Big Milky Breasts

[Sutibaru]

Originally Posted by Kojiro Highwind

Well the book on perspective i heard was pretty useful. My teacher back in art school knew some of the people who helped create4 those books and i remember him saying that the only ones that were good to get were the getting started book and the perspective books... all the other books are really filled with thinks you eventually learn on your own

Perspective books come in all art styles. *shrug*

[fox_drifter]

Sutibaru's right. You'll learn a lot more, a lot faster if you start with the good ol' human form. That's not to say stop doodling anime or cartoons or whatever other stylizations you'd like, but don't stop with the realism. Everything else is derived from that.

Also: books are nice, and help you learn a few tricks and terms and occasionally techniques. But nothing will ever top just looking at something or someone and drawing it. In my experience, you learn more in a single life art session than in a whole book, and your hands are learning it as well as your head.

[Zambino]

Originally Posted by Sutibaru

It is best not to use those books if you'd ask me. Learn real anatomy first. Manga style is a stylization of real anatomy.

Originally Posted by fox_drifter

Sutibaru's right. You'll learn a lot more, a lot faster if you start with the good ol' human form. That's not to say stop doodling anime or cartoons or whatever other stylizations you'd like, but don't stop with the realism. Everything else is derived from that.

This. This. This. Starting off as an artist by looking at those books is gonna leave you with some serious fundamental flaws in your work that are gonna be hard to unlearn. The proportions are comically skewed, the poses are stiff and unnatural, and the faces... dear god, the people in those books have enormous triangular eyes and what appears to be a lump of cartilage that extends across the entire lower half of the face.

You're essentially learning how to draw from a 15-year-old girl, who learned how to draw from watching anime. You really want that as a starting point?

So my advice to you would be to ditch anime for a bit, and come back to it as a stylism once you've got actual realism down pat (or better yet, find your own style- anime's extremely overdone). Hard shit, but you have to have a pretty solid bedrock if you wanna go far.

And one more thing, no matter how "rude" criticism may seem, it's still criticism, and you can still learn from it. Peel away the layers of meanness that accompany any critique of your work, and you're bound to find something that can help you. It doesn't really matter if it's constructive or not- if they don't tell you how to fix the flaws that they point out, you figure it out for yourself! That, in itself, is another part of improving as an artist.

[vaxon]

its rules yo,no bfore and only after doesnt speak for process,sorry man,nothin...

[Kojiro Highwind]

Originally Posted by Zambino

This. This. This. Starting off as an artist by looking at those books is gonna leave you with some serious fundamental flaws in your work that are gonna be hard to unlearn. The proportions are comically skewed, the poses are stiff and unnatural, and the faces... dear god, the people in those books have enormous triangular eyes and what appears to be a lump of cartilage that extends across the entire lower half of the face.

You're essentially learning how to draw from a 15-year-old girl, who learned how to draw from watching anime. You really want that as a starting point?

So my advice to you would be to ditch anime for a bit, and come back to it as a stylism once you've got actual realism down pat (or better yet, find your own style- anime's extremely overdone). Hard shit, but you have to have a pretty solid bedrock if you wanna go far.

And one more thing, no matter how "rude" criticism may seem, it's still criticism, and you can still learn from it. Peel away the layers of meanness that accompany any critique of your work, and you're bound to find something that can help you. It doesn't really matter if it's constructive or not- if they don't tell you how to fix the flaws that they point out, you figure it out for yourself! That, in itself, is another part of improving as an artist.

I got my drawing skill from drawing mostly anime/manga style things >_> and i used 1-2 things from those books <_< and my pics aren't deadish stiff. I had to say something about that.