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Re: SheWolf crowd funded project
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Re: SheWolf crowd funded project
A year from now or a year from when you started? Even just a month makes a lot of difference.
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Krusty~ well well well you sneaky bugger! Well congrats on using those amazing talents to do something you love. But still, you could take donations to your cause, if for nothing more than people being willing to send you some money. Not everybody that gives you money is some demanding prick hell bent on making your life a living hell ya know? Donations are just there to help you as the artist, not place demands on you from the community. But hey, a year from now you'll have a bit of artistry to share with us all that will bring a lot of happiness to others, and that is something to be proud of. ^_^
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Re: SheWolf crowd funded project
On the flipside, if there's anything you may need to decrease the turnaround time, don't be shy about asking. If it's just a matter of finding the time, that's an entirely different situation to "X and X might make this process quicker."
Whatever we can do to help, right guys (and gals)? ![]()
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A year was a ballpark based on est. animation and render time.
Missa has already provided an amazing voice track. I guess everyone has already checked out her stuff at Clips4Sale. Let's move any further discussion over to my art thread, and leave this thread for a crowd funded project. |
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Re: SheWolf crowd funded project
Krusty, I read your message on dA and I would rather not reveal my own story idea for a live action transformation film. I don't mean to sound selfish, but I have been developing werewolf film ideas for years, but none have them have compelled me nearly as much as this. It is something I may do later on, but it is something I want to do. However, I am on board to help out with this project in anyway I can.
If you're going to pay homage to AAWIL, consider adding MB, that's the only thing I can think of. But that would be a plausible idea, doing An American Female Werewolf in London (the transformation, anyway). |
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You should reconsider the tail.
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I don't want to ruin your cheerful party, but I've read that you have the idea of making it CGI. So, you give up before even starting? I mean, I thought that you were all here to think about how to create the ultimate female werewolf transformation. For me, if you do CGI style, you will go one step behind from any live-action video.
My reasoning is that yes, you can, with much effort, create something better than Gryf already did some time ago. Well, that would be wonderful and so on, but it is still far from what was intended here, or am I wrong? Sorry for not being so constructive about this, but I can give you an idea about how to reduce costs and avoid the use of animatronics (so you will save some money on the process): you could get two prosthetics for two different transformation stages, and then use the CGI to morph the "earlier" one into the "later" one. So for these effects you should need someone with experience with prosthetics, and someone who could handle a decent morphing software... well, in the second case you don't even need an expert, I assume. And to finalize, as others before me have stated, the best idea is to support an artist who were a member of this forum, so you could minimize the "artistic" differences that could arise during the process, and to avoid working with someone who is not "into this". Good luck with the project... |
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Re: SheWolf crowd funded project
To be clear: I am working on a CG project, but that us a private project that may get released to the community if I finish it sometime next year.
This thread is about doing a crowd funded project in whatever form. I'm pretty sure that we are allowed to have more than one project going at a time. My apologies that my project kind of took over. Any further discussion for my project should be put on a separate thread. Go crazy! |
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Re: SheWolf crowd funded project
Well let me be a little more clear on at least what I was aiming for. I'm all for doing An American Werewoman in London in any way, shape, or form that gets it done and done right. If that is live action with animatronics, fake bladders, rubber hands and feet and ripping clothing, fine, lets do that.
If on the other hand it can look something like: http://affect3d.com/girlfriends4ever/ (warning, futanari) then there's not really much of anything we can't imagine going on in the scene. It might push a few boundaries on a technical level, but isn't that what you're supposed to do with technology in the first place? You can look at Gryf's work. Look at the difference in quality between his Dolphin transformation and his Weresnake. There's a lot of subtle but noticeable things going on and in my opinion the effects in the Weresnake are just as good as anything live action has produced (especially in film in recent years). The difference, in my eyes, was cost effectiveness. If you have the choice and the money, of course I'd want it done live action. But lets say doing the entire transformation scene from American Werewolf in London only with a woman would cost about $50,000 for live action, or only $5,000 in CGI. Just how far are people willing to go to go full on live action? I guess that question could only really be answered by doing a Kickstarter and setting the final stretch goal as doing it all live action. These are just numbers I made up for ease of text, the numbers could be far higher or lower, but I wouldn't know because Miro of Girlfriends 4 Ever hasn't replied to my email asking if he'd be interested in doing a Female Werewolf in London project yet. If he does, at least I'd have a basic idea of the cost to do something in that style. Hopefully thenightwolf will hear something back from his effects guys on a ballpark number and perhaps we can go from there. So I do apologize if I gave the impression of only wanting to do it CGI or ignoring live action. I'm simply trying to figure out the best way to get the best bang for our bucks and to see some furry boobies! ^_^
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Re: SheWolf crowd funded project
No, sorry, maybe it's my fault if I misunderstood your intentions. My only concern was being father-like and warning all of you about the risks for a project like this.
Just a question, those 50,000$ are based on similar previous experiences, or is it something "temptative"? I am not an expert of FX projects, but I always assumed that the best way to reduce costs in this case could be being lucky enough to collaborate with a tandem of a TF-fan girl with some acting skills who will offer to work for not a very expensive fee, and a FX entrepreneur with time to spend and the courage to organize all this. After these two assumptions, you could need the following: hiring lighting equipment, hiring cameras, an edition suit (hardware and software), and optionally some money for the location, catering and transportation. The final expenses would come from the materials and tools needed to make the prosthetics, of course. Have I missed anything? Could we get an idea about how much all this would cost? |
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Re: SheWolf crowd funded project
The place has a membership of
2,205 Too small to make the Holy Grail happen
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