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Unread 04-11-2017   #25
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TF at the end of the movie is blonde

Jesus Christ, I thought I was being absurd when I put that it my list, I didn't think it was an actual issue for people.
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Re: “Bonehill Road” werewolf film

It's pretty telling that people in these threads will get down on others for complaining about very specific details not meeting their tastes, and then will on the other hand be so concerned about something like hair color that they go out of their way to email the director about it.
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I was going to let this go, but since I’m being tag teamed here, I think I deserve a chance to defend myself. While I can understand my last comment as coming across as hypocritical, I see a clear distinction between a person finding a worthwhile TF project and going out of his way to alert this board about it, only to be met with cynicism and scorn, and a person who’s producing said project having an influence on the creative decisions of the film. It’s not like I threw 20 bucks at this thing. I spent a LOT; therefore, as one of the producers, I have more say on what happens in the project. That’s simply how producing works, not to mention the fact that, based on my years of experience on this forum, most people here DO prefer brunette werewolves to blonde ones, just like most people don’t like skin ripping. (Again, “Bonehill Road” won’t have any skin ripping.) I’m sure people will bash this comment as well, but don’t bother. I’m done. Once again, I have to quote good ol’ Cartman: “Screw you, guys. I’m going home.”
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Unread 04-12-2017   #28
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Doesn't bother me what she looks like. I only want a woman transforming. Sure I have preferences (feet into paws & face extending) but I'm pretty easy just desire a quality change
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Same, I'm cool with brunette or blonde.
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I was going to let this go, but since I’m being tag teamed here, I think I deserve a chance to defend myself. While I can understand my last comment as coming across as hypocritical, I see a clear distinction between a person finding a worthwhile TF project and going out of his way to alert this board about it, only to be met with cynicism and scorn, and a person who’s producing said project having an influence on the creative decisions of the film. It’s not like I threw 20 bucks at this thing. I spent a LOT; therefore, as one of the producers, I have more say on what happens in the project. That’s simply how producing works, not to mention the fact that, based on my years of experience on this forum, most people here DO prefer brunette werewolves to blonde ones, just like most people don’t like skin ripping. (Again, “Bonehill Road” won’t have any skin ripping.) I’m sure people will bash this comment as well, but don’t bother. I’m done. Once again, I have to quote good ol’ Cartman: “Screw you, guys. I’m going home.”
Hehehe. What you really wanted to is another Marsha, ein?
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I was going to let this go, but since I’m being tag teamed here, I think I deserve a chance to defend myself. While I can understand my last comment as coming across as hypocritical, I see a clear distinction between a person finding a worthwhile TF project and going out of his way to alert this board about it, only to be met with cynicism and scorn, and a person who’s producing said project having an influence on the creative decisions of the film. It’s not like I threw 20 bucks at this thing. I spent a LOT; therefore, as one of the producers, I have more say on what happens in the project. That’s simply how producing works, not to mention the fact that, based on my years of experience on this forum, most people here DO prefer brunette werewolves to blonde ones, just like most people don’t like skin ripping. (Again, “Bonehill Road” won’t have any skin ripping.) I’m sure people will bash this comment as well, but don’t bother. I’m done. Once again, I have to quote good ol’ Cartman: “Screw you, guys. I’m going home.”
The thing is, your comment was totally hypocritical. Just because you have enough money to actually take action when the project doesn't meet your specific fetishistic taste doesn't change the fact that you rag on people for having particular things they want from a TF and then turn around and do the very same thing. Nobody was scorning you for bringing this to our attention, people were taking a critical look at the PROJECT ITSELF through the lens of their own interests. This is a fetish board, and it's something that should be expected. People are here to find things they like, after all. You took that personally for some reason, and then turned around and did the very thing that you were yourself criticizing. That's why you got a negative response.

Good on you for bringing this stuff to our attention, good on you for funding niche projects like this, not good on you for being down on other people who are just looking for the same thing you are. Everyone is interested in different things and everyone in this thread is hoping to get something out of this TF, and that's fine.
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The thing is, your comment was totally hypocritical. Just because you have enough money to actually take action when the project doesn't meet your specific fetishistic taste doesn't change the fact that you rag on people for having particular things they want from a TF and then turn around and do the very same thing.
Okay, so I lied about leaving this thread, if only because the so-called “tag team” became a free-for-all. First of all, I wasn’t “ragging” on people because of their individualized tastes. (I obviously have my specific tastes as well.) I was, however, annoyed at people for complaining about my posts about this project because they didn’t like it. There have literally been hundreds of threads on this forum that I wasn’t interested in, but I didn’t feel the need to go out of my way to state it. For example, right now there is a thread about this board coming together to make its own TF movie, which I thought was a great idea and was completely willing to contribute to, but then I found out that the animal chosen for the TF was a cow or another type of barnyard animal. I’m not interested in barnyard animal TFs in the SLIGHTEST, but did I post, “Ugh, not my thing! Pass!” No. I kept my mouth shut. That’s what I was complaining about before: all the people bitching about this project because they didn’t like it, not because of their individualized tastes.

Secondly, if I thought I was being hypocritical, would I post the announcement about the updated werewolf hair color in that controversial post? Again, I’ve been a board member here for a long time, and I’ve never once seen someone say they’d rather see a blonde werewolf than a brunette one. I’m not saying these people don’t exist; I’m saying it’s usually the other way around. The general consensus here (especially since my last post) is that people don’t care either way, and that’s fine, but I still stand by my statement that after that group of people who don’t care, there is a larger majority of people who prefer brunette werewolves to blonde ones. Because of that reason—and yes, because of my individualized tastes—I persuaded the director to change the hair color. And btw, he ended up agreeing with me that it would be more visually exciting to see dark hair sprawl across a body instead of light, blonde ones that will be difficult to pick up on camera. Stupid me, I thought people were going to thank me for making the switch, much like some people were appreciative that I had the director of “Betsy” add back the nudity to his TF scene at my expense, but obviously, I was wrong.

I’m not going to be so overdramatic again to say I’m going to leave this thread completely, but really, I don’t see myself posting any more updates about this movie for the few people who are still interested in it. Go ahead and have the last word.
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Thank you for not bashing my thread. For the record, if you had said, even politely, that you prefer werewolves, I would have politely rejected your request because there are many more wolves then barnyard animals out there. Never enough of either, but definitely more wolves.

The keyword here is polite. For some reason, people (men?) on Process have trouble expressing their opinion without coming off as aggressive or rude. At first, I thought it was a little nit-picky to be requesting a blonde werewolf too, but now that I've thought about it, it makes sense. It isn't that you don't like blondes, it's that you want to see the fur move across the body and someone changing into a wolf that matches the blonde hair on their head wouldn't look wolf-y.

That makes sense. What doesn't make sense are all these constant fights. People *way more skilled then me* want to make movies for this community because they know we are a hungry demographic that has some overlap with people who like monsters, special effects, etc. In other words, money can be made. If we show some kind of community effort, someone will step up to make the movie, but as it stands, no film-maker or porn star wants to deal with Process people because we fight so damn much.

So everyone-- watch your tone, use your empathy, save your pennies and maybe good things will happen. My suggestion is creating a brain storm thread for werewolves kinda like the barnyard movie thread. Collectively, all you canine fans should try to get at the heart of what unites you so that when a person making a movie comes along, they have an easy way to see what we want. Chances are, they won't understand why tail growth is the holy grail, for example, and instead just see a difficult effect that can be skipped to save money and time. However, if more people will fund them because they have a tail growth, that might change their mind, the same way a creator can be coaxed into dark fur based on the opinion of a generous patron.

When you make that thread, I suggest making two *reserved* posts after the intro so you have space at the beginning to list all your collective ideas. We need to be funding things as a community and not as individuals.
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Thank you for not bashing my thread. For the record, if you had said, even politely, that you prefer werewolves, I would have politely rejected your request because there are many more wolves then barnyard animals out there. Never enough of either, but definitely more wolves.

The keyword here is polite. For some reason, people (men?) on Process have trouble expressing their opinion without coming off as aggressive or rude. At first, I thought it was a little nit-picky to be requesting a brunette werewolf too, but now that I've thought about it, it makes sense. It isn't that you don't like blondes, it's that you want to see the fur move across the body and someone changing into a wolf that matches the blonde hair on their head wouldn't look wolf-y.

That makes sense. What doesn't make sense are all these constant fights. People *way more skilled then me* want to make movies for this community because they know we are a hungry demographic that has some overlap with people who like monsters, special effects, etc. In other words, money can be made. If we show some kind of community effort, someone will step up to make the movie, but as it stands, no film-maker or porn star wants to deal with Process people because we fight so damn much.

So everyone-- watch your tone, use your empathy, save your pennies and maybe good things will happen. My suggestion is creating a brain storm thread for werewolves kinda like the barnyard movie thread. Collectively, all you canine fans should try to get at the heart of what unites you so that when a person making a movie comes along, they have an easy way to see what we want. Chances are, they won't understand why tail growth is the holy grail, for example, and instead just see a difficult effect that can be skipped to save money and time. However, if more people will fund them because they have a tail growth, that might change their mind, the same way a creator can be coaxed into dark fur based on the opinion of a generous patron.

When you make that thread, I suggest making two *reserved* posts after the intro so you have space at the beginning to list all your collective ideas. We need to be funding things as a community and not as individuals.
Well said. Thanks.
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Thank you for not bashing my thread. For the record, if you had said, even politely, that you prefer werewolves, I would have politely rejected your request because there are many more wolves then barnyard animals out there. Never enough of either, but definitely more wolves.

The keyword here is polite. For some reason, people (men?) on Process have trouble expressing their opinion without coming off as aggressive or rude. At first, I thought it was a little nit-picky to be requesting a blonde werewolf too, but now that I've thought about it, it makes sense. It isn't that you don't like blondes, it's that you want to see the fur move across the body and someone changing into a wolf that matches the blonde hair on their head wouldn't look wolf-y.

That makes sense. What doesn't make sense are all these constant fights. People *way more skilled then me* want to make movies for this community because they know we are a hungry demographic that has some overlap with people who like monsters, special effects, etc. In other words, money can be made. If we show some kind of community effort, someone will step up to make the movie, but as it stands, no film-maker or porn star wants to deal with Process people because we fight so damn much.

So everyone-- watch your tone, use your empathy, save your pennies and maybe good things will happen. My suggestion is creating a brain storm thread for werewolves kinda like the barnyard movie thread. Collectively, all you canine fans should try to get at the heart of what unites you so that when a person making a movie comes along, they have an easy way to see what we want. Chances are, they won't understand why tail growth is the holy grail, for example, and instead just see a difficult effect that can be skipped to save money and time. However, if more people will fund them because they have a tail growth, that might change their mind, the same way a creator can be coaxed into dark fur based on the opinion of a generous patron.

When you make that thread, I suggest making two *reserved* posts after the intro so you have space at the beginning to list all your collective ideas. We need to be funding things as a community and not as individuals.
Right. My favourite point is something that some people has told about it before: we can "cheat" on regular werewolf/horror movie sectors so we would sell our ideas: ideas about werewolves with that "fetish TF" inside. Well, in my case precisely I am a fan of both worlds, and I enjoy a good werewolf horror movie even though there were not a good onscreen TF. But you get the idea.

And about the funding for a werewolf movie, I have to say here what I preferered not to say in your thread: it is not going to be done the way "I" really want to. If I wanted to see something different than I want to, I already have the mainstream, full of "imperfect" werewolf TFs. And even worse, my preferences for a good werewolf TF collide with the preferences of other people here. And the last insult: some things I want to see on a werewolf transformation would cost the money that a patreon could not afford. Yes, I am horribly hard to satisfy .

@howlingfan: Oh man. Please, keep us informed, don't be a bad guy . Now I am starving for new info on the movie...
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@howlingfan: Oh man. Please, keep us informed, don't be a bad guy . Now I am starving for new info on the movie...
Okay Anahki, just for you, lol:

Here is the Facebook page of the FX house that will work on the werewolf costumes and animatronic masks:

https://www.facebook.com/gilldesignsolutionsfx/

You can see videos of works-in-progress, including a pretty realistic wolf head with moving lips, brows, jaws, etc. Again, this is probably miles above what anyone on this forum can do, no offense, but I’d love to be proven wrong. Also, I don’t think this is the only FX house working on this movie. I think there’s another one working on the transformation effects. This movie is already shaping up to be miles better than “Betsy” (no skin ripping; a much longer, more involved TF scene; movie-quality animatronic suits; full-body shots; and much more nudity). In fact, the director-writer just sent out an update this morning to investors saying they’re pulling out all the stops for the “show-stopping FEMALE werewolf transformation scene” (emphasis was his), so the hype is real, folks, whether you choose to believe it or not. With two female werewolf TF projects on the boards this year, 2017 is shaping up to be the indie version of 1981 when “The Howling” and “AWIL” were released within months of each other. “Betsy” is set to be released to investors around June, and “Bonehill Road” is set to be released to investors around Halloween. Again, my money is on “Bonehill Road” being the one to beat. So if you're still undecided, please consider contributing, as you'll be the first to see the TF goods when it's released to investors:

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/b...-film-horror#/
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