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Unread 02-13-2007   #13
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Seriously its a stupid idea that a stem cell has a soul yet.. If anything a person would get a soul when they first become conscious..
That's the entire arguement, actually. The cells do not have a soul. The fetus did. But when you you determine the point that the fetus attains a soul? Birth? Conception? End of second trimester? Heart beat? And thus, you hit where the arguement stands in the US.

Oh, and I just wanted to explain that to him. NOBODY hijack the thread to start a stupid arguement, m'kay?
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Unread 02-13-2007   #14
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Now, don't stem cells start producing more of whatever type of tissue is around them? That would include, muscle and skin as well. So injecting a big glob of them into a person's chest seems pretty frickin stupid to me. Some poor girl is going to develop a second pair of tits from this procedure and it won't be in a place that's appealing, even to TF fans. Like one pair inside the first.
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Unread 02-13-2007   #15
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In a world where some people are turned on by chicks with dicks for nipples, you can bet there's a fetish for anything.
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Unread 02-13-2007   #16
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And why would the American government stop funding for stem cell research? It's already paying off in Japan.
The American government never stopped funding, just made it harder to get funding. I'm glad they did...it's just too bad Californians are too optimistic about stem cell research and basically gave away $3 billion away to stem cell research when there is no actual way for any stem cell research company to actually pay back the $6 billion they?ll owe after interest and even if the companies cannot pay California back, they can just claim bankruptcy and not pay anything. Knowing my tax money is being used for purposes that should be company founded rather than government funded isn't something I like happening. Yeah?I?m very wary about stem cell research the promises researchers claim. Even this article seems rather sketchy. Infusing stem cells with fatty tissue? That sounds you?re asking for tumors?because some stem cells can actually fuel the growth of tumors.
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Unread 02-13-2007   #17
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I bet in 10 years people will be saying not to masturbate because sperm has a soul.
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I bet in 10 years people will be saying not to masturbate because sperm has a soul.
Actually I think that is part of some of the super-conservative sects anti-masturbation arguments. That and some line in the Bible about man not destroying his seed or spilling it on the ground.
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Actually I think that is part of some of the super-conservative sects anti-masturbation arguments. That and some line in the Bible about man not destroying his seed or spilling it on the ground.
Genesis 38:8-10 NIV:
Then Judah said to Onan, "Lie with your brother's wife and fulfill your duty to her as a brother-in-law to produce offspring for your brother." 9 But Onan knew that the offspring would not be his; so whenever he lay with his brother's wife, he spilled his semen on the ground to keep from producing offspring for his brother. 10 What he did was wicked in the LORD's sight; so he put him to death also.

Some might say spilling the seed is bad, but when you read the actual passage, it leaves room for interpetation; mostly that this has nothing to do with masturbation but with the fact that Onan didn’t obey “his duty”. Its not hard to see why Onan didn't fulfill his duty, but yeah...things are different today.
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Err.. thats only advocated by the much louder and extreme minority.. Seriously its a stupid idea that a stem cell has a soul yet.. If anything a person would get a soul when they first become conscious.. in fact I still remember my very first memory.. walking down a staircase in my old home.. then playing with a wind-up easter rabbit on the floor... its the most vivid memory I have.. o.o; makes me feel kinda cold and fidgety thinking about.. "This.. is where your memory started".. every time... Nya-haha...ah?
Sorry for not sticking to the topic. Growing larger breasts is a noble goal, but this anecdote grabbed my attention because I have a similar sort of first memory. I was about four and it was like waking up for the first time. All of a sudden I was just there in my family's house. I knew how to talk and things like that, but didn't remember anything before that moment.
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"Choose!" Booms a loud voice from an undetermined location. "Choose the form of your destroyer!"
"Oh I get it. If we think about J Edgar Hoover, then J Edgar Hoover comes down to destroy us. Real cute. Everybody clear your heads!"
But it was too late, Ray had chosen.
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Elsewhere... at a research lab
.A scientist preps a culture of stem cells, siphoned from a bastard fetus found in the dumpster of a back alley abortion clinic, to be injected in a human subject.
...But then the stem cells take on a life of its own, making the boobies grow wildly out of control and become as large as Godzilla and wrecking cities. People flee in horror from the TITanic titties.
Naturally, Pat Robertson uses this as an opportunity to preach about stem cell research. "I warned ya', he said, "Didn't I?" flailing a Bible over his head as crowds of people flee past him.
It was then he caught a glimpse of the abominable boobies through the thick clouds of dust and debris that surrounded it.

Haha, I just had to write that. A story about large boobs AND pokes fun at the Christian right & their constant fuss about stem cell research (you can hug babies not stem cells).
You know, it's long been a theory of mine that the meaning of life can be equated to Ghostbuster quotes.
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Last I heard, researchers have found a way to obtain stem cells from the placenta; a fetus is no longer the primary source for stem cells.
(EDIT: *smacks head* That's right, my bad, it's the umbilical cord, not the placenta.)

That's probably why there's been more flexibility towards stem cell research lately. To my opinion, that's a good thing.

Repaired natural boobies or larger natural boobies, as long as it's safe for the chick, then that gets my approval as well.

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There are actually 3 types of stem cells,(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stem_cells) its the embryonic ones that the wacky far right object to and the ones the gov. defunded or made harder to get funding for. On a side note they are also the ones that some say will cure everything but to date have given the least results.

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The debate seems to be moot, at least in this case. From what I can tell from the articles, they are using adult stem cells derived from the womans own fat.
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