Donkey TF Clip at Taylor's (not yet released)

[TF-Viewer]

Originally Posted by Drachen

The key word I used was pain, which is absent. You say fear and horror but the key for me was humiliation. I guess that's a sliver of commonality then. Was I right about your formative source material?

*shrug*

I saw a lot of transformation scenes when I was a kid. Disney stuff, TMNT, Batman the Animated series. Some things that I saw clearly drew inspiration from earlier works so there's no telling where I picked up the interest. I originally used to think AWiL's transformation scene was scary, but now I'd like to see it redone with a woman in that role and I think it'd be hot that way.

[sodacat]

I obviously wasn't keeping records at the time, but I think my "formative history" involved 80s monster movies. To that end pain, pleasure, fear, horror, and humiliation are all elements, but none of them have any inherent value over the others, or at all, as far as I am concerned. To that end I don't understand TF-V's constant complaints about the lack of agony. A transformation can be painful or pleasurable, or both, but no combination of reactions is inherently wrong.

[Anahki]

Originally Posted by TF-Viewer

*shrug*

I saw a lot of transformation scenes when I was a kid. Disney stuff, TMNT, Batman the Animated series. Some things that I saw clearly drew inspiration from earlier works so there's no telling where I picked up the interest. I originally used to think AWiL's transformation scene was scary, but now I'd like to see it redone with a woman in that role and I think it'd be hot that way.

Hey, you forget Gargoyles... some of the nicest female TFs in the history of non-adult cartoons . And yes, Female AWIL right now!!!!!

[TF-Viewer]

Originally Posted by sodacat

I obviously wasn't keeping records at the time, but I think my "formative history" involved 80s monster movies. To that end pain, pleasure, fear, horror, and humiliation are all elements, but none of them have any inherent value over the others, or at all, as far as I am concerned. To that end I don't understand TF-V's constant complaints about the lack of agony. A transformation can be painful or pleasurable, or both, but no combination of reactions is inherently wrong.

It's called preference, and my complaints are hardly constant. Bringing it up a few times =/= constant. Also, I'm trying to recall any TF outside our community here that was pleasurable, something from a movie or a TV show or comic where the transformation wasn't either painful or neutral. Maybe that's why my preference is for painful TFs, because I didn't see any pleasurable ones while growing up. I'm not entirely opposed to pleasurable TFs, I just don't want to see one in the next video.. or any of them for that matter, I don't think it would look good on film.

[The_Nameless_One]

Wouldn't the fact that pleasurable transformations are absurdly rare make it more worthwhile to do such a video. If done well, it could show that not all tf's need to be painful or neutral to those who were originally opposed. (and even if that were to fail, you'd still get the people who do like pleasurable tf's). I think the divison between pleasurable, painful and neutral tf's should be more evened out anyway.

[Katsumend]

Of course the ultimate is humiliating and maybe slightly painful, but arousing at the same time. Plus aren't most porn stars better at acting aroused than afraid anyway?

[Peanutt_Buta]

I'm more into unwanted changes than wanted. However, I like the Nameless_One's point. There seems to be a rare amount of willing tfs. I wouldn't mind the Bunny TF to be a willing TF. Bunnies are cute and fluffy, so it's possible someone might want to experience being or becoming one.

However, I must also admit I'm not that into bunnies so maybe I'm being biased.

[aresx]

i would disagree and say that about 80% of the TF's i see nowadays are all willing.

[Craper]

Originally Posted by aresx

i would disagree and say that about 80% of the TF's i see nowadays are all willing.

Dunno where the hell you are looking. Most I've seen are un, but it's normally been a good mix all around.

[Rei-Lin]

Hmm I have to say I like just about any transformation of woman into "animal" regardless of what her state of mind is at the time. Willing, not willing, fighting, not fighting, pain or no pain, it's all good in my eyes, as long as the transformation is good of course. When we think painful I think American Werewolf stands out of course. But if you look at other films, like The Howling, that transformation looked painful, but the guy was changing on his own, and didn't seem as though he was in any sort of pain. Then you have the quicky from Monster Squad that had the guy screaming through the entire thing. Then you have a transformation like Cat People where it looked somewhat uncomfortable, but she wasn't really screaming out either, but sort of breathing hard throughout the scene. So in a lot of ways, there's only a handful of live action movies where the transformation was really meant as a "holy shit I'm turning into.......ARGHHHHhhhh" type of transformation. The ones lately I can think of were in Being Human and a few of the foreign films posted on Dutch Bull's site.

I just hope any transformation stuff comes out at all, though I sometimes like those "arousal" types like we see from so many of transformation comic sequences like those from Black-Rat, Loco or Mamabliss for instance. I guess we'll have to wait and see!

[aresx]

just an update.
cat TF booked for shooting

[TF-Viewer]

Originally Posted by aresx

just an update.
cat TF booked for shooting

sweet