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Unread 07-29-2008   #1
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Okay, i saw this movie today called 'How to create an american' (good luck looking for it), i am not going to go into detail on whats it about but the end of the movie almost made me question my self and others in fact, the ending breaks the 4th wall by having the main character address to the audience this message about how this generation is doomed i think he's right when you think about here is his mesa:
" You are all the same. You waste your life on the most irrelevant things. You talk on your cell phone about who's going out with who. You waste time on the fucking internet, arguing over whats cool or whats utter shit in your eyes but can't shut up about it. You mindlessly indulge in thing to make your miserable life seem better. All of you fat/skinny annoying little fucks who grow fat but blame someone else for it. All of you deserved to be in the holocaust, all of should've been on the planes and in the towers at 9-11. But most of all, you retarded species who run around like poultry deserve to die...'
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THE SECOND RULE OF THE FIGHT CLUB IS THAT YOU DO NOT TALK ABOUT THE FIGHT CLUB.

THE FIRST RULE OF PROJECT MAYHEM IS THAT YOU DO NOT ASK QUESTIONS.
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In other news, Jarraisic Fight Club is on tonight!


Dino-might: Prehistoric beasts battle to the death in ?Jurassic Fight Club?

http://news.bostonherald.com/enterta...&position=also
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In other news, Jarraisic Fight Club is on tonight!


Dino-might: Prehistoric beasts battle to the death in ?Jurassic Fight Club?

http://news.bostonherald.com/enterta...&position=also
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You are not smart. You are not unique. You are not a beautiful snowflake. You are the ever-dancing, ever-singing shit of the world.
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You are not smart. You are not unique. You are not a beautiful snowflake. You are the ever-dancing, ever-singing shit of the world.

Oh, Hellstromm, you're just incorrigible !

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ps: Agree with thejakeman, obviously.
pps: Truman, actually I adjust my views often. I am a global skeptic.

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A FASCINATING fPOINT, PERSON WHO IS NOT ME!
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Ultimately, the problem is that life for most people is now so far removed from the means of production that this feeling of wasted life is inevitable.
There are precious few things actually worth doing, in the long run, and most of us don't want to do them. This creates a feeling of alienation, of an unnatural existence. It has been that way for at least some members of the population for thousands of years.
I've personally felt that way most of my life, and you learn to acknowledge, and, while not quite accepting it (one always likes to pretend one can and will change), at least live with it.
Also, Samsa is right. There is no meaning to life but what is made of it, as well as a few biological imperatives, which, if need be, can be brushed aside.
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I just say, putting something that emits microwave radiation that close to your head is inevitably going to cause problems.
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Oh, no. It very much depends on the person. You have to take a holistic view. People who live long while smoking may have other habits that are healthy. Or it might be partially genetic. Or luck. Some associate lower caloric intake with long life, at least, in fruit flies. Perhaps that's all it was. Maybe he just consumed fewer calories than average. And while alcohol is a carcinogin, there are things in some drinks that are anti-cancer. Then again, I know a long term smoker/drinker who died in a fire from his drunken smoking. His lungs were actually pretty clean given his long term smoking. And yet he died from drinking and smoking nonetheless.

And consensus is often just a majority of people who are wrong. I would endeavor to say most voters were wrong in quite a few elections. I won't say which, and I bet you might agree with me in principle. Consensus does not equal the truth. (I still think Democracy is the best system though anyway btw.)

Random example of silly consensus:

This was once an effective political ad. I bet a consensus of "Citizens for Eisenhower" loved and endorsed it. And a majority of voters voted for Ike. And yet people would laugh at you if you tried such an ad today. They would laugh the politician out of the election. OR they would think it was just a bad SNL animation.


And consensus is a fleeting thing. I am only after the truth. Sure my personal examples may not effect you the way they effected me. You don't know the people personally.

Here have just one link that associates cancer with cell phone use:
http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news0...ls_danger.html

Salivary gland

Last month, a study in the American Journal of Epidemiology, suggests that cell phone use contributes to at least some cancers.

The study found focused on cancer of the salivary gland, looking at 500 Israeli citizens who had developed the disease and 1,300 healthy subjects.

Researchers concluded that those who had held a mobile handset against one side of their head for several hours a day were 50 percent more likely to have a tumor in the salivary gland."


Oh, and aspartame is slowly being viewed more and more negatively, even though they used to think it was safe.

Some say aspirin would not make it to market if it was discovered and released today, given it's danger.

So to sum up. You have to review the evidence you see yourself and make up your own mind.

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See, that's the difference.

I do review evidence and make up my own mind, but I don't ignore any evidence that disagrees with me on the flimsy premise that the consensus is often wrong, so any studies that disagree with my view are as well. If a study shows something different, I'll take it into account when I make up my mind. But just as the consensus can be wrong, the minority is often just as wrong. Usually, the truth likes somewhere inbetween.

I also don't take statements facts and use them as an excuse to throw out unverifiable testimonials about dead friends or ridiculously irrelevant political statements.

I also know what I'm specifically talking about, so I'm not going to talk about cell phones causing more auto accidents and fatalities if we're talking about whether they cause cancer.
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You seem to be making this too personal, but in any case, I'm not saying it's definitely proven. However, is it worth the risk, when you can so easily use landlines most of the time? Is it worth the risk, when, logically, a microwave transmitter should be dangerous? Do you put your head in the microwave oven? I don't

So I say I will continue to minimize their use. Not eliminate. But minimize.

You do what you want.

Remember, there was a time when margarine was supposed to be good for you. Now they realize hydrogenated oils and transfat are horrible for you. And cholesterol in food does not necessarily increase serum cholesterol. My cholesterol is fine, last I had it checked and I eat eggs 6 days a week.

In other words, we have been lied to over and over. So, sure, look to a consensus. Weigh your evidence. And do what you want. I am not trying to convince you or denegrate your point of view. I am just sharing my point of view. I could be wrong. But I have been spooked. So I am going to be careful.
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okays, it seems we've jumped tracks a bit, not that theres anything wrong with that but i mean lets say we are all at the amusement park and we were talking about Breast Expansion and out of no where someone says "MY FOOT FELL ASLEEP!" a little random/subject changing material eh?
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