Man of Steel Review, Spoiler Free

[JBird]

Originally Posted by Snowglare

If this were a DBZ movie, Goku would've let Zod go at the end.

And then Zod would have become an ally and baby-daddy to Bulma.

[sodacat]

Exactly. Superman didn't win because he was smarter, or more courageous, or more righteous. He won because he was stronger than his opponent.

You know what I'd like to see for MoS2? Red Son set in America. Have Supes become the Captain America for the US Military for a few months until he realises what a damned terrible idea that was.

[JBird]

Originally Posted by sodacat

Exactly. Superman didn't win because he was smarter, or more courageous, or more righteous. He won because he was stronger than his opponent.

You know what I'd like to see for MoS2? Red Son set in America. Have Supes become the Captain America for the US Military for a few months until he realises what a damned terrible idea that was.

...Red Son was less about military and more about politics. And, that would just be redundant, since he's "from Kansas. That's about as American as you can get."

[zullumaster]

Gotta say, the action was over the top, and what was expected when Superman and Zod went at it at the end. I actually quite enjoyed the film and found it more enjoyable than Superman Returns. That being said, I do wish it was a bit more than Superman discovering who he is, and then almost immediately forced into action. There was really no change time between a guy with a funny suit, and Superman.

As far as sequels go, yeah Lex would be a great villain if he were done right. (And if Ironman can go toe to toe with Thor in Avengers, an armored Lex Luthor should be able to give Superman a run for his money, especially if Kryptonite is involved.) But I think Lex should almost be saved for the background. I'd say Doomsday, but that will lead to a crappy version Death of Superman story or something else disappointing. Maybe if they want to expand, try going for Despero, Mongul, or maybe even Black Adam.

[Vengeance1701]

Yeah, despite being directed by Snyder, this reads like Nolan's Batman. Dark, humorless, joyless and not very fun.

Random thoughts that bugged me even as I was watching it:

1) Why focus so much on the fat bully if they never pay that off? Except to promote IHOP, I guess.

2) The Krypton stuff went on way too long. We're there to watch Superman, not Gladiator-El. All we really needed to know... "Planet's fucked, Zod's a dick, bye Kal-El!"

3) My respect for Zod might have gone up if he had Brer Rabbitted the Kryptonians into shooting them all into space, saving them from the destruction of the planet.

4) That family Zod's about to make a nice human flambe? Yeah, he totally did. We never see them again, not even running past the camera. The camera angles used (IE: on the exit) mean we completely should have....unless they decided to stroll down the subway tunnel.

5) Why the focus on the random girl in Perry's office? Did we really need to see that to know how anus-clenchingly horrifying the gravity wave was?

[Snowglare]

Originally Posted by Vengeance1701

1) Why focus so much on the fat bully if they never pay that off? Except to promote IHOP, I guess.

'Cause he's Pete Ross. Easter egg.

[Vengeance1701]

Who the fuck is Pete Ross?

[JBird]

Originally Posted by Vengeance1701

Who the fuck is Pete Ross?

Old Superman/Superboy supporting character. And the random girl is suppose to be "Jenny Olsen", a gender-swapped Jimmy Olsen, but she served no real purpose in the movie; other than being as stupid change.

[Vengeance1701]

Originally Posted by JBird

Old Superman/Superboy supporting character. And the random girl is suppose to be "Jenny Olsen", a gender-swapped Jimmy Olsen, but she served no real purpose in the movie; other than being as stupid change.

Translation then... a character that was obscure who had no real followthrough. It'd be enough to have him in one scene. After that, his character just goes nowhere.

And to make it Jenny Olsen without making her an important character, we have no reason to give a fuck about her.

[sodacat]

I prefer to imagine that was Jimmy Olsen dressed as a woman. He's good at that.