · 02-02-2013

I myself prefer Dubs, though with the current state of digital editing bad dubs SHOULD be the thing of the past. Since you can digitally edit to make lip flap match the only reason for bad dubbing now is laziness. Since their is a strong market for uncensored anime that also should not be an issue. There is no reason localization shouldn't be nearly complete translation of the original show.

I do notice "Hardcore" Anime fans blast american VAs performances not matter how good they are.

Clickme · 02-02-2013

Laura Bailey, Johnny Bosch, Steve Blum, and Troy Baker. Ther B-Team. They are my top fave voice actors.

Bailey:
Lust in Fullmetal Alchemist
Serah Ferron in FF13 and 13-2
Keiko Yukimura in Yu Yu Hakusho
Kid Trunks in DBZ
...she has amazing talent for voices

JYB:
Nero in Devil may Cry 4
Ichigo Kurosaki in Bleach
Renton in Eureka 7

Blum:
....everything?
Spike from Cowboy BeBop
Tom from Toonami
everything... no seriously he's got hte guiness title for most credited voice work

Baker:
Snow from FF13 13-2
Kanji Tatsumi from PErsona 4 (game and anime)
Greed in FMA Brotherhood

TF-Viewer · 02-02-2013

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clickme

Laura Bailey, Johnny Bosch, Steve Blum, and Troy Baker. Ther B-Team. They are my top fave voice actors.

Bailey:
Lust in Fullmetal Alchemist
Serah Ferron in FF13 and 13-2
Keiko Yukimura in Yu Yu Hakusho
Kid Trunks in DBZ
...she has amazing talent for voices

JYB:
Nero in Devil may Cry 4
Ichigo Kurosaki in Bleach
Renton in Eureka 7

Blum:
....everything?
Spike from Cowboy BeBop
Tom from Toonami
everything... no seriously he's got hte guiness title for most credited voice work

Baker:
Snow from FF13 13-2
Kanji Tatsumi from PErsona 4 (game and anime)
Greed in FMA Brotherhood

Oh shit, I totally forgot Laura Bailey was Lust. Ya know JYB had a small role in FMA as well? Just one episode though, his character died in the only episode he was in. For me though I think his best role was Vash in Trigun. Steve Blum really is in every-friggin-thing, Wendy Lee used to be as well. I think Yuri Lowenthall is pretty much getting a role in everything these days as well. I almost never hear Crispin Freeman anymore, just sometimes.

I'm really wanting to see who does the dub voices for the new characters in the next season of Fairy Tail. I know the english version is way behind, but I'm hoping Laura Bailey gets on that show.

Sephie · 02-02-2013

incapable of keeping up with subtitles do to dyslexia.

TF-Viewer · 02-02-2013

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Originally Posted by Sephie

incapable of keeping up with subtitles do to dyslexia.

I have a friend with dyslexia who still insists on watching them. I'm not sure how he does that.

JBird · 02-02-2013

I'll go with either, honestly. Though, there are times where a full sentence practically flashes on the screen, and I can't read that fast.

Drachen · 02-02-2013

I don't watch much anime, but I watch a decent amount of foreign films. I'm a bit torn on the issue, but the fact is that American voice acting tends to suck. Hearing the US dub is just not as good as hearing the original performance. It doesn't matter if it's shlock like Le Pacte des Loups or Night Watch or a classic like The Seven Samurai. The English dub is always awful. On the other hand, film is such a visual medium that it's a shame to spend the whole time reading instead of viewing.

I think I will go watch Le Pacte des Loups again now...

Jecilyn · 02-03-2013

Always has been subs for me. When I was first watching anime series back in the early 90's (a lot of which was dubbed in the eighties or earlier) most of the dubbing was pretty horrific.

By the time I got to watch reasonably dubbed work, I'd grown used to the subtitles I almost don't notice anymore...(Likewise when watching Chinese cinema.)

Given the choice, I'll watch them subtitled every time. (This is not to say there are not some well done dubbed versions out there, because there are)

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I mostly watch subs. Japan FTW!	9	36.00%
I mostly watch dubs. America, fuck yeah!	6	24.00%
I watch both equally.	8	32.00%
I watch the subbed version, then I watch the dubbed version right afterwards.	1	4.00%
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02-02-2013	#1
tghawk555 New look! Whatcha think? Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Bimboland, USA Posts: 5,822	Subs vs. Dubs I would have put this in F&BS, but I'm actually interested in having a semblance of a focused conversation. Which is better? Is one better than the other? In the end, if both are available to you, does it really make that big of a difference? Personally, I prefer dubs to subs, but I recognize the quality of the subs. I tend to prefer dubs is because they use my primary language. That makes it easier to follow them (and imitate them, in some cases), for the most part. Not to mention the fact that I like to multitask. If I'm watching a subbed anime, I have to watch the screen the entire time so that I don't miss anything, which limits my multitasking. Still, one of the other advantages of subs is that I can eat crunchy things without having to worry about not catching what someone said. __________________ A bimbo, like, isn't a bimbo unless they, like, talk in pink font! giggle Teehee! Like what you see, boys? There need to be more werewoman TG sequences!! A TG sequence is not a TG sequence without process and a clothes change! Bimbos Aren't Sluts! 181 supporters and counting! Official bet between me and OhZone (Result to be determined on November 4, 2020) Check out my dA: TGHawk's Lounge

02-02-2013	#4
TF-Viewer Slave to the Process Forum Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,781	Re: Subs vs. Dubs Depends on the anime I suppose. There are some that even though I have the option of watching the subs I don't because I grew up watching the dubbed version, and it just wouldn't seem right to change it after all that. Then there are some I started watching in subs but after hearing a clip or two dubbed I found it had some of my favorite English VAs so I watched the rest dubbed. Examples would be anything that was on Cartoon Network's Toonami block or Adult Swim I will watch dubbed because that's what I grew up with. And even though I started watching Index subs I found I enjoyed the English VAs from earlier stuff like Soul Eater so I switched halfway through the series to watching the dubs. I think Funimation's got some decent English VAs. Good enough to get me through season 1 of Fairy Tail (everyone was good except Natsu, his every word was stupid and cliche.. but maybe he's written that way). Last edited by TF-Viewer; 02-02-2013 at 04:04 PM.

02-02-2013	#5
Xanderfox Process Master Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 589	Re: Subs vs. Dubs I myself prefer Dubs, though with the current state of digital editing bad dubs SHOULD be the thing of the past. Since you can digitally edit to make lip flap match the only reason for bad dubbing now is laziness. Since their is a strong market for uncensored anime that also should not be an issue. There is no reason localization shouldn't be nearly complete translation of the original show. I do notice "Hardcore" Anime fans blast american VAs performances not matter how good they are.

02-02-2013	#8
Sephie EYES UP HERE Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Over the Mountains Of the Moon, Down the Valley of the Shadow Posts: 9,693	Re: Subs vs. Dubs incapable of keeping up with subtitles do to dyslexia. __________________ You can also call me by my title, "Her Omniscient Bitchyness" or H.O.B. For short Source for avatar: http://clayrseer.deviantart.com/art/...12209#/d3a5yq0

02-02-2013	#10
JBird Casual Artist Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Louisiana, USA Posts: 2,269	Re: Subs vs. Dubs I'll go with either, honestly. Though, there are times where a full sentence practically flashes on the screen, and I can't read that fast.

02-02-2013	#11
Drachen Pinocchio Pornographer Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: In the shadow of the Empire State Building Posts: 2,137	Re: Subs vs. Dubs I don't watch much anime, but I watch a decent amount of foreign films. I'm a bit torn on the issue, but the fact is that American voice acting tends to suck. Hearing the US dub is just not as good as hearing the original performance. It doesn't matter if it's shlock like Le Pacte des Loups or Night Watch or a classic like The Seven Samurai. The English dub is always awful. On the other hand, film is such a visual medium that it's a shame to spend the whole time reading instead of viewing. I think I will go watch Le Pacte des Loups again now... __________________ Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam.

02-03-2013	#12
Jecilyn Atomic batteries to power Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: New Zealand Posts: 4,648	Re: Subs vs. Dubs Always has been subs for me. When I was first watching anime series back in the early 90's (a lot of which was dubbed in the eighties or earlier) most of the dubbing was pretty horrific. By the time I got to watch reasonably dubbed work, I'd grown used to the subtitles I almost don't notice anymore...(Likewise when watching Chinese cinema.) Given the choice, I'll watch them subtitled every time. (This is not to say there are not some well done dubbed versions out there, because there are) __________________ - These Eight words the Rede fulfill: "An Ye Harm None, Do What Ye Will"