sopa is back

Easy · 03-15-2014

sopa is back

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/pet...-2014/q0Vkk0Zr

vincent_richter · 03-15-2014

Honestly, if this is the attention span dedicated to this kind of thing, I'm not surprised the industry lobbies aren't interested in sitting down to break down some creative barriers.

Snark aside, what has people so concerned that SOPA is back?
There's apparently no new ground since the original proposal, which most ISPs treat like the plague.
The only thing in the petition link is the same base rhetoric from the first StopSOPA campaign, only without the necessary citations provided last time to show that something bad was in the works.
I don't trust campaigns that collect my personally-identifiable information; even less so when they ape older campaigns with significantly more substance.

Did I miss something significant, or is this just another posturing attempt formed without evidence?

Easy · 03-15-2014

i dont know on deviantart people starts to post journals about it

vincent_richter · 03-15-2014

Ah yes, dA - where it's fashionable to have a cause a year late.

Easy · 03-15-2014

so people are making an drama out of it for no cause.

vincent_richter · 03-15-2014

Oh, there was a cause - SOPA, PIPA, and that other crap bill nobody seems to remember were very bad things that - applied liberally to every possible violating instance - would've effectively killed the Internet. When Tim Berners-Lee and Vint Cerf come out against your grand "stop them thieving pirates" bills, you done fucked up, son. Then again, had something new actually happened, I wouldn't take issue with people coming to the party a year late with a do-nothing ePetition, when I was part of the original campaign that actually wrote to Congress suggesting that this is not a productive way forward - and promising to remember their stance on 1A rights come election day - amid literally millions of voices including major site shutdowns.

Their voices are a welcome addition, don't get me wrong here; I only wish they'd shown up sooner, rather than bandwagoning a year after the party.

BillPratt · 03-15-2014

rfc3514. Solved.

vincent_richter · 03-16-2014

So wait - people are flipping out over a killbit proposal from twelve years ago?
Let me ask something here: when was the last time you got penetrated as a result of running torrents?
Because that seems to be the concern expressed in that whitepaper, not potential piracy.

03-15-2014	#1
Easy Process Fan Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 70	sopa is back sopa is back https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/pet...-2014/q0Vkk0Zr

03-15-2014	#2
vincent_richter ミンナニナイショダヨ Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: St. Canard Posts: 6,091	Re: sopa is back Honestly, if this is the attention span dedicated to this kind of thing, I'm not surprised the industry lobbies aren't interested in sitting down to break down some creative barriers. Snark aside, what has people so concerned that SOPA is back? There's apparently no new ground since the original proposal, which most ISPs treat like the plague. The only thing in the petition link is the same base rhetoric from the first StopSOPA campaign, only without the necessary citations provided last time to show that something bad was in the works. I don't trust campaigns that collect my personally-identifiable information; even less so when they ape older campaigns with significantly more substance. Did I miss something significant, or is this just another posturing attempt formed without evidence? __________________ If you're not outraged, you're not paying attention.

03-15-2014	#3
Easy Process Fan Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 70	Re: sopa is back i dont know on deviantart people starts to post journals about it

03-15-2014	#4
vincent_richter ミンナニナイショダヨ Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: St. Canard Posts: 6,091	Re: sopa is back Ah yes, dA - where it's fashionable to have a cause a year late. __________________ If you're not outraged, you're not paying attention.

03-15-2014	#5
Easy Process Fan Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 70	Re: sopa is back so people are making an drama out of it for no cause.

03-15-2014	#6
vincent_richter ミンナニナイショダヨ Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: St. Canard Posts: 6,091	Re: sopa is back Oh, there was a cause - SOPA, PIPA, and that other crap bill nobody seems to remember were very bad things that - applied liberally to every possible violating instance - would've effectively killed the Internet. When Tim Berners-Lee and Vint Cerf come out against your grand "stop them thieving pirates" bills, you done fucked up, son. Then again, had something new actually happened, I wouldn't take issue with people coming to the party a year late with a do-nothing ePetition, when I was part of the original campaign that actually wrote to Congress suggesting that this is not a productive way forward - and promising to remember their stance on 1A rights come election day - amid literally millions of voices including major site shutdowns. Their voices are a welcome addition, don't get me wrong here; I only wish they'd shown up sooner, rather than bandwagoning a year after the party. __________________ If you're not outraged, you're not paying attention.

03-15-2014	#7
BillPratt 789th level Draco-Ninja Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: In my home. Posts: 2,047	Re: sopa is back rfc3514. Solved.

03-16-2014	#8
vincent_richter ミンナニナイショダヨ Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: St. Canard Posts: 6,091	Re: sopa is back So wait - people are flipping out over a killbit proposal from twelve years ago? Let me ask something here: when was the last time you got penetrated as a result of running torrents? Because that seems to be the concern expressed in that whitepaper, not potential piracy. __________________ If you're not outraged, you're not paying attention.