Donkey TF Clip at Taylor's (not yet released) - Page 3

dorintf · 07-19-2012

It was pitifully bad. No process, which doesn't bother me that much really. Glued-on pig nose looked painfully unreal. She puts on a sweater during the inflation because that's incredibly realistic. Finally a shot of her laying on the bed semi-nude with four fake plastic boobs stuck to her torso. And that's to say nothing of the 75% of the video that featured nothing but whiny dialogue that became annoying after the 2nd time, migraine-inducing by the 32nd.

Overall, not a fan.

Rei-Lin · 07-19-2012

Man, people still like to give Taylor crap on the pig transformation clip. The idea was based on a story by Mute I believe it was. I wanted Taylor to do only a small part of the story, where Sonja was building up this excitement that this oil was going to turn her into a pig. It was more about that build up and emotion that I wanted her to capture. If I had my way, the clip would have ended right after her squeal, but Taylor tried to finish up the last half of the section of the story I sent her for me as I had waited on the clip for over 2 years.

So basically, she went far beyond what she should have for me, she did her best and that's what's important to me at least. Yes, there's almost no process, but the clip was never meant to be about a girl turning into a pig in the first place. Holly did a great job with the acting I thought, especially for something rarely seen in films at all. I'm sure they'll revisit the idea once they get more into the transformation scene, I guess we'll have to wait and see.

MissCapricorn · 07-20-2012

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Originally Posted by Rei-Lin

Man, people still like to give Taylor crap on the pig transformation clip. The idea was based on a story by Mute I believe it was. I wanted Taylor to do only a small part of the story, where Sonja was building up this excitement that this oil was going to turn her into a pig. It was more about that build up and emotion that I wanted her to capture. If I had my way, the clip would have ended right after her squeal, but Taylor tried to finish up the last half of the section of the story I sent her for me as I had waited on the clip for over 2 years.

So basically, she went far beyond what she should have for me, she did her best and that's what's important to me at least. Yes, there's almost no process, but the clip was never meant to be about a girl turning into a pig in the first place. Holly did a great job with the acting I thought, especially for something rarely seen in films at all. I'm sure they'll revisit the idea once they get more into the transformation scene, I guess we'll have to wait and see.

It's fair that people complain.
They paid $27 for a 15 minute clip. That is a very large dollar to time ratio and quality would be expected.

But was not delivered.

Rei-Lin · 07-20-2012

Well I'm not trying to get anybody upset over this, but if anything Taylor should not have labeled it as a Transformation clip in the traditional sense, so if you have to knock them for anything, it'd be that part of it. The quality of the clip is fine, it's that people were expecting Willow and didn't get it so they get upset about buying it. I guess on one hand I can understand, but I also know this community and a lot of the time people are expecting Hollywood style transformations from a small company that may not be able to deliver it. The community has a lot of knee jerk reactions sometimes and I can relate. Anything new as far as Transformation Material is concerned is easy to want to rush out and buy just for the hope that it's good. But also as of late, I think the community has learned to take anything new being produced from any company with a hesitant approach (though I still rush off and buy the really lame stuff. She wolf transformation? -_-;

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Time will tell as I said, as they've gotten a lot better at what they do, and have been pushing themselves to bring out clips that the community as a whole will enjoy. Hopefully they keep using the preview clips when they post their clips so that people understand more clearly what they're buying ahead of time so they don't feel let down when they find out there's little to no process in a clip. All I'm asking is not to see the money spent as a major loss, but as a learning experience for TMC to get better at it. This Donkey Transformation may end up in a similar fashion to the Pig Transformation if people are expecting Hollywood style effects.

Remember, they do read the forums, and take a lot of the negativity to heart, so before anybody wants to get upset over $27 for fetish material that nobody else produces, ask yourself if you want to see any more of it before being upset enough that TMC stops producing anything at all. That's definitely not what I want to see and I doubt many of you here would want it either. That's all I'm saying. Hopefully you all understand my position on it.

Dayn · 07-20-2012

this discussion has been done before: the general concenssus (bad spelling) was that taylors first attempts at an actual TF were.....subpar and not what anyone was expecting. to still flame over this is pointless. this next attempt is what they are focusing on, and we should leave the past as well. here's hoping eh?

Rei-Lin · 07-20-2012

I agree of course, I'm just trying to make sure people understand that TMC is trying for us, for the community, and I would rather people have constructive criticism over something like "Oh I bought this, it sucks!" Suggestions and meaningful comments are always welcome, as those things help in the growth and evolution of an art form, in this case, fetish type clips. But I'll leave it at that and move on.

On a side note, if people are worried about the next transformation clip coming from TMC, give me a few hours after it's released, and I'll buy it and put my review of the clip here for all to read. I'm a bit biased in TMC's favor of course, but I can also be somewhat nit picky when it comes to their clips. I'll let people know how the clip is overall and point out the things I think people will want to know, so if you're on the fence about it, then wait for me to post on the clip.

dorintf · 07-21-2012

I both see and empathize with your point, bro. And I'm not definitely not going to be one of the people that just says "Well, that sucked" without offering exactly what I thought sucked about it. I certainly didn't expect Willow, and didn't really want Willow either. I expected--and would've been happy with--low quality TF, very little process, a lot of post-TF reaction time, and maybe the bare bones of a storyline leading up to it ("Hey, here's this thing, let me drink it."). I was disappointed on all accounts. In fact, the first fifteen minutes of the video had me embarrassed that I had even purchased it. I routinely buy TF material from artists that charge (in fact, I just bought something), and if I'm ever dissatisfied I'm still happy that I supported a probably-struggling artist and will probably buy the very next thing said artist releases. But I couldn't help but feel in this case that I shoved $27 in the hands of someone that put forth the barest of effort to appeal to a niche fetish community in the hopes of turning a profit. Not that that's a bad thing on it's own, but it's not something I'll be doing again--the quality just wasn't there, and it didn't seem to me like it was attempting to be there.

That was too damn long. Releasing control.

killx · 07-22-2012

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Originally Posted by dorintf

I both see and empathize with your point, bro. And I'm not definitely not going to be one of the people that just says "Well, that sucked" without offering exactly what I thought sucked about it. I certainly didn't expect Willow, and didn't really want Willow either. I expected--and would've been happy with--low quality TF, very little process, a lot of post-TF reaction time, and maybe the bare bones of a storyline leading up to it ("Hey, here's this thing, let me drink it."). I was disappointed on all accounts. In fact, the first fifteen minutes of the video had me embarrassed that I had even purchased it. I routinely buy TF material from artists that charge (in fact, I just bought something), and if I'm ever dissatisfied I'm still happy that I supported a probably-struggling artist and will probably buy the very next thing said artist releases. But I couldn't help but feel in this case that I shoved $27 in the hands of someone that put forth the barest of effort to appeal to a niche fetish community in the hopes of turning a profit. Not that that's a bad thing on it's own, but it's not something I'll be doing again--the quality just wasn't there, and it didn't seem to me like it was attempting to be there.

That was too damn long. Releasing control.

I agree...

But still, she got the script from someone and it seems that it was supposed to be like that, because of the story on docs lab.

I think this time with the donkey tf and the cow tf in the making she will do better.

Besides if nobody tells her at the TMC Forum what people want to see, people will complain about it anyways >.>
She always asks for ideas/scripts and gladly takes good advices. You just have to tell her.

irishshane · 07-24-2012

It's been released. Got to go to work, so I can't get it yet.

TF-Viewer · 07-24-2012

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Originally Posted by irishshane

It's been released. Got to go to work, so I can't get it yet.

Downloading now. I wasn't expecting it so soon, I guess it's a good thing I called in sick today. Well, the being sick part isn't good, but hopefully the video will be. 17 minutes for 15 dollars. I predict a long period of nothing at all happening (edit: Well the TF officially starts to kick in at about 4 minutes 30 seconds with her being hot and itchy and builds up with a lot of her fanning herself with her hand and scratching her legs the real visible changes don't happen for a few more minutes).

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Well, I can say this. It's far better than the pig transformation, far far better. The wardrobe change towards the end didn't make any sense though. I guess they couldn't do the ass expansion effect in the outfit she started with, so I don't see why they just didn't have her in the second outfit from the beginning. Also the tail growth, while nice to see included, was put in a very bad position, after it was done it looked like her tail was growing out of her vagina. Some of the sounds she made were good, but others got ridiculous and I found myself chuckling at them towards the end.

Overall, good. Still way better than the pig TF. But by no means perfect. Worth $15? Not sure, but maybe. Had the weird outfit change not occurred and had the tail grown from a more logical place, and if towards the end (not the whole time, just the final few seconds) they had simply played audio of an actual donkey instead of having her mimic one it would have been even better. And maybe since she complained about being too hot they could have used very simple techniques to make her appear to be sweating, that can be done with a spray bottle filled with a mixture of water and glycerine. That effect can go a long way with making the feel of the scene more authentic, and it's super cheap to do.

I get they wanted to do a stocking tearing scene but couldn't if she'd been in the black pants, but couldn't do the ass expansion in the skirt.. but the sudden change in costume, especially since her hands had already been replaced with hooves at that point just really throws the continuity of the scene off. Seeing her normal ears at the same time as the donkey ears throws things off a bit too, thankfully it appears they caught that and covered them up with a wig later. I know it might seem weird to critique fetish porn.. but honestly I'm bored and I paid for my copy so I think I'm more than entitled to speak my mind on the little details that nagged at my mind while watching.

But to be clear, yes I still liked it a lot. Painful, slow, involuntary female transformation= good. I don't get how the BE fit in there though, guess people took a vote on what they wanted to see.. apparently there's an alternate futa version in the works too and c'mon there had to be.

Rei-Lin · 07-24-2012

Hey all, since it's released, I wasn't going to do my usual thing, but what the heck!
Jenny ASS Velvet Price: $15.00 USD
Jenny Velvet gets a present of special herbal tea from a business partner so she tries it out and suffers disturbing consequences as she transforms into a Donkey. There is a FUTA version coming soon.

My two cents? CoCo is starring in this one, and I like her a lot. Her acting is what sells the clip to be honest and as TF-Viewer has said, it is better than the Pig Transformation clip. Again though, I would stress that the Pig TF was their first outing and wasn't really meant to show a full on Pig TF to start with. Anyway, the effects in this one are all very make-up based more than prop based but that may have been the intention to start with. They use make-up to sort of simulate the hooves of her hands and feet, which I think works well, though I would have loved to have seen some hoof type prop used for it just to sell the effect a little more.

The donkey ears look a little bit odd and as TF-Viewer pointed out, the tail she grows does appear to be in a very awkward place. I'm not sure how they would have made it look much better but if I had any suggestion for it, I probably would have shown some hair growing from the base of her spine along her spine and up under the shirt, to sell the tail growing from the base of her spine, out of her pants. That way they could have shown the tail popping out of her pants in the close up, then showed it ripped out of the pants along her spine attached to the make-up effects on her back. However, as usual I'm being nitpicky here, the way they did it works, just looks a bit off.

TF-Viewer also mentioned that she has a sudden change of clothing, which is true, but to get the ass expansion in there, they had to change her outfit. I agree that perhaps they should have started her in a different outfit from the beginning so that they could have used the same clothes all the way through, but I think one thing that may have happened, was that Taylor asked for suggestions on her forums, and at the last minute somebody asked for a little ass expansion, and she included it at the end and then had to figure out a way to do it at the last minute.

Overall, the clip itself is yet another stepping stone to larger projects and more transformation clips. It's better than their Pig Transformation, it's far and away better than that She-Wolf Transformation thing from that other site posted in the Transformation Section of the forums, and I think it's a nice leap forward with the make-up, the actress and the acting. I'm giving this clip a 9 out of 10. It's definitely unique and fun, with only small quirks that make it seem a bit odd. For the $15 I think it's a good buy and fuels future Transformation projects. Taylor is getting better and better, as is Bud and the whole crew, and I think they're definitely worth supporting! Props to Taylor and keep up the great work! <3

killx · 07-24-2012

I have to wait a week, need money first =P
but I will definitely buy it, to support TMC!

07-19-2012	#25
dorintf Process Master Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 709	Re: Donkey TF Clip at Taylor's (not yet released) It was pitifully bad. No process, which doesn't bother me that much really. Glued-on pig nose looked painfully unreal. She puts on a sweater during the inflation because that's incredibly realistic. Finally a shot of her laying on the bed semi-nude with four fake plastic boobs stuck to her torso. And that's to say nothing of the 75% of the video that featured nothing but whiny dialogue that became annoying after the 2nd time, migraine-inducing by the 32nd. Overall, not a fan.

07-19-2012	#26
Rei-Lin Process Master Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 614	Re: Donkey TF Clip at Taylor's (not yet released) Man, people still like to give Taylor crap on the pig transformation clip. The idea was based on a story by Mute I believe it was. I wanted Taylor to do only a small part of the story, where Sonja was building up this excitement that this oil was going to turn her into a pig. It was more about that build up and emotion that I wanted her to capture. If I had my way, the clip would have ended right after her squeal, but Taylor tried to finish up the last half of the section of the story I sent her for me as I had waited on the clip for over 2 years. So basically, she went far beyond what she should have for me, she did her best and that's what's important to me at least. Yes, there's almost no process, but the clip was never meant to be about a girl turning into a pig in the first place. Holly did a great job with the acting I thought, especially for something rarely seen in films at all. I'm sure they'll revisit the idea once they get more into the transformation scene, I guess we'll have to wait and see.

07-20-2012	#28
Rei-Lin Process Master Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 614	Re: Donkey TF Clip at Taylor's (not yet released) Well I'm not trying to get anybody upset over this, but if anything Taylor should not have labeled it as a Transformation clip in the traditional sense, so if you have to knock them for anything, it'd be that part of it. The quality of the clip is fine, it's that people were expecting Willow and didn't get it so they get upset about buying it. I guess on one hand I can understand, but I also know this community and a lot of the time people are expecting Hollywood style transformations from a small company that may not be able to deliver it. The community has a lot of knee jerk reactions sometimes and I can relate. Anything new as far as Transformation Material is concerned is easy to want to rush out and buy just for the hope that it's good. But also as of late, I think the community has learned to take anything new being produced from any company with a hesitant approach (though I still rush off and buy the really lame stuff. She wolf transformation? -_-;. Time will tell as I said, as they've gotten a lot better at what they do, and have been pushing themselves to bring out clips that the community as a whole will enjoy. Hopefully they keep using the preview clips when they post their clips so that people understand more clearly what they're buying ahead of time so they don't feel let down when they find out there's little to no process in a clip. All I'm asking is not to see the money spent as a major loss, but as a learning experience for TMC to get better at it. This Donkey Transformation may end up in a similar fashion to the Pig Transformation if people are expecting Hollywood style effects. Remember, they do read the forums, and take a lot of the negativity to heart, so before anybody wants to get upset over $27 for fetish material that nobody else produces, ask yourself if you want to see any more of it before being upset enough that TMC stops producing anything at all. That's definitely not what I want to see and I doubt many of you here would want it either. That's all I'm saying. Hopefully you all understand my position on it. Last edited by Rei-Lin; 07-20-2012 at 06:53 AM.

07-20-2012	#29
Dayn Yaiba no Genkaku Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: wandering through oncoming traffic, lost in deep thought Posts: 216	Re: Donkey TF Clip at Taylor's (not yet released) this discussion has been done before: the general concenssus (bad spelling) was that taylors first attempts at an actual TF were.....subpar and not what anyone was expecting. to still flame over this is pointless. this next attempt is what they are focusing on, and we should leave the past as well. here's hoping eh? __________________ http://onnachance.com/quiz/qz4.php

07-20-2012	#30
Rei-Lin Process Master Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 614	Re: Donkey TF Clip at Taylor's (not yet released) I agree of course, I'm just trying to make sure people understand that TMC is trying for us, for the community, and I would rather people have constructive criticism over something like "Oh I bought this, it sucks!" Suggestions and meaningful comments are always welcome, as those things help in the growth and evolution of an art form, in this case, fetish type clips. But I'll leave it at that and move on. On a side note, if people are worried about the next transformation clip coming from TMC, give me a few hours after it's released, and I'll buy it and put my review of the clip here for all to read. I'm a bit biased in TMC's favor of course, but I can also be somewhat nit picky when it comes to their clips. I'll let people know how the clip is overall and point out the things I think people will want to know, so if you're on the fence about it, then wait for me to post on the clip.

07-21-2012	#31
dorintf Process Master Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 709	Re: Donkey TF Clip at Taylor's (not yet released) I both see and empathize with your point, bro. And I'm not definitely not going to be one of the people that just says "Well, that sucked" without offering exactly what I thought sucked about it. I certainly didn't expect Willow, and didn't really want Willow either. I expected--and would've been happy with--low quality TF, very little process, a lot of post-TF reaction time, and maybe the bare bones of a storyline leading up to it ("Hey, here's this thing, let me drink it."). I was disappointed on all accounts. In fact, the first fifteen minutes of the video had me embarrassed that I had even purchased it. I routinely buy TF material from artists that charge (in fact, I just bought something), and if I'm ever dissatisfied I'm still happy that I supported a probably-struggling artist and will probably buy the very next thing said artist releases. But I couldn't help but feel in this case that I shoved $27 in the hands of someone that put forth the barest of effort to appeal to a niche fetish community in the hopes of turning a profit. Not that that's a bad thing on it's own, but it's not something I'll be doing again--the quality just wasn't there, and it didn't seem to me like it was attempting to be there. That was too damn long. Releasing control.

07-24-2012	#33
irishshane Frequent Poster Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 145	Re: Donkey TF Clip at Taylor's (not yet released) It's been released. Got to go to work, so I can't get it yet.

07-24-2012	#36
killx Frequent Poster Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 131	Re: Donkey TF Clip at Taylor's (not yet released) I have to wait a week, need money first =P but I will definitely buy it, to support TMC! Last edited by killx; 07-24-2012 at 10:55 AM.