Why is Dracula true to the book, but not Frankenstein?

[Hellstromm, Son of Satan]

budthedog is right, TF-Viewer is wrong.

I'm no horror expert, and I NEVER claimed to be such.

I'm sure guys like Stephen King, Wes Craven, John Carpenter, Lucio Fulci, Clive Barker and Bruce Campbell know more about horror than me.

I just like the genre.

If ANYONE here is claiming to be an horror expert, it's you, TF-Viewer.

Getting angry about "1408" being considered an horror movie? Getting angry about someone calling that creature "Frankenstein" instead of "Frankenstein's Monster"? Defending George Romero's honor like he was your brother? All of that reeks of desperate horror nerd to me.

This is the kind of guy who writes Tales From the Crypt fanfiction and gets angry when people forget "Carrie" was based on a book.

[Sutibaru]

I think many would think otherwise. With a username like "Hellstromm, Son of Satan" and creating horror threads, you are giving the impression that you are a big fan of horror and are well educated in the genre.

[GLKnight83]

Originally Posted by Sutibaru

I think many would think otherwise. With a username like "Hellstromm, Son of Satan" and creating horror threads, you are giving the impression that you are a big fan of horror and are well educated in the genre.

Maybe he's asking, so that he may learn? Newb's gotta start somewhere...

Oh, and Sadie? Try H.P. Lovecraft's written material, but not the movie adaptations. Peruse them at your own peril...

[TF-Viewer]

Originally Posted by Hellstromm, Son of Satan

budthedog is right, TF-Viewer is wrong.

I'm no horror expert, and I NEVER claimed to be such.

I'm sure guys like Stephen King, Wes Craven, John Carpenter, Lucio Fulci, Clive Barker and Bruce Campbell know more about horror than me.

I just like the genre.

If ANYONE here is claiming to be an horror expert, it's you, TF-Viewer.

Getting angry about "1408" being considered an horror movie? Getting angry about someone calling that creature "Frankenstein" instead of "Frankenstein's Monster"? Defending George Romero's honor like he was your brother? All of that reeks of desperate horror nerd to me.

This is the kind of guy who writes Tales From the Crypt fanfiction and gets angry when people forget "Carrie" was based on a book.

If I'm wrong why'd you attempt to correct me on Lost Boys II? I've never claimed to be a horror expert, all I've done is point out your errors. I haven't "yelled" at you, or defended George Romero, but if you're implying I was defending him then you are also implying that you were attacking him. Once again all you've done is show us that you have no idea what you are talking about, not when it comes to movies, or books and especially not me.

Claiming that anyone yelled at you or got angry with you when it's impossible to discern those emotions through cold text (and an illogical assumption to make when no all caps, bold text or exclamation points are used) is only an attempt to make it appear that you are a victim of bullying, and you are not that. The only one showing any signs of emotion in his messages here (anger or otherwise) is you.

This is the internet, when someone is wrong on the internet people are going to take notice and let that person know about it. I'm not the only person who's pointed out your mistakes, not even just today. Yet I am the only person you have chosen to take issue with. I have no problem with you personally, I simply make observations. You can post about horror all you like, but when you make posts that are so obviously full of misconceptions and inaccurate information people are going to comment on it. Although I have commented on your mistakes more than once, they were never made to "sound" angry, never was I "yelling" at you. You have chosen to attach that emotion to the messages for whatever reason. I'm almost certain that my comment this time will cause a similar effect, you will view this as being angry or that I'm yelling when I'm not. I don't know why you want to think I'm angry with you, or why you'd want everyone else to think I am, but I'm letting you and everyone else know right now, that you're mistaken.

[budthedog]

So the trend continues, Hellstromm attempts to pass himself off as a horror expert and in doing so only reveals how little he knows about the subject.
[Judgment, phrased as to emphasize his incompetence]

That's one of the most common misconceptions people have about "Frankenstein". I wonder what, if anything Hellstromm will have to say in his defense. Probably nothing, as usual though.
[Judgment, worded to frame Hellstromm as a coward]

If I'm wrong why'd you attempt to correct me on Lost Boys II? I've never claimed to be a horror expert, all I've done is point out your errors. I haven't "yelled" at you, or defended George Romero, but if you're implying I was defending him then you are also implying that you were attacking him.
[All perspective statements]

Once again all you've done is show us that you have no idea what you are talking about, not when it comes to movies, or books and especially not me.
[Judgment, Emphasizing an inaccurate and unverifiable generalization of hellstromm's knowledge]

Claiming that anyone yelled at you or got angry with you when it's impossible to discern those emotions through cold text (and an illogical assumption to make when no all caps, bold text or exclamation points are used) is only an attempt to make it appear that you are a victim of bullying, and you are not that.
[Judgment, generalizing hellstromm's behavior using unreliable information]

The only one showing any signs of emotion in his messages here (anger or otherwise) is you.
[Unverifiable, as likely true as it is not. In general (minefield territory here), when someone is making a large number of judgments on others behaviors, they're using some facet of their emotion (prejudices, stereotypes or whatever) so, making my own judgment using this prejudice I have (not pretending anything else, sorry) I would say that you are indeed emotional about this.]

This is the internet, when someone is wrong on the internet people are going to take notice and let that person know about it.
[Unverifiable conjecture]

I'm not the only person who's pointed out your mistakes, not even just today. Yet I am the only person you have chosen to take issue with.
[I dunno, i'd say you were the one being the most offensive and provocative, See quoted post "I wonder what, if anything Hellstromm will have to say in his defense. Probably nothing, as usual though." Pretending this isn't a provocative statement is being intellectually dishonest]

I have no problem with you personally, I simply make observations.
[Offensive ones]

You can post about horror all you like, but when you make posts that are so obviously full of misconceptions and inaccurate information people are going to comment on it.
[Perception]

Although I have commented on your mistakes more than once, they were never made to "sound" angry, never was I "yelling" at you.
[Perception]

You have chosen to attach that emotion to the messages for whatever reason.
[Behavior Judgment]

I'm almost certain that my comment this time will cause a similar effect, you will view this as being angry or that I'm yelling when I'm not. [Well damn, you sure are offensive for not being angry]

I don't know why you want to think I'm angry with you, or why you'd want everyone else to think I am, but I'm letting you and everyone else know right now, that you're mistaken.
[And you did so in a rude and provocative way. You really are a troll.]

Comments in handy brackets.

Sorry to push the cold pin of rationalism through your balloon of pseudo-rationalistic defense. Boy, that was a bad analogy.

[TF-Viewer]

Originally Posted by budthedog

Comments in handy brackets.

Sorry to push the cold pin of rationalism through your balloon of pseudo-rationalistic defense. Boy, that was a bad analogy.

That's all your own opinion and perspective, jake.

[budthedog]

Originally Posted by TF-Viewer

That's all your own opinion and perspective, jake.

And you flip flop. And call me jake. Kind of odd.

So you are saying that anyone who disagrees with you is only doing so through their own opinion and perspective, but not you, no you are the only one being perfectly rational here and avoiding all of your prejudices. Do you hear yourself talk?

[TF-Viewer]

No, jake. I'm saying that you are stating your opinion and stating things based on your perception. You know that word right?

[Perception]

You like to throw it around so much after all. Your post, your thoughts on my comments, aren't any less judgmental than you claim mine to be (based on your perception). You're also placing words into my mouth

So you are saying that..

and making rash assumptions about my intentions.. like always.

Do you hear yourself talk?

Yes, when I am in fact speaking, but unlike you I don't read it aloud to myself and impose upon these messages a tone of voice that conveys emotions that were not present at the time of their writing.

[budthedog]

Originally Posted by TF-Viewer

No, jake. I'm saying that you are stating your opinion and stating things based on your perception. You know that word right? You like to throw it around so much after all. Your post, your thoughts on my comments, aren't any less judgmental than you claim mine to be (based on your perception). You're also placing words into my mouth and making rash assumptions about my intentions.. like always. Yes, when I am in fact speaking, but unlike you I don't read it aloud to myself and impose upon these messages a tone of voice that conveys emotions that were not present at the time of their writing.

And you deny doing this yourself? and you keep calling me Jake. is there something I'm missing here? anyway, My point has been made and you are now all riled up and this can only turn into something ugly. So, goodbye.

Why are you being so literal about this, by the way? Do you hate figurative language? would you be happy if I said "read yourself type?"

[TF-Viewer]

You haven't riled me, sorry to disappoint you.

edit: I apologize for mistaking you for jake. It's very obvious to me that you are not him now. Earlier I mistook something you said as being similar to something he used to say and given his habit of making alts so frequently I thought you were one of them. I was wrong and I am sorry.

[morwalugi]

Originally Posted by Sutibaru

. But who are you to talk about the monster not being faithfully adapted in media when you cannot even call him the right name? Frankenstein was his creator, not the monster itself.

Totally irrelevant.What WAS important was that Hellstrom put forth a
theory that could be discussed.Who cares if he's a expert or not?

[Sutibaru]

Originally Posted by morwalugi

Totally irrelevant.What WAS important was that Hellstrom put forth a
theory that could be discussed.Who cares if he's a expert or not?

It's perfectly relevant when it's a thread about misconceptions of the monster and/or how the media effects his portrayal to society.