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Old 10-01-2005   #25
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No offense Se?or Skiff...
but it's a tad too sharp for my likings, it appears as if they are tense and ready to fight...
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Old 10-01-2005   #26
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That most recent page is done pretty well. I don't know if it was intentional or not, but the punch and the kick make a nice psychic line that communicates the lateral movement of the intended panel flow. I didn't have any trouble figuriong out the panel order this time, very natural.

I'd like to see the revised page 2 if you've got it, or are you planning on reposting the whole first part with word bubbles, etc.?
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Old 10-02-2005   #27
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Tense and ready to fight? … The last page I posted they “are” fighting.
I wanted this story would be different. Rather then Boy meets Girl. Boy slips Girl “BE” pills. Girl busts out of shirt. Boy and Girl have sex. Girl hits Boy with giant wood mallet. Besides, my story has action with busty girls, and transformations. But I get what you’re saying. I think I’m loosing points because no one can read my hand writing. I don’t blame them.

Good news though. I’m going to finish 2 more pages and end this first part of the story.
I’ll take the time to go back and draw my final lines. Then rescan them, color and add computer text so they can be read.

Now I finished the next page, breaking the “tension” with a punch line joke featuring the Mythbusters. If anyone watches Discovery Channel (our North American viewers) or anyone abroad that knows them. If you don’t you probably won’t find this as funny as I did.

Moving on.

If you were looking for hardcore sex, keep walking. There are lots of other websites to choose from out there. (That, and I can’t draw it well.) I’ve though more along the lines of over sexed super heroin / super villain stuff. Which, I don’t see a lot of.

And I’m giving the panel layout more thought lately. I think I only really screwed up page 2.

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Old 10-03-2005   #28
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still looking good, both of the new pages are good quality and the story is indeed unique- I enjoy the creativity of it ^_^
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Old 10-04-2005   #29
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Drawing is improving. I like it.


The Mythbusters Rule!!

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Old 10-05-2005   #30
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Not sure if you can use this, but i can reduce stuff like this to lineart.

I've also attached the .ai file for if you have illustrator, though you can open them in photoshop (it's in a zip, as the forum won't let me attach .ai files).

Bear in mind that i haven't fine tuned this. Some of the lines don't quite match up perfectly. If you want me to, i can polish it up, as well as do the rest.

Eventually, i'll probably take a poke at colouring as well, though not tonight (this took 2 hours as it is).

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Old 10-05-2005   #31
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not bad at all keep up the good work
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Old 10-05-2005   #32
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The only problem about lineart is that it lacks life. It kinda looks like someone drew it on MSpaint. It would need some shading and possibly color to make it good.
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Old 10-05-2005   #33
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I know, i just wanted to know if you could use the cleaned up lineart, especially since it's been vectorised.
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Old 10-07-2005   #34
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Page 10 sketched. One more to go before I go back and finalize the rest and color.

Speaking of color, thanks for the effort on the line art. Unfortunately I found that method long and less effective then my own. I said it twice but I’ll say it again. I use Paint Shop Pro 5. It’s old, but damned if it works. And the process I use isn’t exclusive to PSP either. It can be applied to any program that has similar actions. Let me explain. “REF01” is the sketch layer. (If you’re not familiar with layers. Certain programs support layers. Multiple pages in one image allowing for drawings on top of drawings so they “blend” together but are entirely separate so you can work on one without effecting the other.)
So REF01 is the sketch. After I finish drawing (which is the longest of the process) I scan the drawing using my $60 HP ScanJet 2300c Scanner. I scan the drawing at 200% its standard size in the software. Which as a bonus works well with PSP5. After adjusting light I get REF01. I like to leave some page paper grain. (you’ll see). Next, Duplicate the sketch into another layer. Original sketch on top of the copy. Now I use the Brightness / Contrast tool to make the copy pure Black and white “REF02”. There will be white pixels in the black space. They can be cleaned out later. Now the nifty part. I set the original sketch layer to “Multiply” which makes everything that isn’t black transparent. (the level of black = amount of transparency.) then you have “REF03” showing the B&W layer showing through the sketch layer. Cool. Now I turn off the Sketch layer so I only see the B&W layer. Create a new layer “color” then go crazy with flood fill tool. (Set it to paint between the lines.) “REF04”. Another Bi-Product of layers is that there is Nothing unless something is added. So when I flood fill on the color layer just the sections that are colored exist. (Here’s where I fix the B&W layer to look like it does in “REF02”) Set a bounding “dancing ant” box to “select all” then “float” (selecting around just he colored sections. Beats doing it manually) Same tool “invert” so all the negative space is now selected. Now switch layers to B&W. Use the selection tool to deselect the white space around the drawing. The results, just the areas that are supposed to be black are selected. All the little white dots that appear in the drawn area when converting anything to B&W are also selected. (Hours of work in 5 min.) Then I grab the flood fill paint tool. Select an appropriate shade of gray and set it to fill all. Now I have a SOLID gray “B&W” sketch with no inner defects. The end result basically ends up as “REF04”

Half done. Now the shading. Using a boundary tool that acts like the flood fill paint tool is invaluable. Create a new “shading layer”. Boundary an area you wish to shade. Eye’s Arms, Bewbs. Select the “spray can” tool. I use a 10% pressure with standard soft tool marks to shade. More control. Primary color is the color I used on the color layer as the base “light color”. Pull up the color palate for the secondary darker color. Same color area except darker. (This depends on the effect you want, play with it) DING! “REF05”. Just think of how light acts on a ball, that’s how I shade. (layers are also good because if you screw up only one of these processes you don’t screw up the whole image. Just start again from the beginning of what ever process is messed.) Lets see what we got so far with all layers turned on. “REF06” Does that not look wicked awesome. Let’s continue…

For Light bloom effect. Copy your shade layer to another layer “bloom” and use a Blur tool. (PSP5 I use Gaussian Blur. Basically a blur of the image with very soft edges.) then we have “REF07” the blurred layer on it’s own is “REF08”

Now you’re thinking that it still has hard edged lines. (Save your work) Then Pancake the sucker. Merge all Layers so it now “IS” one image. Then resize the image to about 40%-50% of the original size. Depending on the size of the sketch, too small looks pixilated.
Then the final image looks something like “REF09”

Soft Lines, Shading, and light bloom.
I got it down to about 25 min at most, for the full image of this example.

The comic pages might take an hour or two. I still didn’t do any CG Backgrounds yet. The “set” won’t take long. Maybe 3 hours or so. (Not to boast or anything. It’s not that hard when you know what you’re doing.

So think I can rap up some loose ends in the last page? What will happen? How will Joanna and Kat escape? Will I come up with a name for this comic? Will it continue? (yes) What will be the big Cliff Hanger be? Is it a Cliff Hanger? Tune in soon, same Bat time, same Bat channel…

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Old 10-08-2005   #35
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Yea, i realise that you are using the overlay method.

My comment was essentially related to the fact that the line art is a bit too light, being grey, rather than black. It looks sort of odd.

Perhaps crank up the contrast a bit.
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Old 10-09-2005   #36
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Regardless how the processing part looks… The final result is darkened lines… not too black… I like to see some pencil markings. Adds texture.

Sorry If I come off as an ass in my posts… I just try to post as much info as possible so as to answer most questions for everybody. I’ll post the cleaned up sketches anyway, as well as the colored ones. So if you would like them colored different or darker lines, go to town on my sketches and color them the way you want. (Just please don’t post them elsewhere / claim the drawing as your own, keep them to yourself or within the process forum. Thanks.)

Annnnnnd on to the update.

Page 11. End of the first part of the story. I think I’ll call it… Ecstasy Helix “Genesis” Has a nice ring to it. (If anyone has another suggestion for a name that doesn’t sound corny, go for it.)

I think this was a good intro story. I’ll get the text filled in as soon as I clean up the other pages and scan them. I’ll post them as I go (or try to) as opposed to waiting till I’m done them all to post.

This only took me, what. Four weeks? Oh well. I think I’m getting the beat down.
For anyone who wanted to see more transformation, and growth. Part 2 will have that.
Mind you they are in an underground lab. So I can only make them so big. I had a scene in mind. It’ll be a trans-furry growth. (About 10ft-12ft). Just a heads up. Part 2 Ecstasy Helix “Mutation”.

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