Forgotten God (In-Dev BE-RPG)

[Muhznit]

Originally Posted by CuddleBeam

I know they are hand-drawn sprites. The reason I want to go with that is that 2d animators are much easier to find that 3d animators (and 3d looks goofy imo). Plus, I was thinking of Kickstarting it. Have you seen those other guys, in the TG game? They raised a FUCKING 25,000$. TWENTY FIVE THOOOUSAND Dollars. And that's just TG. BE is as popular or more than TG. I should be able to raise a similar amount and actually invest that money in comissioning good artists/animators, instead of being a douche and keeping all of the money to myself.

Like how much can I friggin comission with all of that money? Holy fucks I don't even have enough fingers and toes for all of that. I could make great stuff. Really great stuff (plus grant a shitload of support to all of those fetish artists out there I'd commission. Win-Win.)




Dude. I'll give it a try. Just a swig. A little sip. If I puke, I'll go with 2.5D.

If not: It's the advent of a great game.

"Best of luck" is all I can say regarding Kick starter. It's quite a gamble since you need to already have a healthy amount of content to get people interested, a well-done presentation, and/or some pretty good rewards. I'd also probably try offbeatr since its more fetish-focused, but I suppose the thing GBDNATE use MIGHT work.

[CuddleBeam]

Originally Posted by Muhznit

"Best of luck" is all I can say regarding Kick starter. It's quite a gamble since you need to already have a healthy amount of content to get people interested, a well-done presentation, and/or some pretty good rewards. I'd also probably try offbeatr since its more fetish-focused, but I suppose the thing GBDNATE use MIGHT work.

I hope so.

I've got big ideas and big ambitions. I've got the skills and the willpower, but I need the help from those who excel in thier own fields. Like the layman illustrator or the layman writer. You might not know it, but you're exceptional.

I've been sending notes to people, to get a feel of how the 3d modelling would work and how the story would go, and how the animations would go down.

Just so happens that I've got like 20 note messages in my inbox with people that I know who know some other people that can make this game a reality. Just to get a feel of how much this is gonna take. Writers, 3d Artists, 2D Illustrators... We can do this.


Oh boy.

I'm excited.

Still keeping it low-profile for now though. One project at a time, but it doesn't hurt to collect contacts.

[CuddleBeam]

Just some idea-image I made. If the updraft I get from CGF goes well, I'll use that inercia to shoot myself higher and make Forgotten Gods the awesome game I envision.

[Katt]

Whats the second screenshot from?

[ser-j]

Originally Posted by Katt

Whats the second screenshot from?

It's from a game called Time and Enternity

[Mondoman]

User defined characters are cool... but in the end they always turn out as rather "flat" your always railroaded into making decisions because of the way the game is set up and when your character says something there is always that "I wouldnt say that" hell in games like borderlands the generalization of vault hunter, and the other characters telling me how I should "feel" about stuff kinda breaks the fourth wall... thing is character creation is great but its a two edged sword on the one hand you feel unique in game, your watching your own characters bust grow... but in the end they are a flat character that your desperately throwing personality at in the hopes it sticks. "Building" the protagonist as an existing character resolves the flat problem, but you run the risk of creating a "bad protagonist" that nobody or few people like... so yeah... risks in both still cant wait to see how this and your other game develop and what you decide... as for battle systems you could always KOTOR it (the old rpg... not mmo) or even include the legendary pause button for the real time battles so as to resolve the obvious issues of it not being turn bases

[CuddleBeam]

Originally Posted by Mondoman

User defined characters are cool... but in the end they always turn out as rather "flat" your always railroaded into making decisions because of the way the game is set up and when your character says something there is always that "I wouldnt say that" hell in games like borderlands the generalization of vault hunter, and the other characters telling me how I should "feel" about stuff kinda breaks the fourth wall... thing is character creation is great but its a two edged sword on the one hand you feel unique in game, your watching your own characters bust grow... but in the end they are a flat character that your desperately throwing personality at in the hopes it sticks. "Building" the protagonist as an existing character resolves the flat problem, but you run the risk of creating a "bad protagonist" that nobody or few people like... so yeah... risks in both still cant wait to see how this and your other game develop and what you decide... as for battle systems you could always KOTOR it (the old rpg... not mmo) or even include the legendary pause button for the real time battles so as to resolve the obvious issues of it not being turn bases

I'll have a look at Kotor, it might be just what I need...

[CuddleBeam]

Another idea.

Think of a moment like this: (6:15 onwards)


With some meaningful dialogue happening as Cedylle beats the crap out of some God character that is under the mind-control of Pettanko Goddess:

[CuddleBeam]

Just some techno-mumbling:

I've found some old drafts I did for a makshift DIY motion capture rig that works with a bunch of clothing security tags and three big magnetic coils (just gotta buy a bunch of copper wiring and steal some clothing :P Just kidding. I know where to get clothing tags.).

I'll see if I can get some little and good amplifers and the right capacitors to get a good, low-noise signal for a computer or some voltimeter I can hook up to a computer to then hook it to software.

I'll scan the drafts as soon as I get to a scanner, and I'll probably AutoCad it to make it look proper and feedbackable from other people on the net. I haven't thought/drafted anything of the output circuitery yet, but that's just silly math I'll do eventually.


K, it sounds insane, but I'll try to make a rough prototype with probably just one tag and one coil. If that works, three coils and a bunch of tags should work.

Edit: Maybe I could do something with a Kinect or a Wii? I've seen people do insane jazz with those things. I'll give it all a look later on when I'm busy with this project. I was thinking of having some characters be in 3d and others in 2d, these are just random ideas that popped into my head.

[vakladros]

The Kinect ushered in an era of relatively cheap markerless free wire capture. There are some free solutions but I've experimented with most of them and been disappointed with the results. The best results are supposedly gotten using IpiSoft's Ipi Mocap studio. It can be used with a single Kinect or two of them, but bizarrely the best results apparently use multiple Playstation eye cameras. It's not cheap ($600~ for the middle tier of the product), but much cheaper than conventional mocap or building your own rig + software to record from it. Additionally there's a month long free trial if you just want to see what it can do. Also a substantial educational users discount.

[CuddleBeam]

Originally Posted by vakladros

The Kinect ushered in an era of relatively cheap markerless free wire capture. There are some free solutions but I've experimented with most of them and been disappointed with the results. The best results are supposedly gotten using IpiSoft's Ipi Mocap studio. It can be used with a single Kinect or two of them, but bizarrely the best results apparently use multiple Playstation eye cameras. It's not cheap ($600~ for the middle tier of the product), but much cheaper than conventional mocap or building your own rig + software to record from it. Additionally there's a month long free trial if you just want to see what it can do. Also a substantial educational users discount.

http://ipisoft.com/gallery/

Daaaaaaaang that is really nice stuff. I can probably get the kinects/playstation eye cameras from gathering around people IRL. The problem would be the software cost, however, with the 30% discount it should be (somewhat) affordable.

Thanks a LOT for this info! Its very, very helpful. If mocap is so easy, and the game will have quite a lot of action shots, this just might be the technique to go with.

[CuddleBeam]

I've got four PS Eye cameras for 10 euros each. I bought two and a designer friend of mine got two too.

I was at the gamestore today and it went like this (happened in spanish though):

Shopdude: Lemme guess, another GTA 5?
Me: Nope. Four PS Eye cameras, please.
Shopdude: *precious face of surprise and WTF-ness*
Me: Four please.
Shopdude: I'll toss in another free one too, dude. Whoa.
Me: No, I just need four. Please discount the price of the freebie from the total. :P
Shopdude: Sure. Here ya go.

Yesterday I talked to the designer about Ibisoft, he liked it and we teamed up (He will be making his own game and I'll help him out a bit with the advanced math and other thingies). We'll pay for the software 50-50 too.

So, yeah. I've got motion capture and I'll be using 3d models for graphics instead of 2d anime, because its cheaper, quicker to do and looks very natural when mocapped.

Plus the designer guy knows some combat reinactors who are cool guys and that know swordsmanship, martial arts, parkour- insane shit I can capture for the game's graphics.

So, yeah. I've got this planned for 2014, so it won't interfere with Cow Girl Farmer.

Ipisoft promo video



-Edit: I'll also managed to get a Unity (its a game engine: http://unity3d.com/) 50-50 split. Hell yeah.
-Edit: Made a drafty thingy for Pettanko. Still thinking of a better design in my idle moments.