Donkey TF Clip at Taylor's (not yet released)

[TF-Viewer]

Originally Posted by RoyPlayer

I really feel like it depends on the animal. A rabbit should probably be pleasant or at least neutral, while animals like tigers and wolves should definitely involve some pain and terror.

I don't see why turning into a rabbit should be less shocking or painful than turning into any other animal. When it's happening the person isn't going to know or even understand that they're turning into anything specific. They just know they're changing and it shouldn't be happening and they can't stop it. When someone just seems to suddenly become aware of exactly what's happening and knows exactly what animal they're becoming it tends to ruin the scene. "oh no I'm turning into a <insert animal>" is a horrible line to read. Worse yet is "oh joy I'm turning into a <insert animal>". It shouldn't happen, they shouldn't know what's going on and they shouldn't like it. AWIL wasn't good because David liked being a werewolf, he didn't enjoy turning into one, and it wouldn't have set the bar so high for transformation scenes if he had.

Part of what I liked about the donkey TF is that she never acknowledged what she was becoming or even hinted that she knew what the end result would be. She was reacting to a series of impossible things happening to her body but it was never indicated that she'd put the pieces together in her head that she was actually transforming into a donkey. I didn't like the pig TF because; she wanted to be a pig, and she liked it and she let the audience know all that the entire time. It would ruin the scene if that happened again.

[vincent_richter]

Originally Posted by TF-Viewer

I hate TFs that go like that. Start out with fear and panic then the person ends up liking it, that's the worst way it could go in my opinion.

Well, that's your opinion, and as such you're entitled to it. However, I would like to counter with the "native" wolves from Being Human; they seemed to rather enjoy themselves, although it's a fair point that they weren't exactly fearful of the change, either. Perhaps pleasure isn't the right word, though I temper that with the knowledge that Taylor and her girls sometimes are rather "expectant" of the change; I still think that there's a lot of transformation ground to cover between "lives in absolute terror of it" and "looks forward to every minute of it".

If nothing else, she could start out afraid, then... I dunno... resign herself to it? That seems rather a harsh description, but it can come off quite good with the right actress and script.

[TF-Viewer]

Originally Posted by vincent_richter

If nothing else, she could start out afraid, then... I dunno... resign herself to it? That seems rather a harsh description, but it can come off quite good with the right actress and script.

That could work, as long as she isn't all happy a cheerful during it and it doesn't end with her smiling and relaxing at the end. Too many sequences on FA and transfur are ruined by endings like those.

"Oh no what's happening" at the start "I guess this isn't so bad" at the end, that's the worst. It would take longer than 30 seconds for a person to adjust to something like that. So if you're suggesting she could be afraid but eventually just give up trying to fight and go with it, but not be happy with the result, that would be okay.

[vincent_richter]

Originally Posted by TF-Viewer

"Oh no what's happening" at the start "I guess this isn't so bad" at the end, that's the worst. It would take longer than 30 seconds for a person to adjust to something like that. So if you're suggesting she could be afraid but eventually just give up trying to fight and go with it, but not be happy with the result, that would be okay.

Good point on your side, it took Nora what, six hour-long episodes to be remotely comfortable with the idea of being a werewolf? I suppose it'd take more than six minutes for someone to adjust to the idea of being a rabbit / rabbit-hominid. Either way, I look forward to seeing how she handles the transformation.

[Cursebearer]

I have to say, I'm a huge fan of painful transformations. That said, I honestly find a bunny TF to be more appropriate as a pleasurable TF if being perfectly honest, in the same way I find it odd when a werewolf TF is pleasurable rather than painful. The bunny immediately brings to mind the idea of the sexy bunny, and I'm not sure that meshes so well with pain.

Then again, I generally don't enjoy TFs into non-predatory creatures very much, so there you go. I'll buy it regardless to encourage them to make that painful werewolf TF I've been crossing my fingers for.

[digitalcirce]

I like both voluntary and involuntary TFs. I'd hate to think that they all had to be one or the other. I loved the donkey TF video, and like others have said, a lot of that was the fantastic job the actress did conveying her distress. That said, I'd like a video about a woman who wants to join a magician friend's act so much that she finds a way to turn herself into a rabbit, willing and eager every step of the way, just as much.

[Craper]

It's always good to throw out a little mix up every now and then. If all TFs were hurty and scary it might get a tad bland. 'Sides, like some here have said, a pleasurable TF would fit in well with bunny, maybe.

But, we're starting to wandering into TF theory and preferences here.

[Drachen]

This is actually an interesting derailment. I'm mostly into farm/domestic animal TFs, and for me pain never enters into the fantasy. Hell, I'd find pain a big turn-off. There's literally no commonality between my interest and Cursebearer's. It's a wonder that we're looking for fetish material in the same forum. I'm guessing where one of my formative experiences was Pinocchio, Cursebearer's and TF-Viewer's was something like AWiL.

[Drachen]

Originally Posted by Craper

If all TFs were hurty and scary it might get a tad bland.

I don't think it's a matter of variety.

[Craper]

Originally Posted by Drachen

I don't think it's a matter of variety.

I merely direct you now, to the second statement in that very same post.

[TF-Viewer]

Originally Posted by Drachen

This is actually an interesting derailment. I'm mostly into farm/domestic animal TFs, and for me pain never enters into the fantasy. Hell, I'd find pain a big turn-off. There's literally no commonality between my interest and Cursebearer's. It's a wonder that we're looking for fetish material in the same forum. I'm guessing where one of my formative experiences was Pinocchio, Cursebearer's and TF-Viewer's was something like AWiL.

Which version of Pinocchio? The one I recall as a child wasn't a happy scene, in fact some consider it nightmare fuel and one of the most terrifying things in animation. That scene was full of fear and horror. Maybe you mean a different one.

[Drachen]

Originally Posted by TF-Viewer

Which version of Pinocchio? The one I recall as a child wasn't a happy scene, in fact some consider it nightmare fuel and one of the most terrifying things in animation. That scene was full of fear and horror. Maybe you mean a different one.

The key word I used was pain, which is absent. You say fear and horror but the key for me was humiliation. I guess that's a sliver of commonality then. Was I right about your formative source material?