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Old 01-31-2009   #1
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Ah, yes. A lot of Japanese artists do not like it when people take their illustrations and upload them to other website without attribution (The worst offender on this board being Sutibaru).
Hold on now, when was the last time we have seen me post any content here? I really would like to hear about the vast amount of art I posted here without permission lately to make me your accused worst offender.
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Old 02-01-2009   #2
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Re: Pai Touch! (Supreme Ultimate BE Game!) (also with a BR)

just browsing through 4chan and someone has uploaded the CG set, i dont know if its real or not since i no longer trust 4chan all that well....and it seems like too long a DL for a 75mb file (45min?! on cable?! must be trippin somethin...)

http://rs530.rapidshare.com/files/19...Pai_Touch_.zip

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Old 02-01-2009   #3
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Hold on now, when was the last time we have seen me post any content here? I really would like to hear about the vast amount of art I posted here without permission lately to make me your accused worst offender.
Maybe worst is a bit too strong, so I'll apologise for using that word. Anyway, I said that with this thread in mind:
http://www.process-productions.com/f...read.php?t=609
And a recent thread:
http://www.process-productions.com/f...ighlight=pixiv

It's just bad netiquette, nothing too serious, I think I did the direct linking bit to images hosted on Isotonix's site in a couple threads before I learned that it is bad manners myself. Though, as a personal recommendation, you really should organise your stuff in folders according to artist so that you don't have the problem where you can't remember who did what or where you found something.

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So that's where one person lawfully pays for the thing, then shares it to everyone else for free? Yeah, I can see how that's illegal or has its issues. But so it's a case of only "bad manners" if you share it? I can see it as bad manners if the original artist wasn't selling it, but I don't know how that works if they are selling it.
Regardless of whether the thing you are sharing was from an artist's website without any cost to you to look at it, or if it was from something the artist was selling, it is merely bad manners when you share it in certain ways without the artist's permission (which is why it is a civil matter, some artists are completely all right with it, some are not and will complain once they find out like the artist CatyN). How it becomes theft is when someone violates the artist's intellectual property and tries to profit off it. Maybe you are aware of a lot of fake stuff being sold on auction sites, for example a figurine that is a copy of a legitimate one and sold with that in mind, that violates intellectual property laws and is theft due to the fact that it is fraud.

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I sorta see how it works; like, you can buy a hamburger and share it with a friend without getting in trouble. Your friend isn't getting in trouble for not buying a burger, and you're just sharing something you paid for. I guess it just literally feels weird or a bit unfair. It's like if the burger was infinitely large, so the people who made it could only sell one. After that, the one buyer just shares it with everyone, and the burger guy goes broke or all burger makers are discouraged of even making burgers because they see what will happen.
I agree with you here, I think I wrote something similar in one of jollyjack's threads. I would like to think that since humans have the ability of foresight, they would also think to themselves, "Hey, if no one supports the burger guy, the burger guy won't be able to make any more burgers for us to eat."

So, if your friends think the burger guy's burgers are any good, they should try and financially support the burger guy so that the burger guy will hopefully continue making more burgers. =\
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Maybe worst is a bit too strong, so I'll apologise for using that word. Anyway, I said that with this thread in mind:
http://www.process-productions.com/f...read.php?t=609
And a recent thread:
http://www.process-productions.com/f...ighlight=pixiv

It's just bad netiquette, nothing too serious, I think I did the direct linking bit to images hosted on Isotonix's site in a couple threads before I learned that it is bad manners myself. Though, as a personal recommendation, you really should organise your stuff in folders according to artist so that you don't have the problem where you can't remember who did what or where you found something.
I could give a long explanation for both, but I do not feel it's worth typing that much. The first is from nearly half a decade ago. Too old to bring up in a modern thread. The second was posted during a time when most people could not access pixiv and I have not learned out to navigate it well (aka I did not know you could not go back when opening the images into full sized, therefor lost the artist's site).

In the longrun, I do not think it was right to mention my name at all.
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