Female werewolf film betsy

[nomnomnom13]

Completely agree with you anahki, and also I just read howlingfan's reply and feel kind of bad that I assumed they would do something like that. Just got a little freaked out based on some of the stuff last page but am now assured that we are all acting like decent folk around here. (sorry about that howlingfan I know you're a good guy)

Also I do have to agree with you about the tf scene selling a film, just thinking back to trick r treat and noticing that every video with the werewolf party gets at least 200,000 if not 2,000,000 views, but hey guess that's just hollywood and others not realizing a vital market.

Still kind of have hopes for this film though, after all i did quite like nar dyrene dromer even if it had limited tf as well.

[thenewflash]

Originally Posted by howlingfan

So since I’m one of the producers of “Betsy,” I was able to watch an online screener, and…buckle up for bad news. Like, really bad.

You will not like the TF. It is almost exclusively skin ripping and pretty much zero process, which is not what I was promised. I was told there would be bladder work and facial changes. This didn’t happen. I was told we would see her claws grow. Again, it didn’t happen. I was told we would see her back and muscles expand under her clothes. Didn’t happen. I was told her legs would get longer and rip out of her pants. I was told extra dialogue would be recorded of her getting high off her changes at the end and that she would triumphantly kick down a door after the TF. You can probably guess what I’m about to say: It doesn’t happen. Inexplicably, there weren’t even any real sound effects to go along with the TF, unless you count her screaming, which I don’t. There was literally more process in the NSFW teaser trailer. (At least we saw her claws and fangs grow in that one, and there were sound effects.) Even Missa had better special effects. So the question remains: What the hell happened? My best guess is something the writer-director told me before: that Kelci had to leave unexpectedly early during the shoot, but he conveniently left out the detail that the TF was unfinished or basically not even done at all.

Here is what happens: Betsy wakes up from a bad dream with hair already on her face and the backs of her hands and her claws already on her fingertips. (Again, we were supposed to see them grow.) Then she gets out of bed and falls on the floor screaming. She crawls out of the room and across the hallway. There are close-ups of her legs and back, but again, no clothes ripping or effects work whatsoever (not even sound effects). Meanwhile, the film keeps cutting to other scenes, which breaks up the TF. When we get back to Betsy, she rears up and tears off her shirt, exposing her chest. This is literally the only good part of the TF and, perhaps not coincidentally, the part I was most responsible for, since I pushed the writer-director to add it and gave him a ton of money for it. Then there’s a close-up of her ripping her face off, and we don’t even see the full wolf makeup until the next scene when she’s stalking in the woods.

As upset as I’m sure many (if not all) people will be on this board about this news, no one should be more upset than I am, since I doubt anyone spent anywhere near as much as I did on this project. At least we have “Bonehill Road” to look forward to later this year. (And before anyone says it will be as bad as “Betsy,” the two photos released from the TF already look a thousand times better than what was done in “Betsy,” and the writer-director of that movie confirmed that the actress’ body was cast for changing parts during the TF, something that was done for the original actress of “Betsy” but unfortunately not for Kelci. Again, if I knew “Bonehill Road” existed, I wouldn’t have given “Betsy” an arm and a leg (though I would’ve still bought the DVD).

Here is the very slightly good news about “Betsy”:
1) There is a very quick TF shot of Marylee, so I was wrong when I said there wouldn’t be a TF of her, but it’s mostly just her screaming in a car while we see her fingers elongate. Ironically, that’s literally more process than we get for the title character, for some reason.
2) If you care more about the actual movie than the TF (and I’m guessing that’s a small minority on this board), it’s actually pretty decent with some funny and romantic moments, though the story is somewhat predictable. Okay, a LOT predictable. It’s one of those movies where you’re waiting over an hour for the characters in the movie to come up to speed on what we already know from the trailer: that Betsy is a werewolf. Also, when they suspect a wolf attack (like regular wolf, not werewolf), everyone is completely shocked, like it was an attack by a two-headed clown demon from Saturn or something. “A wolf? In Ohio?! It’s not possible!! GTFO!!!” Other than that, it’s a fairly enjoyable indie movie.
3) Based on the ending, it seems the writer-director wants to do a sequel. This may actually be bad or at least not-so-good news, based on the quality (or lack thereof) of the TF, but remember, he wants to go back to the original version of the movie, with the original actress and full nudity during the TF. After seeing the finished product of this version of the movie, it is my opinion he should’ve made that original version and just waited for the actress to come back, especially since they already cast her face in plaster for the TF.

That is all. I guess I’m done commenting on this thread now. Let the flame comments commence.

I was hoping for a decent TF in this film, unfortunately we won't really be getting one. Does anyone have a source for the original Teaser Trailer for Betsy (the NSFW version), cause I really wanna see that one instead.

[howlingfan]

Originally Posted by thenewflash

I was hoping for a decent TF in this film, unfortunately we won't really be getting one. Does anyone have a source for the original Teaser Trailer for Betsy (the NSFW version), cause I really wanna see that one instead.

That teaser is no longer available. It was only available to backers of the movie’s original Indiegogo campaign before the film’s tone overhaul and recasting of its lead actress (of which I wasn’t a part of) and to producers (not just Indiegogo backers) of the new movie (of which I was a part of). I swore to the writer-director that I wouldn’t post the teaser online, but since he pretty much lied to or at least misled me as to what the TF of this film would entail, an evil part of me feels like also going back on my word and posting it, but you know the drill about not sinking to someone else’s level and two wrongs don’t make a right, etc. All you need to know is that if he made the original version of the movie, you guys would definitely like the TF (and the teaser only had a partial TF in it). If he does in fact decide to make the original version of this movie with the original sexy tone/actress, etc., I would recommend supporting it via Indiegogo or whatever. Until then, hold your bucks from any other project he makes.

[lowes96]

Yeah defiantly put the older trailer up now because this guy screwed us and ripped us off. I say put it up who ever has it because we were all let down big time and he didn't fulfill his promises at all. Just watching the score video on Facebook you can see these guys didn't give an F!

[Kantomaster1111]

It sounds like the disappointment is the lack of fulfilment on a specific promise rather than a bunch of horny people with blue balls.

[TF-Viewer]

Originally Posted by Kantomaster1111

It sounds like the disappointment is the lack of fulfilment on a specific promise rather than a bunch of horny people with blue balls.

Though, to be fair, this is a fetish site. That is specifically the sort of thing people here would be interested in. Making it a perfectly legitimate complaint to have... here.

[Anahki]

Originally Posted by Kantomaster1111

It sounds like the disappointment is the lack of fulfilment on a specific promise rather than a bunch of horny people with blue balls.

As TF-Viewer has correctly pointed out, all the negative connotations from your speech apply also to you for obvious reasons. And people have the right to opine, complain, congratulate or whatever in a place like this, if they just follow the rules... from another perspective, what we do with the film is what you pretend to do to us too :P. Anyway, even with the criticisms and all, I will have a look at the film, simply because there are people who like TF stuff but also werewolf movies like "a normal person" .

[Kantomaster1111]

Originally Posted by Anahki

As TF-Viewer has correctly pointed out, all the negative connotations from your speech apply also to you for obvious reasons. And people have the right to opine, complain, congratulate or whatever in a place like this, if they just follow the rules... from another perspective, what we do with the film is what you pretend to do to us too :P. Anyway, even with the criticisms and all, I will have a look at the film, simply because there are people who like TF stuff but also werewolf movies like "a normal person" .

I didn't fund the film, so I am not sure how this pertains to me. What are the obvious reasons? I never planned to fund or watch the film purely based on lack of interest. And if you're wondering why I'm in this thread, I check every thread that's updated on here out of habit.

However, if I am buying a product because the person or company selling it has made a promise in regards to that item, and then I actually give them money and receive the product and it is not as described, it's not unreasonable for me to have a complaint.

If I buy a bag of Salt & Vinegar-flavored potato chips and I open the bag and inside I find Barbecue-flavored chips, would it not be my right to complain?

Not sure why this is so hard for you guys to understand, and why it has to be made personal when someone enters a discussion.

[lowes96]

I agree we were promised something and got totally ripped off on this one. I knew from the gate it was gonna suck but like always I held on with a lil hope. I don't understand what's so hard about having a sexy female rip her clothes off and turn into a werewolf. Lol

[slayer1]

Originally Posted by lowes96

I agree we were promised something and got totally ripped off on this one. I knew from the gate it was gonna suck but like always I held on with a lil hope. I don't understand what's so hard about having a sexy female rip her clothes off and turn into a werewolf. Lol

yeah I was skeptical about this one too and in the end never supported it financially, just like I didn't support anthony brownrigg financially either. Good decisions it seems

[GenYun]

So is nobody else going to watch it for the plot?

[Cursebearer]

Originally Posted by GenYun

So is nobody else going to watch it for the plot?

I'll be watching it for both plot and TF. I seem to have a lower bar than most for appreciating a werewolf TF if it hits the archetypes I enjoy, so I'm actually expecting to be at least mildly satisfied! As for the plot, I'm always open to a good indie horror project, though I'm not certain what to expect here exactly. Seems like it might be going kinda slasher which would be fun, though I'd be even more pleased if it delves into the lead female werewolf struggling with her curse in a cerebral way.