McCain bashed by Paris Hilton

[shadowfox586]

Originally Posted by Hellstromm, Son of Satan

Where ARE those Weapons of Mass Destruction?

He (GH) already answered that, moved to Saudi Arabia in the time it took the UN security council to bicker over what should be done over Iraq. There is no way to confirm or deny this, so discussing this further would simply be discussing what we think happened.

Originally Posted by Hellstromm, Son of Satan

What about Guantanamo Bay?

I assume your referring to the inmate treatment thing from awhile back? The incident that got a bit of media attention where the guards humiliated the inmates by (im not sure if that was even in GB, but i dont remember where it was) all of the gaurds involved have been tried and convicted as any other criminal. As for 'bad food, dirty cells and little physical activity' that people have been complaining about lately, have you seen a maximum security prison? Its not a summer camp. And there have been a small number of suspected terrorists tried in normal courts. I remember reading about one guy who was found not guilty because he hired one of the best lawfirms in the country, and was released back to his home country, where he suicide bombed a hotel less than two weeks later with two others (and while he injured a few tourists he really only slaughtered his own people). In courts stateside enough money will buy you freedom, Guantanamo is a way to ensure things like that dont happen.
The only thing i hold against GB is that people arrested here are sent there without due process. Anyone arrested here, especially a citizen, should have to go through the normal due process that every other citizen does. Because just like every other prison not everyone arrested or suspected is guilty so we should never deny our citizens due process. Suspects arrested in Iraq arnet arrested by the police, they are usuealy arrested in combat after the fighting if there are any survivors, and arent protected by any due process laws from that country either.
But i have a question for you. You have said that the soldiers, for some reason, just want to kill Muslims. Then why have a place like Guantanamo? Why arrest them when you can kill them? Why spend hundreds of thousands of dollars extra to make bombs that find the correct target instead of building cheep explosives and level the whole country? It would be cheaper and kill more, and you say we are there for money and to kill, so something dosent match.

Originally Posted by Hellstromm, Son of Satan

Tell me, where is Osama anyway? Why can't your (sarcasm) heroes (sarcasm) find him?

I like how you keep asking vauge questions that no one really has an answer to. He might be dead. He might be alive and hiding very well, not hard to do really. If we knew he was dead why would the bush administration hide it? Osama never was part of the reason he went into Iraq, and being able to say he killed the guy behind 911 would be something hed be mentioning as much as possible.
Also our 'heros' dont have built in Osama finders. Would be handy though wouldnt it?

Originally Posted by Hellstromm, Son of Satan

Care to explain why, when Bush visited Argentina, they had to shut down the city so the natives won't KILL him (come to thinkof, they'd kill you too if they heard your biased "opinions")?

Argentina dislikes bush because they blame him for the IMF and the Paris Club calling their billions of dollars of debt due (though those organizations are composed mostly of European lenders), which sent their contry into a depression. Then their newly elected leader had a back door deal with Venezuela that involved 800,000 dollars was discovered in a suitcase during a security check at a Buenos Aires airport. She didnt like getting caught, so she restricted access to the US ambassador and said it was bushes fault. Though i dont know which visit your talking about (bush has been there several times) but i dont see how shutting down a city would prevent someone from killing him.

And you think people should kill someone because of their opinions? Thats a good reason to kill? And if you dont think its a good reason, why mention it as if it is? You say that Argentina's citizens would want him dead and would kill anyone on his side, even if they have no connection to him... Yeah, those are people ill listen to and feel sorry for. Instead of hating our corrupt politicians, shouldnt they worry about theres anyway?

[PrBlahBlahtson]

Now that we're absolutely and completely off topic and on a rant rampage, I'd like to make an appeal to the moderators.

Please either lock the thread or move it to Flame and Bullshit because this is just getting ridiculous.

[Sephie]

Could you continue it via PM, as it is just between two people?

[ElastiGirl]

Yeah, move it to F&BS!!!!

Also, people still think Iraq had WMD!!?!??!?!?!!

Mind-boggling!!

[shadowfox586]

Honestly just go with PrBlahBlahtson's idea and lock it. Not only has it gotten off topic, but were not even discussing anything anymore, And people have started flaming. I dont know why people cant discuss politics without getting angry... Im open to anyones view.

I hope we all get the best out of this election, and all of our worries are turned aside by whomever is elected. Take care all.

[PrBlahBlahtson]

Originally Posted by shadowfox586

Honestly just go with PrBlahBlahtson's idea and lock it. Not only has it gotten off topic, but were not even discussing anything anymore, And people have started flaming. I dont know why people cant discuss politics without getting angry... Im open to anyones view.

I hope we all get the best out of this election, and all of our worries are turned aside by whomever is elected. Take care all.

Because everyone has a view on politics and they can't see why your view doesn't agree with their view and they think your view is wrong and want to convince you their view is right but you're stubborn and you won't listen and ARRRRRRGH YOU A MORON THAT NEEDS TO DIE!

Nasty cycle. My intent was people laugh at Paris being serious.

[ElastiGirl]

Yeah, do people really change their minds based on internet debate anywho?????

[genderhazard]

Originally Posted by PrBlahBlahtson

My intent was people laugh at Paris being serious.

Paris trying to be serious ROTFL.

[Lord T Hawkeye]

Here's the simple answers.

Iraq? Get out and no more excuses. Your job isn't to make other countries better people, your job is to make Americans better people.

Oil crisis? Stop listening to the hippies and get back into nuclear power. Chernobyl was the result of gross negligence and piss poor design and Three Mile Island was an example of things going RIGHT, they stopped the meltdown before it got out of hand remember?

Presidents? Just ask yourself one thing. Do you think Bush did a great job as President? If the answer is yes, vote McCain. If the answer is no, vote Obama.

Next question?

[Sephie]

Must we dismiss what might be wisdom when it comes from the mouths of fools?
Simply because a simple (in mind not lifestyle) person proposes a plan to solve a complex problem are we required to ignore it?
Is it wise to judge the message by the messanger?

The ignoraning of Hilton based on previously percieved ignorance is an ignorant action, and it seems that those attempting to discredit her stance are making an argumentum ad hominem.

There is a very long joke involving two race horses who talk with each other and arrange to fix the races. When a dog walks by and overhears the two conversing over problems of trust, and offers them in length a sound solution to their situation. Their response is "Hey look, a talking dog"

It seems the nature on the forum and elsewhere to say "Hey look a talking spoilt rich kid".

[thejakeman]

hawkeye, do you read newsweek? there's a rather good article about what bush got right.



jesus was a conservative

[Lord T Hawkeye]

Originally Posted by thejakeman

hawkeye, do you read newsweek? there's a rather good article about what bush got right.



jesus was a conservative

I didn't say what I thought of Bush, now did I?