Scouting for werewolf TFs: future Bitten series.

Anahki · 02-15-2013

Yeah, I know that you have heard that Kelley Armstrong's books about Elena Michaels, the only female werewolf in her fictional world, were going to be filmed as a TV series in Canada by Space Channel.
So, the question here is if someone has read the books, so we would see some complete (not claws and fang bullshit) long (not "poofs" or similar) transformations.
And if you are interesed, the author herself will give updates about the preproduction: http://kelleyarmstrong.tumblr.com/po...bitten-tv-show
It seems that the female lead has not been chosen, but the show will being filmed in April.
I must say that right now I have some (not many) hopes about this.

TF-Viewer · 02-15-2013

Well, if the TV series stayed true to the books we'd seen her transform completely into a wolf. The process is painful, though not described in great detail, it would be much better than a 'poof' but not quite AWiL each time either. Clothing would rip and be destroyed if still worn during the transformation, and it would be at times involuntary (while under stress, or the very first time she changed). The full moon would not be a factor, her change could happen in the middle of the day. There could be partial transformations, I recall she once just grew claws so she could slash a guy's wrist with them. I hope they don't play too much into that. Also she would pretty much be required to change once a month (though not on the full moon specifically) otherwise she could start changing involuntarily; her body pretty much has to do it every once in a while or things get crazy.

It would probably look like the classic werewolf TF, slow and painful, with tearing clothes, though ending with a quadruped wolf form. Though I highly doubt they will stick closely to the books. They will probably not do the classical transformation, just to avoid the nudity that comes with it. In the books, she doesn't change as often as other werewolves, only as often as she absolutely has to. That results in her not being as good at it as the others, it takes her longer to get started and it hurts her more. There were a few times she just sat around naked waiting for it to start while the others were already done. Also she would transform apart from the males, so if they made a series with her in it.. I would be shocked if they didn't focus on the males during the transformation scenes while she was hiding in another room doing it in private, off screen.

I wouldn't count on them showing much of anything is the short version. The potential is there, but expect it to be wasted.

Skalla-Grimm · 02-16-2013

From memory the descriptions in the books aren't too different from what's shown in the graphic novella "Becoming":

http://www.flickr.com/photos/kelleya...7625281252452/

Altair · 02-16-2013

I don't care about female nudity, but I do want to see a good TF, which won't be a "poof", which won't just change clothes with the body (eek), which won't happen offscreen, which won't be a full CGI to something that looks more like a freak creature than a real animal, and which won't be just fangs and claws. All of this sounds possible here.

Now this taboo about female nudity producers have in USA is very tiring... and has been source of many deceptions and incoherence in TF-containing movies. Yet some shows like Game of Thrones (which I think is from HBO & HBO Canada) are much less regarding, and I hear the future Bitten series will be from Canada... so why not hope for this?

TF-Viewer · 02-16-2013

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Originally Posted by Altair

I don't care about female nudity, but I do want to see a good TF, which won't be a "poof", which won't just change clothes with the body (eek), which won't happen offscreen, which won't be a full CGI to something that looks more like a freak creature than a real animal, and which won't be just fangs and claws. All of this sounds possible here.

Now this taboo about female nudity producers have in USA is very tiring... and has been source of many deceptions and incoherence in TF-containing movies. Yet some shows like Game of Thrones (which I think is from HBO & HBO Canada) are much less regarding, and I hear the future Bitten series will be from Canada... so why not hope for this?

Well, Game of Thrones is an HBO series. It's not basic cable, it's premium cable, and they can show nudity all they like on HBO. I don't know about the Canadian network that's going to make this though. But I doubt it's the Canadian equivalent to HBO.

frice2000 · 02-16-2013

Considering that the werewolves rarely if ever see each other transforming because of the body horror and personal nature of the transformations as described in the books I truly doubt we'll see a transformation or process scene. That said, that's not what I'd be excited about. If they do it correctly the PSYCHOLOGY of the transformation and pack dynamics should be really quite good, and ultimately that is more important to me then thirty seconds of transformation fetish fodder.

TF-Viewer · 02-16-2013

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Originally Posted by frice2000

Considering that the werewolves rarely if ever see each other transforming because of the body horror and personal nature of the transformations as described in the books I truly doubt we'll see a transformation or process scene. That said, that's not what I'd be excited about. If they do it correctly the PSYCHOLOGY of the transformation and pack dynamics should be really quite good, and ultimately that is more important to me then thirty seconds of transformation fetish fodder.

Not all interest in transformation is fetish in nature. I often just like to see how creative people can get within their special effects budget. I read several books in this series, not just the TF scenes. I'd like to see how closely they follow the books, part of that would include the transformations and the many nude scenes the books contained. It's my hope they at least attempt to stay true to the books and not have this end up a disgrace like that "Blood and Chocolate" movie ended up being. It had absolutely nothing to do with the book, they just tried to cash in on the name. So long as it's not just a loose tie in like that awful movie I think everyone wins.

rettiroen · 02-16-2013

You might also see transformation of just the hands.

TF-Viewer · 02-16-2013

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Originally Posted by rettiroen

You might also see transformation of just the hands.

Yeah, that's a possibility.... a wolf with human hands, or a woman with wolf claws. Both happened in the books.

Anahki · 02-17-2013

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Originally Posted by frice2000

Considering that the werewolves rarely if ever see each other transforming because of the body horror and personal nature of the transformations as described in the books I truly doubt we'll see a transformation or process scene. That said, that's not what I'd be excited about. If they do it correctly the PSYCHOLOGY of the transformation and pack dynamics should be really quite good, and ultimately that is more important to me then thirty seconds of transformation fetish fodder.

Well, for me, and for most of the people in this forum is exactly the opposite: the thirty seconds of transformation could make this series noticeable, at least in terms of what we expect from this forum. For psychological matters, maybe this fits better your interests: http://www.psychologytoday.com/ xD

Sorry for the pun, but perhaps I didn't understand well, or you said, in a TF forum, that the TF is worthless for you. Or maybe you are more interested in "mental" changes, but for that topic we have some subforum out there, I don't know. Anyway, I also don't raise my hopes high on this. As TFViewer said, it is probable that we will see one brief TF and then the others all offscreen, like they do in Being Human US.

frice2000 · 02-18-2013

No. I'd love to see a detailed transformation. But for the show to succeed and to you know actually get more then just one transformation and a smattering of episodes you kind of need more then that. Stuff for people to connect to. Fetish material is all well and good for us, but it needs more then that to succeed. And yes, I do like the psychological effects of transformations rather then just the body changing. That's only the FIRST part that catches my interest. Much prefer the second.

TF-Viewer · 02-18-2013

Meh. I'd rather see a show produce at least one decent female transformation at least once in my life than have yet another mediocre program that cuts away from the scene out of fear of showing a little skin.

Maybe I'm just saying that because I'm mad at the moment. Maybe it's because 'Jack and Diane' finally came out... and it was garbage.

02-15-2013	#1
Anahki AAWIL fanatic Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Talbot Manor Posts: 1,804	Scouting for werewolf TFs: future Bitten series. Yeah, I know that you have heard that Kelley Armstrong's books about Elena Michaels, the only female werewolf in her fictional world, were going to be filmed as a TV series in Canada by Space Channel. So, the question here is if someone has read the books, so we would see some complete (not claws and fang bullshit) long (not "poofs" or similar) transformations. And if you are interesed, the author herself will give updates about the preproduction: http://kelleyarmstrong.tumblr.com/po...bitten-tv-show It seems that the female lead has not been chosen, but the show will being filmed in April. I must say that right now I have some (not many) hopes about this.

02-15-2013	#2
TF-Viewer Slave to the Process Forum Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,782	Re: Scouting for werewolf TFs: future Bitten series. Well, if the TV series stayed true to the books we'd seen her transform completely into a wolf. The process is painful, though not described in great detail, it would be much better than a 'poof' but not quite AWiL each time either. Clothing would rip and be destroyed if still worn during the transformation, and it would be at times involuntary (while under stress, or the very first time she changed). The full moon would not be a factor, her change could happen in the middle of the day. There could be partial transformations, I recall she once just grew claws so she could slash a guy's wrist with them. I hope they don't play too much into that. Also she would pretty much be required to change once a month (though not on the full moon specifically) otherwise she could start changing involuntarily; her body pretty much has to do it every once in a while or things get crazy. It would probably look like the classic werewolf TF, slow and painful, with tearing clothes, though ending with a quadruped wolf form. Though I highly doubt they will stick closely to the books. They will probably not do the classical transformation, just to avoid the nudity that comes with it. In the books, she doesn't change as often as other werewolves, only as often as she absolutely has to. That results in her not being as good at it as the others, it takes her longer to get started and it hurts her more. There were a few times she just sat around naked waiting for it to start while the others were already done. Also she would transform apart from the males, so if they made a series with her in it.. I would be shocked if they didn't focus on the males during the transformation scenes while she was hiding in another room doing it in private, off screen. I wouldn't count on them showing much of anything is the short version. The potential is there, but expect it to be wasted. Last edited by TF-Viewer; 02-15-2013 at 07:34 PM.

02-16-2013	#3
Skalla-Grimm Grrrrr Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 374	Re: Scouting for werewolf TFs: future Bitten series. From memory the descriptions in the books aren't too different from what's shown in the graphic novella "Becoming": http://www.flickr.com/photos/kelleya...7625281252452/ __________________ Now on DeviantArt

02-16-2013	#4
Altair CatGirl in Process Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: France Posts: 152	Re: Scouting for werewolf TFs: future Bitten series. I don't care about female nudity, but I do want to see a good TF, which won't be a "poof", which won't just change clothes with the body (eek), which won't happen offscreen, which won't be a full CGI to something that looks more like a freak creature than a real animal, and which won't be just fangs and claws. All of this sounds possible here. Now this taboo about female nudity producers have in USA is very tiring... and has been source of many deceptions and incoherence in TF-containing movies. Yet some shows like Game of Thrones (which I think is from HBO & HBO Canada) are much less regarding, and I hear the future Bitten series will be from Canada... so why not hope for this? __________________ ~ Become who you are

02-16-2013	#6
frice2000 "My way of thanking you" Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 401	Re: Scouting for werewolf TFs: future Bitten series. Considering that the werewolves rarely if ever see each other transforming because of the body horror and personal nature of the transformations as described in the books I truly doubt we'll see a transformation or process scene. That said, that's not what I'd be excited about. If they do it correctly the PSYCHOLOGY of the transformation and pack dynamics should be really quite good, and ultimately that is more important to me then thirty seconds of transformation fetish fodder.

02-16-2013	#8
rettiroen Frequent Poster Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 198	Re: Scouting for werewolf TFs: future Bitten series. You might also see transformation of just the hands.

02-18-2013	#11
frice2000 "My way of thanking you" Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 401	Re: Scouting for werewolf TFs: future Bitten series. No. I'd love to see a detailed transformation. But for the show to succeed and to you know actually get more then just one transformation and a smattering of episodes you kind of need more then that. Stuff for people to connect to. Fetish material is all well and good for us, but it needs more then that to succeed. And yes, I do like the psychological effects of transformations rather then just the body changing. That's only the FIRST part that catches my interest. Much prefer the second.