Giantess Zone Growth & Info Thread

[BudapestSwopeJr]

Originally Posted by Racerx135

LorKeep Asked me not to respond to it so to be Fair I asked for it to be deleted then.
But I guess I gotta respond (Ill keep it nice)

I like and respect Lorekeep. He 100% for the cause of this community. I cannot think of a good reason why he would delete my post but I will not repost it. None of the emails we exchanged today and this evening said anything about NOT posting on this subject.

I want to try and make this simple and VERY nice.

TIMELINE

-You made growth clips.

-Taylor and myself not even aware of growth clips

-You make more carbon copies of the same growth clips

-Taylor and myself become aware of growth clips and I contact Lorekeep about possibly making one together

-You make more carbon copies of the same growth clips

-Lorekeep emails me and says he'd like us to make a growth clip which results in the release of "Taylor Grows Very Drunk" which does extremely well and shows a concerted effort to produce something of quality and not be derivative.

-You make more carbon copies of the same growth clips

-Mistress Taylor Presents releases "Orgasmic Growth" and then "Growing Busty" which again do extremely well and show a concerted effort to produce something of quality and not be derivative.

-You suddenly feel the need to ask the members of the community what they want to see and even though they have been saying the same things for quite awhile(like in that thread you keep linking to as if thats the only time anyone has ever said anything about your clips) YOU SUDDENLY DECIDE THEY ARE IMPORTANT ENOUGH TO LISTEN TO!

-You make another carbon copy of the same growth clips except this time you add shots you copy almost exactly from Taylor's clips and announce there is a lot more of that great stuff on the way.

-Offense is taken from the Taylor camp after viewing the high priced clip with the padded running time and I come here and post about the similiarities.

-You post a list of sources you could have emulated since you started making the carbon copies but for some reason have brought up now as if its IN ANY WAY RELATED TO THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE

A LOOK INTO THE FUTURE

-You make more carbon copies of the same "Taylor" growth clips



I know posting my gripes about your clip here was a bad move for us in a business sense. But we aren't just about the bottom line. Frequently to our own detriment we actually care about what people think and say about what we make.

We have been doing this long enough to know the community loves more and more product to choose from and my post here may be seen as something that may harm that goal.

But its happened to us in other fetishes where we produce something really good and it raises the bar for other producers who monetarily get hurt when that happens.

They can either get out of cruise control and actually try and be creative again(Its called competition) or they can look at what we have done, copy it repeatedly and because of their entrenched position take back the control of their marketplace until the threat is extinguished.

Of course then you will try to create something new and different for the community right Gary?

[kuenbu]

We went from having nothing to having two production companies fighting to out do each other to drop the better clip. I hope Hollywood is watching.
That Village of the Giants remake staring Meagan Good can't be too far off now.

[Anahki]

I don't see where the problem is... this happens everyday everywhere, and the solution is quite simple: doing better products = more people buying and more money. If there is some copyright infrigment you can complain about it to the authorities, else...
But IMHO, there is enough market for two (or three) companies for this market because: 1.-Until some time ago, this was a "virgin" market.
2.-The "growth fans" will be more than interested in buying everythig you can do with a minimum quality, and even more if you listen to them.
So, you will spend your time better making movies than critizising each other.

P.S.: I like your works (both of them ).

[FireStorm]

Now this is just my opinion, but I think black stockings give a better contrast to the skin than tan ones do, in fact any color would be better than tan.

[Racerx135]

Originally Posted by BudapestSwopeJr

I know posting my gripes about your clip here was a bad move for us in a business sense. But we aren't just about the bottom line. Frequently to our own detriment we actually care about what people think and say about what we make.

OK Bud I'm giving you the last word on this.

I will make no effort to delete your comments or make any more responses to them long as you say more in return. you stated your case pretty clear and I will leave it at that.

Now lets get to work making Clips again.

Again sorry things did not work out. I wish you the best in the future.

[Angelus]

OK, both of you back to your corners and back on topic.

Since the topic of discussion was Alexia, did anyone notice that she has more than a passing resemblance to Joy Harmon?

So recommendation #1 - tight button down blue sweater.

Spray her with baby oil or water to give the illusion she's sweating. If she was growing "for real", it would be an exhausting process.

Heavy breathing - a close up of her chest heaving

Don't be "Oh no, I'm growing..." Have a little "umph" in front of it. Watch American Werewolf in London or something similar. Acting wise, this is a strange and weird occurence.

More growth from reverse, even it's just watching the shoulders moving around as the tears in the back of the shirt grow.

Multiple growth in one clip. Maybe she's wearing a different outfit and grows out of that?

Frederick's of Hollywood Extreme Cleavage Bra.

Just some ideas...

[Racerx135]

Originally Posted by Angelus

OK, both of you back to your corners and back on topic.

Since the topic of discussion was Alexia, did anyone notice that she has more than a passing resemblance to Joy Harmon?

So recommendation #1 - tight button down blue sweater.

Spray her with baby oil or water to give the illusion she's sweating. If she was growing "for real", it would be an exhausting process.

Heavy breathing - a close up of her chest heaving

Don't be "Oh no, I'm growing..." Have a little "umph" in front of it. Watch American Werewolf in London or something similar. Acting wise, this is a strange and weird occurence.

More growth from reverse, even it's just watching the shoulders moving around as the tears in the back of the shirt grow.

Multiple growth in one clip. Maybe she's wearing a different outfit and grows out of that?

Frederick's of Hollywood Extreme Cleavage Bra.

Just some ideas...

sounds like a plan. We will try it. We are also working on the Hair growth mentioned earlier and Think we got a solution for it.

I must have watched Joy Harmon in Village of the giants 4000 times since I first saw on TV in 1976. (I was like 9.)





Thanks again.

[LK]

Yes, I deleted the last posts because Gary asked and I'd prefer the discussion was taken into private. Besides, we have a Flame and Bullshit forum for this type of stuff.

Not going to express my opinions other than if you guys are going to keep trading barbs, do it in another thread.

[Bozo]

Bud, I can see why you're angry but you have to look at it in this way:

What you guys do is an artform, and just like all artforms, ideas will be mimicked, recycled, and eventually interpreted into something new and better. Sometimes it will be by your own hand, other times another artist will do it. I'll point to the example of music, rock in particular, of which I know intimately. The sounds of successful bands are copied frequently. The Beatles took inspiration from 50s rock n rol, asd did the Stones, and they went on to influence generations. Coming up to the present, you have a band like Nirvana and the rest of the 80s-90s Seatle rock scene which were actively trying to mimick the past "Arena Rock" sound which was often associated with Glam Bands. Or even look at a newer sound like that of Chris Cornell of Soundgarden and Audioslave fame. You can't say he wasn't directly influenced by Robert Plant of Led Zepplin.

The point I'm trying to make is that you can take solace in the fact that no matter what or who comes after you, you will always be the Groundbreaker, the First, if you will. Just like Audioslave does not diminish Led Zepplin in any way, GrowthDreams will not diminish TaylorMadeClips. And whatever comes after GrowthDreams will not diminish Pranzo. Great art is great art, Period. If it's good, people will buy it. Sure, we're all on a budget but it's not like we have one clip to buy for the rest of our lives. If I've got two great clips in front of me, I'll make a decision and pick one, then in a week or two I'll get the next! Simple!

[FireStorm]

I think its important to mention that even if content right now is not as great or as specialised as we would like, we still need to keep purchasing clips whenever we can afford to in order to allow these groups to keep working and fine-tuning their ideas, so that this industry can be given a chance to get off the ground.They do also have commitments to other fetishes as well, so they cannot put all their tim, money, and energy into just ours.

[BudapestSwopeJr]

Originally Posted by Bozo

Bud, I can see why you're angry but you have to look at it in this way:

What you guys do is an artform, and just like all artforms, ideas will be mimicked, recycled, and eventually interpreted into something new and better. Sometimes it will be by your own hand, other times another artist will do it. I'll point to the example of music, rock in particular, of which I know intimately. The sounds of successful bands are copied frequently. The Beatles took inspiration from 50s rock n rol, asd did the Stones, and they went on to influence generations. Coming up to the present, you have a band like Nirvana and the rest of the 80s-90s Seatle rock scene which were actively trying to mimick the past "Arena Rock" sound which was often associated with Glam Bands. Or even look at a newer sound like that of Chris Cornell of Soundgarden and Audioslave fame. You can't say he wasn't directly influenced by Robert Plant of Led Zepplin.

I do appreciate your comments but this is not an instance of something as general and vague as the "sounds" being emulated. This is MUCH more like Queen & Vanilla Ice or Rick James & Mc Hammer as a relatively small but hugely important "riff" was copied by the nominally talented "musicians" for commercial exploitation in their normally forgettable songs.

Originally Posted by Bozo

The point I'm trying to make is that you can take solace in the fact that no matter what or who comes after you, you will always be the Groundbreaker, the First, if you will. Just like Audioslave does not diminish Led Zepplin in any way, GrowthDreams will not diminish TaylorMadeClips. And whatever comes after GrowthDreams will not diminish Pranzo. Great art is great art, Period. If it's good, people will buy it. Sure, we're all on a budget but it's not like we have one clip to buy for the rest of our lives. If I've got two great clips in front of me, I'll make a decision and pick one, then in a week or two I'll get the next! Simple!

Sure I see what you are saying like I see where Anahki is coming from and I think we all agree on the main issue here but as fans you of course are going to be thrilled with the "competition" and Taylor and I of course have no choice but to try and make even better stuff(which is always what we try and do) because the only way for some to compete is to duplicate and flood the marketplace ad nauseam.

We have a lot of pride in our originality and our level of quality we try to achieve with our product. The thing is if some of our "competitors" had even half the amount of pride as we do there would be SO MUCH LESS duplication and that would keep the scales balanced in a monetary sense. But obviously thats just not the case.

[Racerx135]

BudapestSwopeJr

Please make that your last post about this here. Lorkeep asked us like three times not to discuss it. and I gave you the last word and have not commented.

You stated all your points pretty clearly at this point and those posts remain for all to see and I left them to stay unchallenged.

so please lets move on.