Bitten: The Series - Page 19

Anahki · 03-14-2014

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Originally Posted by Thrillerboy

My biggest problem is that they really didn't make enough of a deal of her first change. It was kinda like "Ow, this hurts", "Deal with it, or you'll die", "Ow again", and it was over. I have no idea how the book described it, but the scene (ignoring the tf parts, talking strictly storywise) was underwhelming to be depicting something that was so dangerous to Elena.

I suspect (and this is just a personal opinion) that both the director and the FX guys had in mind something a bit more expectacular, or at least something similar to what we saw in the first episode with Logan's TF. Unfortunately, Ms Vandervoort is a definitely nudity dodger, and maybe it made impossible to show certain camera angles in which the body double (the cute Kristen Pizycki) would have been quite obvious. It's a nice theory, isn't it?

Kantomaster1111 · 03-14-2014

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Originally Posted by Thrillerboy

My biggest problem is that they really didn't make enough of a deal of her first change. It was kinda like "Ow, this hurts", "Deal with it, or you'll die", "Ow again", and it was over. I have no idea how the book described it, but the scene (ignoring the tf parts, talking strictly storywise) was underwhelming to be depicting something that was so dangerous to Elena.

That was my problem, too, which is why I think they're trying to make up for it through other elements of the story.

Cactus Jack · 03-14-2014

I just assumed that since we were in the lair of the bad guys that the tension of the scene was cut by how big of a sociopath Velcro is.

TF-Viewer · 03-15-2014

I'm pretty sure they added the character of the woman who dies mid-TF in order to illustrate what Elena avoided. I don't recall her being in the book, in fact I think that entire chapter was very different.

In the book there's no abandoned factory, it takes place in a parking garage, and the transformation completes, tearing all her clothes off in the process. I don't know why the huge change in scenery or the huge jump to making it a partial TF that she wills to stop and reverse. In the book it's not a huge deal to reverse a transformation once it's started, she lets it finish because it would take longer to go back than forward because she'd crossed the halfway point.

From all the differences I'm thinking it will very soon have nothing to do with the book continuity, and way well skip ahead to elements of later books. The entire "Stolen" book might be compressed down to two episodes and finish the series at this rate.

There were only like three clothed transformations in the series, and it looks like they're not going to be doing them. Maybe it was an issue with the effects, tearing clothes is more a practical effect traditionally and they're going heavy on CG for that. I know tearing clothes can easily be done with CG but maybe they don't know how or didn't think they could so they change the whole story around that limitation... I dunno. I guess I'm just saying that I'd wish they had stuck closer to the source material.

Kantomaster1111 · 03-15-2014

There's a difference between sticking to the source material and making an adaptation. If people want the source material THAT bad, that's why the source material itself exists. I don't think sticking to the source material would have saved the show in this particular case. Based on what I've read, what I've heard, and what you guys have described, the book sounds equally bad as the show.

TF-Viewer · 03-15-2014

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Originally Posted by Kantomaster1111

There's a difference between sticking to the source material and making an adaptation. If people want the source material THAT bad, that's why the source material itself exists. I don't think sticking to the source material would have saved the show in this particular case. Based on what I've read, what I've heard, and what you guys have described, the book sounds equally bad as the show.

Nah, the books aren't bad.

CK01 · 03-16-2014

The first book wasn't bad, bit middle of road but good take on the concept.

As for the series, it seems to be taking the Dexter adaption route, first season reasonable based on the first book with lots expansion and changes to make it "more suitable for tv" before things really get different.

Anahki · 03-16-2014

I've read bits of the books, and I definitely didn't like the style in which the books are written. But I must also say that I enjoyed the content of them, so I could recommend to have a look.
About comprising Stolen into two or three episodes, it could be a good idea, but I'd also suggest that they didn't involve other "species" much in the story... for me the show works because there aren't annoying teenage look-a-like bloodsuckers, pseudo indian native shamans or ridiculous eastern demons (to name some of them). I mean, I prefer a werewolf show with werewolves in the front line.

Chef123 · 03-16-2014

So, any Tf in the last episode?

Kantomaster1111 · 03-16-2014

I'm personally sick of the whole "pack vs. pack" premise. The only reason Bitten gets away with it is because the source material was written before said premise became a cliche.

TF-Viewer · 03-16-2014

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Originally Posted by Kantomaster1111

I'm personally sick of the whole "pack vs. pack" premise. The only reason Bitten gets away with it is because the source material was written before said premise became a cliche.

Is it really a cliche yet? I'm not sure there's been enough of those done for it to be over used. Also I don't think the "mutts" even count as their own pack.

Anahki · 03-16-2014

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Originally Posted by TF-Viewer

Is it really a cliche yet? I'm not sure there's been enough of those done for it to be over used. Also I don't think the "mutts" even count as their own pack.

Yep, it's more like a group of "shared interests" with no cohexion. It fact, things for Santos are getting more and more out of hand.
And about clichés, maybe the "wolfish" werewolves are becoming the mode from the last ten years, "thanks" to the success of series like True Blood or Vampire Chronicles. The tendancy I see these last years is to go towards "semi-werewolves" (read: fangs, claws and color lenses) to make a werewolf show at least as cheap as your everyday vampire soap opera, to the consequent damage to the image of our lovely good old werewolves (Howling and AWIL, you know).

03-14-2014	#219
Cactus Jack Fan of the Art of Process Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 298	Re: Bitten: The Series I just assumed that since we were in the lair of the bad guys that the tension of the scene was cut by how big of a sociopath Velcro is. __________________ "Scientists say they've built a better peanut..." - Fox News

03-15-2014	#220
TF-Viewer Slave to the Process Forum Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,779	Re: Bitten: The Series I'm pretty sure they added the character of the woman who dies mid-TF in order to illustrate what Elena avoided. I don't recall her being in the book, in fact I think that entire chapter was very different. In the book there's no abandoned factory, it takes place in a parking garage, and the transformation completes, tearing all her clothes off in the process. I don't know why the huge change in scenery or the huge jump to making it a partial TF that she wills to stop and reverse. In the book it's not a huge deal to reverse a transformation once it's started, she lets it finish because it would take longer to go back than forward because she'd crossed the halfway point. From all the differences I'm thinking it will very soon have nothing to do with the book continuity, and way well skip ahead to elements of later books. The entire "Stolen" book might be compressed down to two episodes and finish the series at this rate. There were only like three clothed transformations in the series, and it looks like they're not going to be doing them. Maybe it was an issue with the effects, tearing clothes is more a practical effect traditionally and they're going heavy on CG for that. I know tearing clothes can easily be done with CG but maybe they don't know how or didn't think they could so they change the whole story around that limitation... I dunno. I guess I'm just saying that I'd wish they had stuck closer to the source material.

03-15-2014	#221
Kantomaster1111 Frequent Poster Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 396	Re: Bitten: The Series There's a difference between sticking to the source material and making an adaptation. If people want the source material THAT bad, that's why the source material itself exists. I don't think sticking to the source material would have saved the show in this particular case. Based on what I've read, what I've heard, and what you guys have described, the book sounds equally bad as the show.

03-16-2014	#223
CK01 Process Disciple Join Date: May 2005 Location: Australia Posts: 1,165	Re: Bitten: The Series The first book wasn't bad, bit middle of road but good take on the concept. As for the series, it seems to be taking the Dexter adaption route, first season reasonable based on the first book with lots expansion and changes to make it "more suitable for tv" before things really get different. __________________ http://cyckath.deviantart.com/ Cosplay Deviants = Sexy Buy Spinnerette Volume 1 Today!

03-16-2014	#224
Anahki AAWIL fanatic Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Talbot Manor Posts: 1,787	Re: Bitten: The Series I've read bits of the books, and I definitely didn't like the style in which the books are written. But I must also say that I enjoyed the content of them, so I could recommend to have a look. About comprising Stolen into two or three episodes, it could be a good idea, but I'd also suggest that they didn't involve other "species" much in the story... for me the show works because there aren't annoying teenage look-a-like bloodsuckers, pseudo indian native shamans or ridiculous eastern demons (to name some of them). I mean, I prefer a werewolf show with werewolves in the front line.

03-16-2014	#225
Chef123 Frequent Poster Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 206	Re: Bitten: The Series So, any Tf in the last episode?

03-16-2014	#226
Kantomaster1111 Frequent Poster Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 396	Re: Bitten: The Series I'm personally sick of the whole "pack vs. pack" premise. The only reason Bitten gets away with it is because the source material was written before said premise became a cliche.