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Unread 06-26-2018   #13
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Unread 06-27-2018   #14
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If this comic has no diapers or something like this, this slowly shrinking comic looks like something I would enjoy reading.
Judging from the drawings, it looks awesome!

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Unread 06-27-2018   #15
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If this comic has no diapers or something like this, this slowly shrinking comic looks like something I would enjoy reading.
Judging from the drawings, it looks awesome!

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So, since there's a few who would consider getting it, and question what it contains, I will implement a content icon system. So, if a content has Diapers, it would say that under the MerComix/Adults Only logo.

Anyways, for those who did pre-order the Special Edition, I am delaying the bonus artwork, since the artist won't finish those on time. You will be notified when those art pieces are uploaded and ready.

Sorry for the inconvenience.
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Unread 06-27-2018   #16
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You are the only one who seeks pre-orders of a fetish based comic in which may not come to intuition. I get it for major companies that have the power and resources like WoW or Assassin's Creed, but this is just a single comic. I do not understand why you would want a pre-order unless you cannot afford to fund it yourself. Then I would consider renaming this to crowdfunding.
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Unread 06-27-2018   #17
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You are the only one who seeks pre-orders of a fetish based comic in which may not come to intuition. I get it for major companies that have the power and resources like WoW or Assassin's Creed, but this is just a single comic. I do not understand why you would want a pre-order unless you cannot afford to fund it yourself. Then I would consider renaming this to crowdfunding.
With Gumroad, all pre-orders won't be charged until the product is released, as stated here: https://help.gumroad.com/11163-produ...t-card-charges

The purpose of a pre-order is a double-edged sword, to be honest. Some may take that chance and not have to worry until it's out, while others don't use it and wait until release day to get it.

I get that some say put up the pre-order, while others say don't, like you. I can't go both ways, can't I? *sigh* Right now, half of the funds from previous comics sold are used to make the comic, while the other half is from my own, since I have a part-time job.

Another reason is that if it were a crowdfunded comic, it would possibly get shut down by Square Enix. Just look at what happened when fans tried to crowdfund a Final Fantasy VII web series back in 2013: https://www.gamespot.com/articles/sq.../1100-6412449/

Notice that Square Enix may regret that decision, but the damage was already done and the project was dead, a month later: https://joezieja.com/2013/09/19/the-...he-web-series/

In short, crowdfunding has it's faults that I cannot risk, just for a comic.
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Unread 06-30-2018   #18
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I'm excited to see this comic .. but I haven't preordered a comic before. Is there a current amount raised number and a goal number ?



I see a few other comics there... are they finished ? and which ones would have the most process and slow shrinking.. I'll pick them up to help you out

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Unread 06-30-2018   #19
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I'm excited to see this comic .. but I haven't preordered a comic before. Is there a current amount raised number and a goal number ?
The page isn't a crowdfunded, so you can pre-order it, and it'll be charged and you'll get a copy once it's released.

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I see a few other comics there... are they finished ? and which ones would have the most process and slow shrinking.. I'll pick them up to help you out
All other comics are finished works. Senshi Dolls 1 & 2 have the most process and slow shrinking.
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The idea of something like a "season pass" for a fetish comic is perhaps the most insane pay comic concept I've heard for in the near 12 years I've been on this forum.

It's hard for me to also get excited for pay comics involving characters you don't own the copyright of.

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Unread 07-04-2018   #21
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The idea of something like a "season pass" for a fetish comic is perhaps the most insane pay comic concept I've heard for in the near 12 years I've been on this forum.
Insane? Or genius?

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It's hard for me to also get excited for pay comics involving characters you don't own the copyright of.
Jeez, if you're concerned about that, ask J Yubari on his Growth Materia comics, when it first came out.
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The idea of something like a "season pass" for a fetish comic is perhaps the most insane pay comic concept I've heard for in the near 12 years I've been on this forum.

It's hard for me to also get excited for pay comics involving characters you don't own the copyright of.
Fully agree on the former, it's like the only marketing strategy Mercomix uses are ones handed down from mainstream large-scale crowd-funding and video games that do this to bypass traditional financing barriers or build hype. These and other tactics from Mercomix are totally mismatched to the audience.

You have to have a brand people trust too. Mercomix has a lack of self-awareness about how much trust was lost and how their brand has been poisoned from the Sailor Moon series of comics; the creator made core elements out of their personal, hyper-niche kinks (diapers, scat) and exacting fantasy of shrinking characters from a notable 1980s manga/anime property and babying these characters rather than sticking to size differences and the interesting dynamics that can play out there when you aren't preoccupied with infantilizing. Something very rigid about their obsession. To their credit, at least Mercomix is not obsessed with something like Ranma.

Need to push back a little on the latter. Fair use allows the sale of those images. What pornographers don't do is slap a label on their product implying it is a branded product endorsed by the property owners, which Mercomix initially did.

Also, most people have moved on to more contemporary properties and characters like Overwatch or other video games for Western audiences and more recent anime characters (stopped paying attention years ago to what the zeitgeist is) or generic anime girls in Asian garb rendered in an Eastern art style for the rest. They stay on top of what's new. Sailor Moon has been dead near-on a decade.

I plan to buy the first comic based on the shrinking process alone; any excitement I might have is purely benefit of the doubt, but there is an element that is thankful that it isn't Yet Another Sailor Moon Comic (#YASMC). The recent preview showing hints of the shrinking cemented that decision, though I won't preorder. I will absolutely not get Chapter II or any subsequent chapter, but I could see myself commissioning the artist.

So, here's some constructive criticism, because I know Mercomix isn't going to stop: I would drop the preorder gimmicks and just release the damn comic when its done. If you release quality products, people will buy it and you don't have to work so hard to convince us with the money that what you have to offer is worth what you're charging. If you want to let people know ahead of time, fine, but months in advance isn't the way to go. A week tops. You aren't a pay site who has to cultivate a sense of the subscription website as a going concern and worry about subscriber retention.

Focus on the fundamentals and leave the advanced tactics to the experts who are trying to capture sales from demographics on gigantic marketing platforms that have more than a couple hundred people in it.

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Unread 07-04-2018   #23
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Insane? Or genius?
How about a "Thank you for the feedback" and don't be so damn cocky. Your sales are tied up in your brand, and as far as most are concerned, you are your brand. Do you want me, the person purchasing your products, to be more encouraged to buy from you, or pirate you?
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Fully agree on the former, it's like the only marketing strategy Mercomix uses are ones handed down from mainstream large-scale crowd-funding and video games that do this to bypass traditional financing barriers or build hype. These and other tactics from Mercomix are totally mismatched to the audience.

You have to have a brand people trust too. Mercomix has a lack of self-awareness about how much trust was lost and how their brand has been poisoned from the Sailor Moon series of comics; the creator made core elements out of their personal, hyper-niche kinks (diapers, scat) and exacting fantasy of shrinking characters from a notable 1980s manga/anime property and babying these characters rather than sticking to size differences and the interesting dynamics that can play out there when you aren't preoccupied with infantilizing. Something very rigid about their obsession. To their credit, at least Mercomix is not obsessed with something like Ranma.

Need to push back a little on the latter. Fair use allows the sale of those images.
And, I'm getting those kinks out of the way, so later issues will be more serious and story driven. Or, just remove those hyper-niche kinks for the early issues in a redo (with the artist who did issue 6), up to issue 6, then maybe it'll have a different outcome and sales. But, the former gives some people that you don't want it to be boring, so you need to have a fine line between ones that don't want the sexual content and the ones that do. And that's difficult, these days.

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What pornographers don't do is slap a label on their product implying it is a branded product endorsed by the property owners, which Mercomix initially did.
There's stuff I still need to learn, and slap branding products is one of them. You make a good point on that, and I should remove any instance of such before release. I did say that I'm trying to remove the instance of such in my DA post. So...yeah.

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Also, most people have moved on to more contemporary properties and characters like Overwatch or other video games for Western audiences and more recent anime characters (stopped paying attention years ago to what the zeitgeist is) or generic anime girls in Asian garb rendered in an Eastern art style for the rest. They stay on top of what's new. Sailor Moon has been dead near-on a decade.
There's still a Sailor Moon fanbase today. They didn't "die" at any point, just like other anime. I'm one of those die-hard fans, who knows the characters and stories. I wrote over 30 issues of this (true story), while editing some later on, before the artist goes and makes it. There's much more story to it that you want to explore as many possibilities as you can with it. That's why I'm taking advantage of the many possibilities with my adult comic series.

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I plan to buy the first comic based on the shrinking process alone; any excitement I might have is purely benefit of the doubt, but there is an element that is thankful that it isn't Yet Another Sailor Moon Comic (#YASMC). The recent preview showing hints of the shrinking cemented that decision, though I won't preorder. I will absolutely not get Chapter II or any subsequent chapter, but I could see myself commissioning the artist.
Appreciate your input and interest.

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So, here's some constructive criticism, because I know Mercomix isn't going to stop: I would drop the preorder gimmicks and just release the damn comic when its done. If you release quality products, people will buy it and you don't have to work so hard to convince us with the money that what you have to offer is worth what you're charging. If you want to let people know ahead of time, fine, but months in advance isn't the way to go. A week tops. You aren't a pay site who has to cultivate a sense of the subscription website as a going concern and worry about subscriber retention.

Focus on the fundamentals and leave the advanced tactics to the experts who are trying to capture sales from demographics on gigantic marketing platforms that have more than a couple hundred people in it.
I'm glad someone gave some advice that I've wanted to hear. After hearing about that, you're right. I tried the "pre-order" idea, and a handful came forward to put their money down on it. So, going forward after this release...I'll alter the pre-order idea toward your suggestion of a week before it's out.

Someone told me to bring the pre-order idea back, after I stopped doing that before. I did take that advice for months, before I posted this product here, with the slow-shrinking part that you guys wanted. I never thought it would get much criticism about it, much more about my works. But, after what you said today, it makes much more sense than I imagined. Other fetish comic places never did pre-orders of their comics. So, maybe it's for the best to alter it to see if that works better for many.

Thank you, ShrinkingOne.
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