Evil conversion(for the lack for better term)

[rick404]

Yeah its not EC. Mind control yes, but no corruption...More like "I can't stop dancing to that music" business going on...

There are a few sequences with process and serial conversion but its not really TF...Runs along the same vein as Bimbo stuff...

I am still amazed how many runs the subject has made on /d...equally amazed how many characters have been haigured...seems almost Rule 34ish...

+1 for Mind Control/Hypnosis
-1 for the pose
+1 for Leotards/Bodysuits
-1 for the pose

[Mazoku]

Originally Posted by rick404

Yeah its not EC. Mind control yes, but no corruption...More like "I can't stop dancing to that music" business going on...

Well the full effect does actually make the victims loyal servants of an evil overlord, and they are capable of fairly sophisticated actions and thoughts, even pretending to be normal to infiltrate the good guys base in the Shin Chan movie for example. I wouldn't say the Haigure-ray is truly transformative, just an MC ray with a swimsuit/leotard tf add-on. I would say it's probably too borderline to really fit here anyway.

I'd certainly like to see more of it somewhere though.

[Ficfactor]

Originally Posted by rick404

Yeah its not EC. Mind control yes, but no corruption

I love this stuff, but I'll admit, it's definitely more of an mc than a corruption bent. However, many sequences (particularly the Custom Girl ones) do go out of their way to show that the "Haigure'd" girl is now enjoying her state and would be more than happy to share it with others. So there is some corruption to it, but not as a rule.

I'd be happy if it became a staple here, but I accept that it's so inconsistent, that one really wouldn't be justified in making a fuss if it didn't.

[Xanderfox]

lets not forget it would FURTHER dilute the topic.

[Ficfactor]

Originally Posted by Xanderfox

lets not forget it would FURTHER dilute the topic.

That too. No, this is probably better off staying in its dedicated threads on various imageboards.

[kyuven]

Haigure is like a bun. On its own, it's just bread, but when combined with some meat and condiments that is EC, it becomes a burger.
But, on it's own, it's just bread :3

[CaptainHidethread]

Originally Posted by rick404

Yeah its not EC. Mind control yes, but no corruption...More like "I can't stop dancing to that music" business going on...

There are a few sequences with process and serial conversion but its not really TF...Runs along the same vein as Bimbo stuff...

I am still amazed how many runs the subject has made on /d...equally amazed how many characters have been haigured...seems almost Rule 34ish...

+1 for Mind Control/Hypnosis
-1 for the pose
+1 for Leotards/Bodysuits
-1 for the pose

Well I do have sequences that imply corruption. I even posted some sets in the "3D custom girl" and "corruption futa (3D custom girl only)" threads over at hypnochan.

[Ficfactor]

Originally Posted by Mazoku

Another little piece of info gleaned from Hongfire; there's a video of the bad end of the Aisaiga Flash game where the team become bad guys, here:
It's still just a sequence of stills but it has audio.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=615442SC

This is great. It's really much better to have the audio rather than just the stills themselves.

Cheers.

[rick404]

Given the sheer number of Haigure stuff I'd say it would need its own thread and agree it should be "Everything Else." 6+ 4chan threads in 1 week, plus Hypnochan, and pixiv. Problem is its all the same thing (it gets old fast.) some of the pics were just repost the same pic with a different color leotard, a different expression, or shop on another character's head...

Corruption is the key:

Mind Control/Mind Break are not the same as Corruption.

Corruption implies a twisting/degradation of morals and appearance which for most purposes is Good turned to Evil.

Mind Control typically has an on/off switch and does not really reach into the character's core personality.

Brainwashing implies a bit more reprogramming to it and can border closer to EC.

Mind Break is when a character is abused until they don't care anymore and ends up as a mental vegetable...While that is Evil, it is not the character being turned to Evil...

There were a few Haigure pics with EC themes (ie Aile from Megaman/Rockman turned villain henchman) but for the most part its just Mind Control the EC is a small percentage.

Throwing the Ganguro for comparison I support that as corruption only within a certain parameter which is the before/after good girl to bad girl. I don't go for a ganguro just as a ganguro girl (find it pretty disturbing) but as a normal clean girl changed to a ganguro girl. Changes need to include Personality change (foul language, selfish behavior, looses self-respect, minor femdom) and Body augmentation (breast expansion, forced tan, piercing, tattoo, in some there a bit of weight gain)

[pajamavamp]

Heya guys,

I've still been lurking here, enjoying all the additions and postings. Thought I'd chime in on EC vs non EC. I think this thread does a pretty great job about parsing through what is and is not EC. A much better job than say the 2chan weekly thread even.

I have to say before I created VampYou when Id search for content how much of a bummer it was to find vampire TF only for their not to be an evil conversion, that they retained their senses or whatever, it was the worst.

So as a result when it comes to EC I've kind of become what I'd like to call a fundamentalist, my views on what is EC line up heavily with rick404 and Xanderfox.

The Vampire theme offers clear rules that I can use where clear EC is always visibly present. Whether it's a complete dissolution of self and rebirth as a creature like vampire, or personality intact but now willfully evil. Vampires offer constant reinforcement of that to the viewer, whether with physical changes, or when they encounter a cross, or some other item that posed no threat to them before becoming a vampire.

Being able to commission high quality work myself has been extremely liberating in this sense. I appreciate this thread and everyone's effort to keep only high quality EC the focus.

sooo, that said, I offer some exclusive goodies, here's some work from the upcoming RAGs game that will be available to VampYou members once finished. I posted some of these on my forums, but you guys are getting the Before pic as well, to highlight the EC going on

[Mazoku]

Originally Posted by pajamavamp

Heya guys,
The Vampire theme offers clear rules that I can use where clear EC is always visibly present. Whether it's a complete dissolution of self and rebirth as a creature like vampire, or personality intact but now willfully evil. Vampires offer constant reinforcement of that to the viewer, whether with physical changes, or when they encounter a cross, or some other item that posed no threat to them before becoming a vampire.

Yes, well that's the "nice" thing about vampirism, and other conversions through magic or the supernatural. You get a radical change of the character at the most fundamental levels with a corruption of the whole package; mind, body, and soul. The idea that someone has become evil spiritually sort of raises EC far above mind control in terms of transformation.

Thanks for the cool goodies. Have you thought about watermarking your offerings here if you want to keep your material exclusive though?












Humor/ecchi/fantasy manga by Itoh Sei, "Nirvana Panic":
(There's a lot more back-and-forth tf-ing, but this is the first.)

[pajamavamp]

Anything I put out on the web I automatically assume will find it's way everywhere else and on to plenty of other sites. I think about it almost as advertisement at this point.

Like Vampire Sailor Moon part 1 and 2 have widely been taken since Loco had posted them on his forums back when, it's no prob, just a commercial for parts 4-8 which can't be found anywhere else.

But yeah putting VampYou on there would prob make it easier for people to track back my goodies to my site.