Cautionary message about Amazon Eve

[Sephie]

Originally Posted by qzar9999

Agreed wholeheartedly. And...



Don't worry, she always does, and this time's no exception. Still going on with that homophobia garbage.

No, I will get the last word. Unless I am banned. In a related note google lotus boobs.

[LK]

Originally Posted by Herr Onymous-Bosch

Unless I am banned. In a related note google lotus boobs.

That's a great way to get it done.

Also, while I don't follow all of HOB's posts, I do recognize that HOB is a giant troll. I hope you all don't forget that when you decide to critique my banning decision.

[Rachel Bronwyn]

Regarding the image LOD posted, take a peek at Amazon Eve's hands. There are no procedures transgendered women can undergo to feminise their hands. She has very ladylike hands.

Features of hers that have made me think twice about her biological sex are her ribcage, stomach muscles and butt and hips. In LOD's image they look entirely feminine. In others, masculine. Regardless, I have no opinion on the matter whatsoever.

Originally Posted by qzar9999

Don't worry, she always does, and this time's no exception. Still going on with that homophobia garbage.

This coming from someone so profoundly homohobic they're incapable of watching porn featuring males as naked men scare them.

Translation: I have nothing of value to add to this discussion nor am I intellectually capable of refuting any claims made so I'll call it garbage and bait Rachel instead.

Troll.

Pretty sure jeebus had a thing or two to say about being the bigger person and turning the other cheek. I mistakenly thought you said you lived in accordance with his teachings. My bad.

[Jungles]

Originally Posted by Rachel Bronwyn

This coming from someone so profoundly homohobic they're incapable of watching porn featuring males as naked men scare them.

Is not trying to make someone feel bad about what they're attracted to is just as bad as forbidding someone from being who they want to be?

Think about it.

[qzar9999]

You know what would be great, Rachel? If you could avoid stating your opinions as fact. What do you think of the example he gave about breast implants? If they're done extremely well, there's no obvious difference between implants and real ones; any difference would be entirely "under the surface," so to speak. Yet some people would be turned off by it. There's no way you can chalk that one up to homophobia. Much like it's not 100% correct to state that being turned off by a TG female is homophobia.

[Sephie]

For those stating that being transgedered IRL without announcing it is deceitful. 1. It is sometimes suicidal to do so, and 2. From personal experience it is more deceitful to those who are truly attracted to you to be transgendered and keep in the closet.

Explanations:
1. Because I live in Houston, and in a particularly GLBT friendly part of Houston I can transition openly. In much of the United States that can and has gotten people killed. Furthermore those individuals who after transition admit to being transgendered are more likely to be killed by homophobes. Furthermore if you are attracted to someone ho appears to be a woman and you are not in a relationship with them, why do they have to reveal something traumatic and private about their past? If someone is dressed in tennis clothes do they have to announce that not only are they not a professional tennis player, but they cannot even play well as their arm was severely injured in a crash that killed their parents?

2. Personal story time: My ex dumped me for pretending to be a guy. Genetically I am male, but she felt like I was lying to her.

Long story short: Looks like a girl, thinks like a girl, talks like a girl, acts like a girl, it's a girl.

[Rachel Bronwyn]

Originally Posted by Herr Onymous-Bosch

From personal experience it is more deceitful to those who are truly attracted to you to be transgendered and keep in the closet.

Real life attraction and potential relationships are profoundly different than the business transaction that is purchasing and beating off to tittilating videos.

I completely agree though. In a perfect world, being transgendered would play no role whatsoever in relationships. Discimination runs deep in our society though. If the person you're dealing with is shallow and bolts soon as "trans" comes out of your mouth, well, you're better off without them and it would have blown up soon as they found out anyways. There will be some people who run to the hills after finding out the lady they're courting was raped and is therefore impure. Some people can't tolerate having a partner whose parents are gay. It's sad and profoundly shallow but it's life.

Buying and indulging in videos featuring skantily clad ladies in arousing scenarios in not real life.

[mercury01]

Originally Posted by Herr Onymous-Bosch

Furthermore if you are attracted to someone ho appears to be a woman and you are not in a relationship with them, why do they have to reveal something traumatic and private about their past?

This. What's under her skirt is not your business.

[Clickme]

That?s no different than me discriminating against brunettes who have a recessive red head gene. It does not affect their appearance nor does it affect who they are. But, ewww, they have an icky gene!

I think Rachel makes a really good point here.

[Sephie]

For some reason the second page of this thread seems to be down. Not the first or last, I just can't view the second.

[Clickme]

*shrugs* Maybe we broke it by putting too many personal views in the pages of a fetish forum? lol

[Sephie]

: A better apology:
Sorry for the cursing. As explained in the now removed post I had been dealing with Bureaucracy all week and though I don't normally curse, I just sorta exploded. I still feel that the OP is insensitive, immoral, and bigoted, but I cannot advocate censorship for him as I am opposed to all censorship save cases where peoples life are put at risk. If contact info for eve is given anywhere I would call for the removal of the OP as individuals who are perceived to be TG whether or not they are tend to have a much higher than normal number of murders (a reason most of us keep in the closet unless we are somewhere safe).