Some BE stories and comics

[Blake Isaac Gordon]

Originally Posted by Clickme

If you don't have money? TOUGH SHIT! If you don't have the cash, that's your problem.

HA! I love it that's so going into my sig... Many thanks.


AS for the whole BESC thing... I'm not a fan nor will I ever be. Its my issue but guess what, if I want content I go somewhere else. I don't justify bad behavior with, "So basically we should bend over and get screwed over by them constantly (in the name of 'respect') instead of giving them a taste of their own medicine (taking their profits which they took from our pockets)?"

And one more thing, has anyone had any issues with PortalComic? The BESC's buisness plan is a slovenly bowel of spaghetti, but Portal's work is top notch- how is it possible to swipe from the BESC and NOT hurt Portal?

[Metatron]

Originally Posted by Blake Isaac Gordon

And one more thing, has anyone had any issues with PortalComic? The BESC's buisness plan is a slovenly bowel of spaghetti, but Portal's work is top notch- how is it possible to swipe from the BESC and NOT hurt Portal?

I am not one for vengeance unless it's really called for but someone innocently finding a sharefile of work should not be scolded for lack of knowledge. If anything our OP should be given some metal or kudos for finding such piracy so it can be removed.


I think it is quite simple. Artists are paid on commission. x number of page drawings = x dollars. Logically if we pirate then BEAC has to get more stories to keep up with the dissemination of their works. I know its stupid but eh cant think if any other way

[catfish27]

Originally Posted by Metatron

I think it is quite simple. Artists are paid on commission. x number of page drawings = x dollars. Logically if we pirate then BEAC has to get more stories to keep up with the dissemination of their works. I know its stupid but eh cant think if any other way

"Logically"?!

If enough people figure "eh, why pay for the BESC when their content is going to be uploaded somewhere every couple of months," then they're not going to have enough revenue coming in to pay artists and writers to create new stories. And that doesn't have anything to do with how artists get paid.

[Muhznit]

Originally Posted by catfish27

"Logically"?!

If enough people figure "eh, why pay for the BESC when their content is going to be uploaded somewhere every couple of months," then they're not going to have enough revenue coming in to pay artists and writers to create new stories. And that doesn't have anything to do with how artists get paid.

I've said the solution before: Download quota + Teasers. Community meeting Download quota -> New content.

[PoisonElf]

Originally Posted by Blake Isaac Gordon

And one more thing, has anyone had any issues with PortalComic? The BESC's buisness plan is a slovenly bowel of spaghetti, but Portal's work is top notch- how is it possible to swipe from the BESC and NOT hurt Portal?

I was out of work for a while when mindcontrolcomics hit their creditcard snag and couldn't afford to produce more content.
Also, a reason why they stopped offering downloads was because it was appearing (literally) on other sites as soon as it was uploaded.

People don't think about the "little guy" when they're looking for their free ride.

Incidently, Fans of PortalComic should check out The Hidden Knowledge & The Green Sign on www.mindcontrolcomics.com (and Beyond Rubies! *self plug*)

[nothingclever]

I feel in this thread something, somewhere, somehow went terribly wrong.

[vincent_richter]

Originally Posted by nothingclever

I feel in this thread something, somewhere, somehow went terribly wrong.

I thought that since this site is centered in the United States, that people would take a hint that United States law and United States Fair Use Doctrine might apply. Looks like that's somehow the "shit-stirring" of the new century, because gods only know how the U.S. respects foreign policy (and I say that as a citizen, Mr. Cheney).

None of this should be construed to say that I in any way condone piracy, it's just that I get plenty more irked when it directly affects the community. Frankly, I find it disgusting that people are using the "poor plebes" concept to justify ripping off something they decidedly enjoy. Have a heart and send the creators a few dollars, at least.

[Metatron]

Originally Posted by vincent_richter

None of this should be construed to say that I in any way condone piracy, it's just that I get plenty more irked when it directly affects the community. Frankly, I find it disgusting that people are using the "poor plebes" concept to justify ripping off something they decidedly enjoy. Have a heart and send the creators a few dollars, at least.

So then do you condone the use of pirated clips that this site hosts which are against the law but "directly affects the community" by having them removed?

Originally Posted by Lurking Guy

And there it is: the people of the forum only care about piracy when they lose money. Many people around here, including moderators, act like this has something to do with morality. It's simply a case of keeping the site from shutting down and to keep themselves out of poverty. Pretending it has anything to do with morality is silly, and allowing other instances of piracy all across the site is just hypocritical. I hate piracy, but this is just silly.

Agreed on all counts.

Silliness is the charted territory this tread has entered.

[Blake Isaac Gordon]

Originally Posted by Metatron

So then do you condone the use of pirated clips that this site hosts which are against the law but "directly affects the community" by having them removed?

I have to ask, (Thus splitting hairs) I scanned some of the links but are any of these examples links to the 'entire work' in all its wholeness?

[Metatron]

Originally Posted by Blake Isaac Gordon

I have to ask, (Thus splitting hairs) I scanned some of the links but are any of these examples links to the 'entire work' in all its wholeness?

I assume you mean the links I posted back on the other page. I will break them down
http://www.process-productions.com/f...ad.php?t=23343
while this one does not have the entire video it is a clip and is subject to the law of video piracy where the video must be playing either from the source (aka creator) or a broadcast station with permits to play such a video. Upon editing the video down a source citation must be added to the video in order for people to confirm where it was played and when. The video would only be viable for a week to two.

http://www.process-productions.com/f...ad.php?t=24178
This one is simply open and shut. Pictures cannot be posted with out the expressed written permission of the retailer or creator. In addition a link is posted to the full comic.

http://www.process-productions.com/f...ad.php?t=25378
As with the previous it is expressed written consent. I even notice my commentary after viewing the pirated images.

http://www.process-productions.com/f...ead.php?t=1668
The last is simply the same as the other two.

While it can be said that this site does not host some of these videos or pictures but they are on a sharefile the same can be said about the chan boards and several of them have been closed many times over.

Not at all, but you're assuming that foreign policy overrides the right of a country to impose laws on its own citizens. Sure, jurisdictional issues are the same around the world, but it's important to understand that not every country takes such a dim view of "clips" over "wholesale ripoffs". Perhaps I should clarify: I'm plenty irritated when people attempt to claim the copyrights of others, but I can understand why someone might do so; anyone who claims they've never so much as downloaded a single MP3 is either a. lying, or b. completely ignorant of what "downloading" means in a modern legal context. No, I don't approve of thievery of another's work; but when it can be tied to direct financial losses that damage a larger community, I get downright pissed off about it.

Yes but as stated this site is hosted in the US so it is subject to all laws in this country. The US is a little more hard nosed about piracy. As an example I dont know if any of you saw but a few days ago Empornium.us and PureTNA closed for good. It is still unclear as to why. Both were hosted here in the US and no news of their closing was mentioned in fact Empornium had discussed expanding. Most are certain that this is likely due to an increased legal pressure.

I suppose my primary reason for continuing this rant is that I worry that this site may fall victim.

[Bareon]

WHY ARE PEOPLE STILL BUMPING THIS?

This topic should be dead and gone by now... >.> Instead its yet another "moral argumentation file" for the.... what.. 27 other argument threads that weren't enough?

All we need to do in a situation like this is to tell the Original Poster that we don't allow local artist's works to be exploited on these forums and END IT!
END IT PLEASE!

In other words, if you need to argue some more... we have a place for that, its called the Flame & Bullshit Forum

*sigh*

[hentayextra]

Originally Posted by Bareon

WHY ARE PEOPLE STILL BUMPING THIS?

This topic should be dead and gone by now... >.> Instead its yet another "moral argumentation file" for the.... what.. 27 other argument threads that weren't enough?

All we need to do in a situation like this is to tell the Original Poster that we don't allow local artist's works to be exploited on these forums and END IT!
END IT PLEASE!

In other words, if you need to argue some more... we have a place for that, its called the Flame & Bullshit Forum

*sigh*

I got the big message a little while back. This thread has become more about their argument rather than my post. its a shame to lock it, cant u transfer it to that section.

I never put much thought into morals about pirating, until recently. I mean get a few music files and soundtracks from the internet, and some other stuff. The only time when I think its gone too far when they hacked ps3, xbox 360, wii, ds and the psp.
As for anime subs online and manga im not so sure. If there wasnt subs online or manga then there wouldnt have been bothered to buy or look into it. Because since I live in England that kind of stuff is rare. So I'm very glad I watched it online when I first did I saw a lot of amazing stuff, also with anime and manga there r thousands and thousands of series there is no way u would have the time and money to explore them properly. So what I do is that, when I look online and watch these animes if I find something really good Like Code Geass, I buy the cd's and some manga. I know its not much but im not going to spend a fortune exploring all the different anime's and mangas there is just too much. Reviews and rankings barely mean anything u either like it or u dont.
With games its different, there are a lot of games out there but they arnt too expensive and there are loads of gameplay footage online and reviews to help choose.

with BE stories, fetish stuff and talyor made clips there are quite a bit of free previews.